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08-30-2009, 11:57 PM

[That picture is totally not mine, by the way.]
Welcome, everyone!
Here is a table of contents to get everyone prepared:
~ What is Boys Love?
~ What is Girls Love?
~ Slash and Femmeslash
~ Why I Made This Thread
~ Rules
~ Links
~ Thanks and Disclaimers
~ Banners
And if anyone starts the thread with "What is love?" I will be very amused. :)
Last edited by Oscar the Wild; 09-12-2009 at 01:01 PM..
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08-30-2009, 11:58 PM
So, what is Boys Love? Tvtropes defines it as:
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A unique subgenre of romance focusing on male homosexuality. In a typical plot, two boys fall in love (or a Love Triangle, or whatever other romantic plot you can think of), and the story shows their progress as a couple. Sometimes it's just part of the scenery, although most series directly foster what the audience expects and likes.
Boys Love series are made by women for women, though many of its tropes have bishoujo equivalents. Because of this, most Boys Love works have idealized male characters who are sensitive and nurturing— traits that appeal to females. They are usually drawn in a Shojo style and exist in a world where homosexuality is considered no more unusual or transgressive than heterosexuality, though others, especially in Western media, explore this more realistically.
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Long story short, two guys in love with each other. Or sleeping together. Fun.
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08-31-2009, 12:01 AM
Now, what is Girls Love? Again, Tvtropes defines it as:
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This mostly anime and manga genre focuses on female/female relationships. Girls' Love tends to be less well known and dabbled in than its counterpart Boys Love, partly because of the belief (misguided or not) that male viewers are more interested in lesbian porn than in romantic stories. By the same token, Girls Love seems to be more often animated due to the belief that girls watch less TV. Curiously, in manga a lot (if not most) works in this genre are firmly planted in the shoujo side of the spectrum, so are aimed squarely at a female audience, addressing the typical shoujo issues of trust and dealing with one's feelings instead of emphasizing the sexual side.
Girls' Love is also called yuri, and can focus either on the sex or on the emotional aspects of the relationship. The latter aspect is sometimes called shoujo-ai by Western fans, who coined the term following the pattern of the Boys' Love term shounen-ai.
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So, in short, two girls in love with each other or sleeping together. Again, fun.
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08-31-2009, 12:06 AM
Now it's time for a little bit about Slash and Femmeslash in Fandom! This time, I won't be quoting from Tvtropes. Urbandictionary does it well:
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Word used in fanfiction to denote homosexual pairings. Usually male/male, sometimes female/female AKA femmeslash. Often used interchangeably with yaoi or yuri. Slash originated in the early days of Star Trek fanfiction. Kirk/(slash)Spock.
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So when you go to say, Fanfiction.net, and you've noticed that your favorite Harry Potter story has say, Remus Lupin paired with Sirius Black, then you'll know that it falls under the 'slash' category. Granted, not all fanfiction is about slash. In fact, quite a bit of fanfiction deals with heterosexual pairings as well as slash and femmeslash. Some don't even deal with romance at all and that's okay.
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08-31-2009, 12:09 AM
Why I Made This Thread:
So it all started back in Celes Paradi, 2009. You know, the recent one. I used to hang out in a thread back there called The Wallflower Corner (there's a new one today, so how about that?), and at one point, I discussed with a friend about having a yaoi thread. While I originally changed my mind about it (as in, who in their right mind would talk about yaoi for hours?), I decided now to put it together as an "Eh, why not?" moment.
So there you go. Nothing more about it, really.
Sorry, no pretty pictures here.
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08-31-2009, 12:14 AM
The Rules:
1. Respect everyone here. Especially yourself.
2. No homophobia. I can understand if you're uncomfortable with it (though why you would be here in the first place astounds me), but no gay-bashing, okay? Actually, for that matter, no straight-bashing, or bisexual-bashing either. See the first rule.
3. Nothing graphic, people. That means no pictures of rough sex. I don't want to be at the computer with my mom looking over my shoulder, taking one look at the picture and saying, "...We need to have a talk." With my expression being: "D:" Oh, and it's against Menewsha policy, too.
4. Chatting about other stuff is fine. I do it all the time. :D
5. However, this is a thread about Boys Love, Girls Love, and overall, good old-fashioned slash/femmeslash (now there's a pairing you don't see everyday). Just relax, have fun, and who knows? You could make a new friend.
6. Oh, and I almost forgot. Swearing is fine, but be tasteful about it, okay? I don't want to see the F-word as every other word in a sentence. It's just not good.
