I atract stalkes that love me in an unhealthy way and say they'll die without
me, or i attract non comital men who are in love with me, but want to sleep
around before they settle down...

I tried a dirrerent type of guym and i got a controling non comital guy who was
in love with me but wanted to sleep around, but wanted me to wait cause he
wanted to sette down with me... just not yet..... - sigh-

so i ask about the word 'comitment', most men hear
this word and generally run for the hills, or start to freak out because they're
loosing they're 'freedom'. When in actuality all their loosing is their ability to
jump on what ever they please and not suffer the consequences (though many
of them do from the countless women) but mainly, they feel less guilty.

I'm not saying all, i know some very comitted men, and some very comitment
fobic men.

But why is it do you think that men see it as such a fantastic thing to manipulate
and abuse women into giving up something for nothing? is it a power trip? being
a woman, I just don't get it.... Why would you willingly want to hurt someone that
way? by barging in and bailing out?

(I'm not to say it's all men, women these days need to stop trying to beat them at
drinking games and sexual conquests. It's a genetic fact we have more cells in
the body that store fat making it easier for us to get legless)

So I ask you, is it really right for men to sleep around? or has it simply befome
socially accepted over the years? or... is it just simply the way our world works?

edit: could someone please tell me if they feel this shouold be in the debates forum...
i didn't think it was the right fit

I have no idea. xD
Men are weird. I don't get them.

Hey man, I can have all the drinking contests I want. :XP
(I'll drink a mutha fucka under the table. ;D )
I don't get "legless" and I don't skag around like some floosie, that's not me. :lol:

Originally Posted by Oirish

I have no idea. xD
Men are weird. I don't get them.

Hey man, I can have all the drinking contests I want. :XP
(I'll drink a mutha fucka under the table. ;D )
I don't get "legless" and I don't skag around like some floosie, that's not me. :lol:

Oh no dont get me wrong lol i like a good drink
and i can drink the sucker under the table lol
it's just i know my limit y'know?
then you get the girls who drink till they can't remember whta happened....
and end up going home with some guy they dont know... it's not only wrong
it's dangerous! T_T

edit: and yes, men are weird lol and quite stupid sometimes :P

Originally Posted by Kyatto.chan

Oh no dont get me wrong lol i like a good drink
and i can drink the sucker under the table lol
it's just i know my limit y'know?
then you get the girls who drink till they can't remember whta happened....
and end up going home with some guy they dont know... it's not only wrong
it's dangerous! T_T

edit: and yes, men are weird lol and quite stupid sometimes :P

I have no limit. I go puke and then drink more. xD
Just making more room ye' know?
(Aye, I'm not an alcoholic. Alcoholics go to meetings. ;D )

lol Maybe I just don't understand them because I usually tend to go out with dicks. xD My advice, never date gutter punks. Bad news maaaaaan. :rofl:

Originally Posted by Oirish

I have no limit. I go puke and then drink more. xD
Just making more room ye' know?
(Aye, I'm not an alcoholic. Alcoholics go to meetings. ;D )

lol Maybe I just don't understand them because I usually tend to go out with dicks. xD My advice, never date gutter punks. Bad news maaaaaan. :rofl:

Never date MMA fighters.... they're bad news too...
:laughs: ah i dont puke lol XD i just, keep going and get less and less stable lol
but it's weird cause i can remember what's going on, i just fall over myself LOLI'm not a big party drinker though~ I'd prefer an outing with dancing and a few drink
over a piss up XD

Originally Posted by Kyatto.chan

Never date MMA fighters.... they're bad news too...
:laughs: ah i dont puke lol XD i just, keep going and get less and less stable lol
but it's weird cause i can remember what's going on, i just fall over myself LOLI'm not a big party drinker though~ I'd prefer an outing with dancing and a few drink
over a piss up XD

Eh, I'm not into pretty jocks. xD
I like 'em scruffly and dirty. :rofl:

Ah, see I'm not really a socialite. I like to just get drunk with a bunch of friends.
I don't like open public places where they let just any trash in. xD (And by trash I mean the opposite of what you're probably thinking. :XP I mean annoying stuck up fake prissy people, or those floosies who pretend to be SUPER drunk after like 2 drinks and act like a total annoying slag. :lol:)

Men just love to have sex, simple as that. They wont admit it but they love pleasure and they dont enjoy being tied down to one girl unless she is willing to sate them completely...

I think women try to complicate men too much but for your average guy they just want to get laid and they want to do it with as many women as possible.

