View Poll Results: Being a homosexual
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#151
Old 10-14-2009, 02:48 AM

My views towards homosexuality, as well as any other way of being (religion, sexuality, etc), is that as long as you're harming no one and that it's your choice, I don't care. You can do or be whatever you want, and I wish you the best in it.

I do have a few concerns regarding the homosexual community, the main one being how in the Gay Pride parade, represenatives from NAMBLA were allowed. Now, I do not believe that the majority of homosexual people condone the National Association for Man Boy Love any more than most heterosexuals do, but having this organization associated with them, even remotely, does not help their image with people. Therefore, homosexuals should speak out about it.

As for gay marriage, the way I see it is that marriage is about two adult, willing people in love, and the government has no business getting involved in one way or another with matters of love.

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#152
Old 10-15-2009, 01:28 AM

I support gay marriage. I support homosexuals. I don't think anyone is born with an orientation. We get sexual attraction from our hormones when we hit puberty. Homosexuals are not wrong, there is noting mentally wrong with them.

Also, I am not religious, therefore I do not think being gay is a sin. LOVE is LOVE no matter what. And in case you are thinking I am gay because of my views. I am not. I am just very open-minded.

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#153
Old 10-15-2009, 01:48 AM

I support homosexuality and marriage equality. Why? Because they are still human beings. At the end of the day, they still breath the same air we do. They still have a heart. They are still people. Who are we to judge them? Because they don't make the same choices as other people. I guess. But that's their life, and they should be allowed to live it.
If everyone in the world were homosexuals, how would you feel if you were straight then? If you couldn't marry? It's terrible.

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#154
Old 10-15-2009, 02:33 AM

Love is love.

I believe most are born gay but it sometimes depends on what happens to the person when they are younger; if they go through anything.

It's whatever. Some say its a choice, some say you can't choose to be that way.

I say it's whatever.

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#155
Old 10-15-2009, 02:35 AM

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Love is love.
I agree with this.

I'm a hopeless romantic, so this hits home for me.

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#156
Old 10-15-2009, 02:37 AM

You can't deny the heart of what it truly wants.

As much as following my heart has gotten me into trouble I still follow it.

I'm currently at the point where I want to rip it out because it's pissing me off right now. :P

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#157
Old 10-15-2009, 02:45 AM

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You can't deny the heart of what it truly wants.

As much as following my heart has gotten me into trouble I still follow it.

I'm currently at the point where I want to rip it out because it's pissing me off right now. :P
You must be my counterpart on these standings!

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#158
Old 10-22-2009, 01:46 AM

In my opinion homosexuality is a genetic issue, meaning you are either born gay or or are not. I have nothing against homosexuals and even have friends who are gay. I think that the health care system should pay for trans gender surgery for the fact that it is a medical condition sort of like diabetes. Currently it does not.

As for being a sin, I am not one to judge another....I know what I believe...but I am not gonna argue with someone about how God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve...it's old and annoying. No one is ever right with these discussions.

Gay marriage, marriage was constituted under a religious practice...so I can see why people are against it. I think I am gonna stop there =3

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#159
Old 10-22-2009, 02:14 AM

First of all I'll say I'm not a particularly religious person. As the movie Dogma says, I think it's better to have a good idea than a belief. That being said, I don't see how being homosexual can be a sin. It's not a choice, it's what happens sometimes. If God creates everyone how He wants them to be, and He creates some people as homosexuals, how can He punish them for being how He designed them to be? Also, I can't recall the specific sources but I've read studies that prove that nobody is truly straight- in fact, most females are bisexual to some degree. As far as being born that way, I'm not sure on that one. I think you can know fairly early in life who you like, even without thinking sexually. I know in kindergarten I had a crush on a boy which led to a gender crisis for a short time until I figured some things out. As far as marriage, I think it should be up to churches whether or not they'll perform them as it can be a religious commitment, but banning gay marriage completely is about as ethical as saying mixed couples can't marry. Why should gay couples be denied the benefits both emotional and legal of matrimony?

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#160
Old 10-22-2009, 02:26 AM

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First of all I'll say I'm not a particularly religious person. As the movie Dogma says, I think it's better to have a good idea than a belief. That being said, I don't see how being homosexual can be a sin. It's not a choice, it's what happens sometimes. If God creates everyone how He wants them to be, and He creates some people as homosexuals, how can He punish them for being how He designed them to be?
Not to go against you because I support you, but religious folk can argue that the devil tempted these people to be gay and sin.