7. No trolling, please, and no spamming. We could do without it.
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08-31-2009, 12:18 AM
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08-31-2009, 12:20 AM
Thanks and Disclaimers:
Thank you everyone who comes to visit, and to all those people whose sites I just quoted above.
For the record, I own nothing here. Not the sites, not the information, not the pictures, and certainly not the genres.
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08-31-2009, 12:22 AM
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08-31-2009, 12:24 AM
*Cuts the ribbon*
We are now open!
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08-31-2009, 12:25 AM
OMG Oscar! Too many intro posts *gets gray hair waiting to post*
Look, I've outgrown yaoi while I waited! *goes senile and drools on self instead of about yaoi* :drool:
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08-31-2009, 12:30 AM
No, don't grow old! D: We need young'uns to post about pretty boys kissing and squeal over the rather obvious subtext in anime!
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08-31-2009, 12:32 AM
The heck we do! I prefer the older, less squealy fangirls. They're generally better informed. Heck, they are able to spell yaoi.
If I had a dollar for every time someone applied to our yaoi guild on Gaia and spelled it "yoai" I'd have quite a bit of pocket change. If you can't even spell your favorite genre....*shakes head*
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08-31-2009, 12:33 AM
Granted, I don't know if people even correct their spelling. Sometimes, my fingers go flying over the keyboard, spellling things wrong. The older fans tend to be nicer, too, more tolerant.
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I want pocket change now. And a dollar.
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08-31-2009, 12:37 AM
Spellcheck is your friend. All the browsers want to correct your spelling these days, so it seems like there's no excuse for it. Just add "yaoi" to your dictionary and you're good to go.
I want pocket change too. =/
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08-31-2009, 01:59 AM
It's what I do. Good thing I try to check my spelling before I send it out.
Now, let's get to discussing! How did you get into yaoi, For-chan?
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08-31-2009, 02:09 AM
A long long looooooong time ago, I discovered fanfiction on the internet! And I started hunting it down. I ended up on this site called the Sakura Lemon Archive, which, as you can guess was mostly smutty lemons and buried there amongst the Ranma 1/2 porn, was a yaoi fic with Ranma and Ryouga. I was intrigued! I really liked it, so I started hunting down more and more, reading yaoi fanfiction for anime series I hadn't even seen, just to read more. And from there I discovered slash (funny that, yaoi first, then slash) and I've been into them both ever since.
How about you? How did you stumble upon it?
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08-31-2009, 02:13 AM
It all began when I was twelve years old and I had such a thing for Orlando Bloom and Lord of the Rings in general. Soon, I found Lord of the Rings fanfiction, slash too, which soon led itself into Harry Potter fanfiction (plus slash!) and then into anime. Now I'm just a full-fledged yaoi fangirl. Yup. Yaoi, I think I found through the anime, and began reading some of the comics online, like Love Mode. Good stuff to find at thirteen. My parents never knew about it. They still don't. XD
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08-31-2009, 02:24 AM
God! Don't tell me how old you are! Damn kids making me feel old as dirt XD The internet wasn't advanced enough for me to discover yaoi at that age. Hell, at that age, I think the internet was still a long distance phone call and nobody surfed for more than a few minutes at a time.
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09-01-2009, 01:09 AM
I'm seventeen! Woohoo! Almost eighteen, but still. How old are you?
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09-01-2009, 01:32 AM
Quite a few years older Grasshopper. XD
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09-01-2009, 07:07 PM
I'm going to assume twenty. Right?
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09-01-2009, 09:24 PM
Add a few years to that and you're getting there. ^_^;
Although, I suppose in the grand scheme of things I'm not really that old, but still not that young. I'm just a kid at heart....a kid at heart who has no tolerance for actual kids. Go figure! XD
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09-02-2009, 01:55 AM
Twenty-three?
Can't blame you there. Kids have a tendancy to be loud and annoying. >.<
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09-02-2009, 02:41 AM
Keep adding XD
Yes, they do. I think kids can be cute. I'm not one of those militant kid-free people. But I'll never have any and they definitely get on my nerves. I hate the attitude of older kids, like tweenies and stuff.
Especially tweenies that are into yaoi and come into the genre wanting everything to be like Gravitation and reading all that "rape = love" type BL manga and squeeing over it. That's the worst kind of manga. I really despise it, but I find that younger fans eat it up. I guess they just love the melodrama?
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