Me personally i went through girls like tissue paper when i was single, however i never manipulated them either, i told them straight up what it was and we did what we wanted then walked away with no regrets. a few turned into 'relationships' you could say but it was basically friends with benefits.

Either way your average guy thinks with his dick and is pretty bad at sex as well. they want pleasure they want it now and they dont care how they get it. hence the mentality to lie cheat and steal for it. This is just the reality of life and what we live in.

Originally Posted by Oirish

Eh, I'm not into pretty jocks. xD
I like 'em scruffly and dirty. :rofl:

Ah, see I'm not really a socialite. I like to just get drunk with a bunch of friends.
I don't like open public places where they let just any trash in. xD (And by trash I mean the opposite of what you're probably thinking. :XP I mean annoying stuck up fake prissy people, or those floosies who pretend to be SUPER drunk after like 2 drinks and act like a total annoying slag. :lol:)

MMA fighters aint all that pretty LOL especially after a fight XD

no no i agree with your definition of trash, that's why there's only one bar i'll do out too, alcohole, pool, sremo and a live band, all the preppy little skanks go out to a 'club' :laughs:

Originally Posted by Kyatto.chan

MMA fighters aint all that pretty LOL especially after a fight XD

no no i agree with your definition of trash, that's why there's only one bar i'll do out too, alcohole, pool, sremo and a live band, all the preppy little skanks go out to a 'club' :laughs:

Huh. xD That actually doesn't sound too bad. P:
I want to attempt to find one of those. :rofl:

Originally Posted by Gary Stargazer

Men just love to have sex, simple as that. They wont admit it but they love pleasure and they dont enjoy being tied down to one girl unless she is willing to sate them completely...

I think women try to complicate men too much but for your average guy they just want to get laid and they want to do it with as many women as possible.

Me personally i went through girls like tissue paper when i was single, however i never manipulated them either, i told them straight up what it was and we did what we wanted then walked away with no regrets. a few turned into 'relationships' you could say but it was basically friends with benefits.

Either way your average guy thinks with his dick and is pretty bad at sex as well. they want pleasure they want it now and they dont care how they get it. hence the mentality to lie cheat and steal for it. This is just the reality of life and what we live in.

In my heart i already knew that but i wish that it wasn't true :laughs: or that someone would say otehrwise to keep the hope alive XD

I couldn't do that, have one night stands, i have no idea if they're clean or not T-T what if they're diseased! T_____T

Originally Posted by Oirish

Huh. xD That actually doesn't sound too bad. P:
I want to attempt to find one of those. :rofl:

and it's small too, not lots of people lol it's so awesome! you just drink, play pool (badly, but love it!) and just, talk and dance and stuff lol XD there's karaoke rooms too but no one ever goes :P

Originally Posted by Kyatto.chan

In my heart i already knew that but i wish that it wasn't true :laughs: or that someone would say otehrwise to keep the hope alive XD

I couldn't do that, have one night stands, i have no idea if they're clean or not T-T what if they're diseased! T_____T

Dude, I know what you mean.
Not only that, but if you do it leaves you feeling all empty and dirty and used up. D;

Well genetically, men are programmed to spread their seed to as many healthy young women as possible. We're animals too, so men still have that caveman urge to be fruitful and help the human race. And with the high dangers that come with human birth, many children die along with their mothers. You'd think that getting as many women pregnant as possible would make sense. But, now we have technology that gives us safer births and we have created the family unit that works best with two partners to keep stability in the home.
So it's most likely genetic. Some men are weaker to their urges than other men...I guess.

Originally Posted by Oirish

Dude, I know what you mean.
Not only that, but if you do it leaves you feeling all empty and dirty and used up. D;

Tell me about it LOL but I've never had a one night stand ^^;; I've even had boyfriend make me feel that way though... >_>

not to mention emotionally men remember the pleasure more in life and women remember the pain. that's just... that's sucky! T_T

@Anna: Genetics suck!! lol actually they do their job~ survival is the basis of life really~ There are definitely men who are weaker. But also, when a man finds a woman he actually wants to be with, studies show that they don't leave, women drive them away with their demands and what not... I thought that was an interesting statistic ^^

So apparently men only want to be with bitchy demanding women? D;

Originally Posted by Oirish

So apparently men only want to be with bitchy demanding women? D;

:LAUGHS: i don't think that was the point XD if you treat him right he'll stay loyal if he 'really' loves you~ but men get love and sex mixed up i swear... actually i know they do lol but he wont stay without sex either XD actually he will ^^ if you're really supportive and dont give him sex, he'll get the sex else ware and still say he's with you XD

I think a lot of men in this day and age are coming around to the idea of commiting to a relationship much easier, but you also have to realize the peer preasure that most guys are put under. We are raised in a society where men are expected to sleep around, so when a guy really does just want a relationship others will tease him or make him feel less manly over it.