However I think that is BS.

Also, if God loves all his children, why are homosexuals different?

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#161
Old 10-22-2009, 02:46 AM

@Tsuki: That is a good point, though one could also argue that the devil tempts men to sleep with women and visa versa. In that respect, it's more a temptation towards sex itself, which I could swear in some religious text somewhere states is a sin when a) engaged in before marriage and/or b) used solely for pleasure and not procreation. In a way I suppose that means homosexual sex is a sin, but only because sex in the way most Americans use it is a sin.

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#162
Old 10-22-2009, 02:55 AM

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In a way I suppose that means homosexual sex is a sin, but only because sex in the way most Americans use it is a sin.
You hit the nail on the head. Congradulations.

They would argue that it is a different and only use the Bible when it directly supports them and not contradicts their point.

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#163
Old 10-27-2009, 03:08 AM

I went to Catholic schools for twelve...thirteen if you count Kindergarten, years. My life was spent bombarded with homosexuality is a sin and that sort of thing.

But when I confronted a teacher about it, my Religion teacher, it was a love the Sinner not the Sin thing. SO he said that Christians do not condemn homosexuals, but they condemn the act - the same way they condemn premarital sex.

But what I also learned that being homosexual is not something that would make God love them less or anything like that.

The rules that people have come up with regarding it as Christians are human dictated, based on old words in the Bible.

Hell, if we still followed the Bible, then guess what? Women wouldn't even be allowed in Churches. It's all about progress, I'm sure given another 200 years...

-eyeroll-

Edit: Note, I identify asexual.

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#164
Old 10-27-2009, 04:07 AM

I'm bi but lean more toward men. For me, what gender you are doesn't matter. I personally like to look at the male body more than a womens but if I found a girl that I loved beyond anything else, it would be ok.

I am still living with my parents, one catholic the other christian, and they both agree that being gay isn't right but it isn't because of their religious practices. My mom just doesn't see the point in it. she is against it because it doesn't produce a child and I can't get marry to another man and get the same benefits that a man and woman would in todays government. For her, it is more looking out for me than whether it is wrong or right. My dad was actually more excepting than my mom, which confused me because all my other gay friends have their moms backing them.

I don't know if it is geneticly passed down or not because no one in my family has ever been gay that i know of. This just may be because they never had the chance or something like that or it may be that no one talks about it. I am not allowed to tell my grandma that I'm bi because my mom sees it as a mistake that she made raising me. She tells me constantly that she should have made me go to church so that I could learn it was wrong. She used to tell me it was in the bible that homosexuality was a sin. I always told her that the part that really goes into it (I forget which part it is but it was a town that was destroyed by two angels, she liked to pull that out for me to read) was because they were full of lust for another body, greedy by taking what they wanted with no consequences, gluttonous by over-endulging, and prideful by thinking they were doing something that made them better than others. I don't think it was ever because they were gay.

I think keeping people from getting married is wrong and you can't blame it on religion. There are many countries with religions that don't agree with homosexuality but might still allow it. I know it's ok in england where most of America's religions came from. Spain also allows it as does canada. mexico, belgium and others. All of these have the same religions America does and still allow it. It is more than religion that is preventing it in America. It is just an older generation not being comfortable with the idea and trying to keep it under the rug. I'm twenty two and i haven't found someone in my age group that has a problem with it, even overly religious people who with every breath they take is for God. I think right now gay marriage is a waiting game that we just need patience for.

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#165
Old 10-27-2009, 10:07 PM

alot of people think gay marriage is wrong
what i do not understand is how
some gay supporters are fine with a gay couple
and are fine with how they act
but when gay marraige gets thrown in they think
its wrong and won't allow it

alot of guys i know
like lesbians and think they are hot
but when they here about a guy on guy
they think its dispicible
wtf!!!!


: on a personal account :
i had a guy in one of my classes
hate one of my friends who was gay
saying my friend was gonna hit on him
(i kinda want you opinion on that if you could)




also:
do you think gays are
wrong

or fine with you


and is gay marriage
fine with you
or wrong to you





if you disagree with any of my poll answets
just post what you think if none of them fit you

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#166
Old 10-27-2009, 10:46 PM

Homosexuality is natural and appears in several species other then humans, infact including humans 1500 species engage in homosexual activities. Really makes you wonder, if its a 'sin' and 'god is against it' why is so common in many species?. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosex...ior_in_animals has a pretty accurate list, with documented cases in the zoo and in the wild.

