I am all for gay marriage. I have never been given a solid or even reasonable arguement against it. Most nay-sayers like to go with the same excuses that just do not cut it. It's like when someone tells you you can't do something and when you ask why they say "Because I said so." It's pretty rediculous to me. It's a sign of progress for our country when we get closer to what our country was originally created for: Freedom.

I actually live in the Netherlands, where it is fully accepted. But I don't understand why we shouldn't be able to get married. Cmon, it's the year 2009. It's a right that all people should have no matter what or who they are. If a person can love, then it should be able to get married.

I sometimes forget that people on the internet can be from anywhere in the world. (^_^)

Originally Posted by Dr. Nyx

I sometimes forget that people on the internet can be from anywhere in the world. (^_^)

Lol if that surprises you, it should turn your world upside down when you learn I reside in New Zealand. :lol:

Although as for the topic, no I do not believe the State should allow homosexual marriage. As I see any State involvement in it as an intrusion, which it is already quite guilty of. This should be strictly between the people wishing to get married, not some contract between them and the State. That way if the State steps out, the Church can maintain its religious rights and those who still wish to be married still do so anyway.

Not sure if this was brought up in other posts,
but the church DOES NOT issue a marriage.
Sure, they help with the icing on the cake,
though its really the state who makes it legal,
you can just go up to the court house, sign a paper and be married
and shizam, you didn't even have to order the cake.

Church and state are SUPPOSED to be separated, but I guess that is false advertising.

I personally have nothing against gays getting married. I have gay friends and the like, and that is fine for me. I don't judge them, although I don't neccesarily approve of their lifestyles. My religion doesn't allow homosexuality (or more specifically homosexual acts) so I can't really say it's ok, but it's not a big deal to me.

I think it should be a choice as to whether gays get married or not. What I mean but that is that the church that marries them gets to have a say in whether or not they marry that couple. That way if gay marraige is against that religion they don't have to marry that couple and the couple will just move to a different church.

A lot of people, including my father but not me, beleive that homosexuals should be able to get "married" except they want it to be called civil union because apparently the god they beleive in only wants a man and a woman to get married. I think that the god they beleive in would love you no matter what sexuality you are. So i think he or she would not care if two men, two women or a man and a woman get married. I think that homosexuals should be able to get married if they want. If two or three or even four people love eachother enough to get married that they should have that option. Of course this country has freedom of speecha and everyone has their own veiws. These are mine.

It is true that marriage is done by the state. Which iis where the term "legally married" comes from. The only part that really has to do with the church is the ceremony and whatever significance the pastor/rabbi/etc.'s words have to the individuals themselves. There are some churches who host weddings for homosexuals and some who don't. It is up to the individuals and thechurch itself. I don't really see a need to change the way it is.

If your specific church interperates your book as gay people should not marry, they don't have to marry them. I wouldn't imagine gay people would attend a church that is against homosexuals. The bible/torah/etc. in and of itself is full of really terrible prejudices and discrimination. Most people who read them choose which they think is important. If people didn't do that, mothers would be getting killed for not circumsizing their boys, we would kill people for infedelity, we would stone animals to death if they hurt us, and so on. And there is also the millions of interperatations of the verses. No one group can really complain that they are right above everyone else and try to impede on other other churches.

In short, people are trying to fix something that's not broken. Leave it up to the churches whether or not they want to have the ceremony. The rest is fairly simple, the state shouldn't ban gay marriage because it would be discrimination and therefor infer that homosexuals are not equal. Which is against the constitution.

By the way, all this pretty much only apples to the USA, lol. I don't know anything about other governments.

Originally Posted by YourToxicButterfly

I'm not a fan of marriage in general. But the government is, so if you are going to be together for years (and hopefully til death) and taxes would be easier, then yes, marry. Regardless of sexuality. You should be allowed to have a legally binding piece of paper to the other.

yeah, thats pretty much exactly how i view it (give or take a few words)

I just wanted to point not, gay marriage is legal in four out of the fifty states. The only two I can remember at the moment, are Iowa(yay!) and Idaho!
I support it, mostly because I am lez, I don't really care what people think of me, they think what they want, I'll do what I want, simple solution!:angel:

I personally have to agree with the idea of separation between church and state. Marriage technically is a religious ceremony. What I want to push for are the legalities. I think your partner should have the same benefits (insurance, power of attorney, etc) that heterosexual couples have. I also think they should be given full and legal custody of children, just like heterosexual couples do.
I think the point of contention comes from people who were homosexual but still subscribing to specific faiths and wanted their union to be recognized in the way that faith would to a heterosexual couple, but couldn't because that faith didn't recognize homosexual relationships.
So, allowing homosexual couples the right to all the same constitutional, legal, and financial benefits as heterosexual couples? = YES!
Allowing homosexual couples the right to have a religious union of whatever faith they choose even if that faith does not allow it? = Not my bag, you guys argue that one amongst yourselves!

I think gays should be allowed to marry... theres no problem with it. All they have to do is adopt, and they can have a family. I just want to know why some people think its ok for gays to date, but they dont like it when they marry.... ?

from phillipines here..as a religious society (as they say) we do not approve this kind of ceremony...cuz or bishop will go omg....lol..but if you ask me hell i care..if this would make a person happy then it go!!!..i aint gay !!..and i dont hate homo , gay, bi peoples..there fun to be with lol..bizaare world huh ^^

Originally Posted by Claudia

Yes and no...Since this gay marriage brings up so much hostility, just call it by another word and everyone's happy. ALL gays really want is equal legal rights/. So grant these same rights to the new word for gay marriage and everyone's happy.
As much as I realize gay people suffer from unfair marriage laws, I am also tired of gay marriage being a key issue that drowns out other issues.