And one night stands made you feel empty or loney inside? X_x

I loved my one nighters and most of the girls i talked to afterwards were happy with them too. I think you need to realize there are different kinds of sex in the world. There is the I love you so much lets make love sex. and the ... your horny as hell and so am I lets fuck! sex. Xd

Both are really great you just have to distinguish which one you are recieving at the time. :3

lol No not lonely.
Just worthless and used up and trashy.
I had a "one time thing" once and I felt like shit afterwards.
Yes, the "let's just fuck." kind of sex.
I don't know about every girl though.
Some girls just might be okay with that sort of thing. (In this day & age I don't doubt it. Chicks are becoming sluttier and sluttier and from what I've noticed on television and even just around where I live, have like no self respect, they'll spead their legs to any passing dude.)
But I do know I've put on the "Oh I'm fine that was cool. :D" act before and it was believable, so I have reason to believe not ALL those girls may have felt the same way.
I dunno, I think my issue is I would rather just not waste myself on some dude who doesn't give a shit about me.


More questions for any guy that wants to answer them... xD
Why is it that guys don't feel dirty or trashy sleeping around with multiple women?
Wouldn't you rather wait for the right chick to come along, or even just a relationship for that matter?
Wouldn't it be more worth it to not "give it up" to someone you feel nothing for?

Originally Posted by Oirish

lol No not lonely.
Just worthless and used up and trashy.
I had a "one time thing" once and I felt like shit afterwards.
Yes, the "let's just fuck." kind of sex.
I don't know about every girl though.
Some girls just might be okay with that sort of thing. (In this day & age I don't doubt it. Chicks are becoming sluttier and sluttier and from what I've noticed on television and even just around where I live, have like no self respect, they'll spead their legs to any passing dude.)
But I do know I've put on the "Oh I'm fine that was cool. :D" act before and it was believable, so I have reason to believe not ALL those girls may have felt the same way.
I dunno, I think my issue is I would rather just not waste myself on some dude who doesn't give a shit about me.


More questions for any guy that wants to answer them... xD
Why is it that guys don't feel dirty or trashy sleeping around with multiple women?
Wouldn't you rather wait for the right chick to come along, or even just a relationship for that matter?
Wouldn't it be more worth it to not "give it up" to someone you feel nothing for?

I agree completely. I am not a boy, but as for the questions, I do have some opinions. And don't get me wrong, their are alot of nice boys out there, but there are definitly a lot of gross ones.

-Guys don't feel trashy sleeping around with dozens of women because they can simply just shower and wash their weiner off.
-I think that WHILE they are waiting for the right girl, they just go through women like candy because they just want something to relieve themselves in.
-To alot of them, "giving it up" isn't something special they would like to wait for, and to other guys, they want to seem like "the man" and see how quick they can get into some girl's pants.


There are a couple good ones out there, but I unfortunately had to go through a couple baddies to get the boy of my dreams. It was rough. And every single one was a different type of crappy guy. I had a total of 3 boyfriends before I met my fiancee. The first was the "I like you but I want to keep my options open and try out other chicks while we are dating.." type. The second was "I am too shy and sensitive to do anything, but I will be around every second of the day to cater to your every need so you don't break my heart.." type. Ugh that was annoying. And the third was the "I just got out of a serious relationship and I need a rebound because my d*ck can't take a break until I find someone I really love.." type.

After all that though, I finally found a nice, charming, really sweet boy that loves me for ME and is around when I want but not too much, and is willing to have fun but is also willing to wait if I wanted to. So I got lucky. And now I am having his baby so commitment is never an issue ;)

I'd like to speak on the behalf of men who do respect woman, just a bit curious to where all of you find these guys that your description of us is so demeaning. One horn dog (male or female) should not define a whole gender, hopefully telling you about myself might explain that.

Nothing against Gary but his peer pressure excuse is perhaps the reason females think so lowly of us, though they should hold it against the few guys that do sleep around and not the real men who look for long term relationships. If Gary wants to sleep around with females, that's just fine with me, I'll stick with females that haven't been around the block.