Personally I have nothing against gays until they try to force their views on me, and then its just that one person. :) As far as I'm concerned they have every right to marriage just as much as straight couples.

Fear of being hit on by gays is a common one for homophobes, quite a few of which have actually turned out to be closet gays. He just needs to accept the fact that not all gays walk around actively hitting on people they find attractive.

What really bothers me is the use of 'gross' in your poll, its a biased term and typically used as an opinion. The choices could of and should of been better phrased. IE

Yes, but marriage should be between man and woman.
No, its against my personal views/religion.
Yes, homosexuals should have the right to marriage.

You really didn't need the fourth option as it could of easily been covered in the second :).

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#167
Old 10-27-2009, 11:43 PM

I definatly am all the way for homosexuality/gay marriage etc. It doesn't matter what gender either person is as long as they love each other and want to be together!
In my town, if something is considered to be awful or annoying or generaly bad, people say 'Oh that's so gay' which I think is horrible! For one thing it is completely degrading to homosexuals, but isn't gay supposed to mean happy? Therefore why use it as a profanity?
I also think that every baby is born generally the same, its the way a person is brought up and what or what not they are exposed to that shapes and forms who you are and your individuality.
So no, I definatly do not believe that being gay is a sin in any way, shape or form.

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#168
Old 10-27-2009, 11:53 PM

yeah but almost every person i have met who doesnt like gays think they are gross
but i shall change it
exceot idk if i can change the poll

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#169
Old 10-27-2009, 11:56 PM

Good for you for joining the fight for equality. I don't really care. I think that if that makes someone happy, then who are we to deny that person happiness? If I were into the same sex, I think I would be a little disappointed in society that they could not accept that I liked a girl or whatever. I have had a few gay friends growing up, and I miss them! I must say, gay dudes are the best ever friends to talk to and drink with and everything... I've got a few lesbian chicks and they are crazy kick-ass chicks who can do anything that a guy can do and still look good doing it. More power to them for being who they are. I think anyone should be able to get married to anyone else. As long as people dont start marrying animals, because that's just more than a little weird.

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#170
Old 10-28-2009, 01:06 AM

They are not bad. they are normal people.
They should be allowed to love who they love. They should be allowed to get married.

They are like anyone else.

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#171
Old 10-28-2009, 01:07 AM

Isn't there alreaeady a thread about this?

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#172
Old 10-28-2009, 02:21 PM

That there is Double S. I'll be merging this with the other "Being gay. Is it a sin or not?..." thread.
http://www.menewsha.com/forum/commun...-marriage.html

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#173
Old 10-31-2009, 12:06 PM

k then Im not gay and not religious, Im atheist so let me say this now, people can do whatever the hell they want to do, we're here for a short time and then we're gone, and that sucks, if someone is gay then they should be gay and remain happy for the time they have instead of being unhappy for their time

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#174
Old 11-01-2009, 01:34 AM

Ok, I'm not a Christian, though I used to be, and I am strait, but I do know one thing. God does NOT hate gays. He may not like it, but he loves everyone. I think that some are born that way and some choose. For what ever the reason, there is no problem with it. You are who you are and that's what matters. It doesn't matter who you sleep with and frankly, what does it matter? It doesn't make you any less of a person. A lot of my friends are gay and I love them very much. We're all human, am I right? Oh, and for those of you who says that it doesn't happen in nature, do your research because it does.

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#175
Old 11-01-2009, 06:05 PM

The amount of undereducated posts in this thread is astounding.

To say "I believe homosexuality is genetic" is meaningless and obviously a biased or emotional stance. There is no real evidence to say that homosexuality is genetic, perhaps there is some to say it could be influenced by genes, but so are our personalities as alluded.

To say God loves/hates homosexuals is just as useful as saying Brian Sanders loves/hates homosexuals. Please help us by providing quotes or resources that suggest this without also suggesting that Brian Sanders or God loves/hates children or criminals in the same way.

Lastly to question whether homosexuality is choice or not is incredibly moronic. I don't know anyone that actually chooses who they love of the opposite gender how would this change for the same gender? People tend to discover their fetishes, they don't cognizantly create them. Merely suggesting that choice is an issue in the feelings of these people goes against all common sense and very simple logic. This being said, any interaction that follows as a result of those feelings is purely a product of choice and not involuntary.

 



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