So we should make up this new word that basically means marriage so gays and everyone is happy.
I personally would not care the least if we used the same word, since I feel this stupid fighting will go on and on, this is a good solution so we can get it done and move on other more pressing matters.

I think that would just DIVIDE the country even more. If we really wanted to respect everybody, then we'd get rid of the word marriage all together and call every marriage a union because each marriage is a union between two people who love each other enough to spend the rest of their lives together...or until they get a divorce that is.

I say yes on gay Marriage.
Well, on good reason being that I am myself.
I would absolutely love to marry my lover one day.
I'm only human as well, just like everyone else.

I'm all for equality. If I am not allowed to marry a woman, I shouldn't be allowed to marry a man, either. I've half joked about starting a "ban straight marriage" campaign, actually. I'm not much of a fan of marriage in general, but that may just be because I'm a bitter bitch who suffered a horrible marriage to an abusive man (not saying all men are abusive, just that the one I married was).

I don't really understand the arguments against same-sex marriage, though. The church doesn't approve? Good thing marriages aren't church institutions anymore! You think people who get a same-sex marriage is going to hell? Then don't get one! It's all so obvious to me, but I guess others who are brought up with a different mind-set can't see it as well.

Yes, why not?
If they want to be married, why not give them the chance to do so?
It wont hurt anybody O.o

Actually here in Denmark we had something called 'Gay Pride' where homosexual people travel from all over Europe to here to make OL activities. And there people arranged a day of gay and homosexual marriage. I really like that ^^

I'm all for Gay Marriage.
I think it's really not a big deal. Gay people may like different things than straight people, but they are still people!
I know many people who oppose to gay marriage due to religious reasons; they say being gay is a sin,
and all the gay people will go to Hell and be punished by God. In the Bible, it says God loves all his children the same, so why is he going to torture his children if He loves them? Also, I don't see why people get their panties in a bunch about gay marriage and rights; they're not hurting you, or anyone else...they just want to be recognized as people and not freaks, or sinners, or abominations to God.

{Also, I find it to be very funny that when Bush was in office, and we were in the midst of a war, he was more worried about gays getting married than he was about the soldiers getting killed...}

I am 100% for same sex marriage.

I'm not gay or bi but I do think that gay marriage should be allowed. I understand that there are people who don't agree with it and each person is entitled to their opinion but I don't think they should make such a huge deal out of gay marriage. It's not like by allowing gay marriage they're trying to force everyone to be gay. All those people who complain about it shouldn't complain because no one is telling them to be gay or to marry someone of the same gender, the marriage of a gay couple isn't affecting or interefering with their lives. Therefore gay marriag has nothing to do with them and should be left to the decisions of all who are gay/bi.

I say go for it. Who the heck are we to tell gays no? I mean, they eat, sleep, breath, and bleed like everyone else right? I don't get why people are so against it. I have some really good gay friends and I love them to itty bitty bits. :)

My opinion on anything that has to do with gay, Bi & strait people:

Does it matter what reproductive parts you have the rest is the same eather way?!?!

Everyone has the right to be married. Gays deserve the same rights as hetrosexual couples. They are the same as everyone else. I never can understand why people have a problem with someone just because they are different than they are. I am no where near being racist in any way. I got pissed off because morons on tv said whites will look at that poor Harvard professor who got arrested for trying to break into HIS own home. I got pissed when I heard that happened. But of course I am not like alot of people out tehre. Who have automatic judgements on others. I accept everyone for who they are and what they are. No matter what. I only wished others did the same.
But at least gay couples this month in Wisconsin got the right to sign up for benifits that a hetro couple can get. Now to get the marriage law passed then they are set :D

They´re searching for equality.
While certain religious groups are against it, some us are For it.

My dad is Gay, so im For it. I dont see why they´re still being treated as some sort of weird specimen. Im atheist, so I dont see the point of marriage.
People are too ignorant and obsessive over the case of Gay marriage.
So what if they get married? And what If they decide to raise a child? People generally assume that if a Gay couple were to raise a child, then the child is most likely to be brainwashed or to turn out Gay.
Its all bull, my dad has been raising my younger sister and she´s not lesbian, she hasnt been ¨Brainwashed¨as theyre often accused.

It is wrong, but completely wrong to deny them this.
If people are so strongly opiniated or against Gay marriage, what do they care for?
Theyre not the ones sharing a lover of the same sex. People should mind their own lifes. Who are they to determine and state how others should lead their lifes or what they can or cant do. Who are they to deny other´s their wish?

Gay, bi or straight we all were born the same way: naked! lol...
Marriage is not about status anymore... it's not about "reproduce" anymore... it's about love, and happiness. Does someone of teh same sex makes you happy? GREAT! Trust me, it's REALLY better someone be with someone of the same sex and be happy, than be with someone of the other sex just to show everyone and be unhappy.
Life is toooo short to be wasted trying to prove something for the world, so be happy! I say yes to gay marrige! Yaaar!!!