I'm a extremely committed man, I believe in love and settling down for a future. I want marriage and kids like the next person, I can be faithful to a woman like I hope she can be to me. I'm so serious about how I approach a relationship that I won't take someone serious till it's at least 5-6 months in, meaning I ain't sleeping around or calling you "wifey".

I'll just answer a few questions someone ask earlier in the thread.

1. Why is it that guys don't feel dirty or trashy sleeping around with multiple women?
I never slept with multiple women, not all of us are so horny that we feel the need to disrespectful ourselves or find a woman who's willing to disrespect herself.

2.Wouldn't you rather wait for the right chick to come along, or even just a relationship for that matter?

I do, you females aren't the only ones looking for a person that's faithful, loving and committed to a relationship.

3. Wouldn't it be more worth it to not "give it up" to someone you feel nothing for?

Again, you mistake a few guys who hurt you females in the past for the rest of us. I'm a little disturb to how you all view men, it's sort of a contradiction considering how you want men to view you with respect but you lack the same sort of respect back.

There are good guys out there, you all just got to know a person better and maybe see them for who they are before giving your hearts away.

Originally Posted by Seven

I'd like to speak on the behalf of men who do respect woman, just a bit curious to where all of you find these guys that your description of us is so demeaning. One horn dog (male or female) should not define a whole gender, hopefully telling you about myself might explain that.

Nothing against Gary but his peer pressure excuse is perhaps the reason females think so lowly of us, though they should hold it against the few guys that do sleep around and not the real men who look for long term relationships. If Gary wants to sleep around with females, that's just fine with me, I'll stick with females that haven't been around the block.

I'm a extremely committed man, I believe in love and settling down for a future. I want marriage and kids like the next person, I can be faithful to a woman like I hope she can be to me. I'm so serious about how I approach a relationship that I won't take someone serious till it's at least 5-6 months in, meaning I ain't sleeping around or calling you "wifey".

I'll just answer a few questions someone ask earlier in the thread.

1. Why is it that guys don't feel dirty or trashy sleeping around with multiple women?
I never slept with multiple women, not all of us are so horny that we feel the need to disrespectful ourselves or find a woman who's willing to disrespect herself.

2.Wouldn't you rather wait for the right chick to come along, or even just a relationship for that matter?

I do, you females aren't the only ones looking for a person that's faithful, loving and committed to a relationship.

3. Wouldn't it be more worth it to not "give it up" to someone you feel nothing for?

Again, you mistake a few guys who hurt you females in the past for the rest of us. I'm a little disturb to how you all view men, it's sort of a contradiction considering how you want men to view you with respect but you lack the same sort of respect back.

There are good guys out there, you all just got to know a person better and maybe see them for who they are before giving your hearts away.

I agree, and i'm glad you vistied my thread thank you ^^ It's nice to hear from a guy who's willing to say that he sees women for the person that they are~ I admire that ^^


But I've found it's getting more and more common for relationships to last 6 moths or so for that reason... you think they're loving and trusting and they turn out not to be.

I know they're not all that way, but I'm yet to meet more that 2 men who are like yourself, who have a big enough heart to think with their mind first and not their eyes and genitalia.

That said I also know more and more women who use sex to try and rope a guy in and get upset when it doesn't work out...When it was really their fault for assuming a souly physical connection would make a relationship stable enough to have a real go.

It is genetic for me to want to sleep around, But the reason i ask about it, is because lately I've seen more and more men, younger and older, talk openly in groups and public places, on transport and in parks, about women and their conquests, speaking about then like they're not people and talking about how they went out a few times and bought them flowers and said they loved them when they didn't to get them into bed. I just don't understand how they can do that and not feel..... even a little bad about it.

It seems more and more common, and younger and younger too... do you think it's TV? do you think it's sexualisation of women at a younger age nowadays that makes the buys think of them as a pretty pin up picture first?...

bah. Screw men.
They are losers.
I've been with quite a few, they all suck.
They are only nice to look at and maybe have a quicky with.
I have a committed relationship with my GF.
We plan to marry and have kids. (donater sperm)
I dont ever plan to be with another man.

Originally Posted by Gary Stargazer

I think a lot of men in this day and age are coming around to the idea of commiting to a relationship much easier, but you also have to realize the peer preasure that most guys are put under. We are raised in a society where men are expected to sleep around, so when a guy really does just want a relationship others will tease him or make him feel less manly over it.

And one night stands made you feel empty or loney inside? X_x

I loved my one nighters and most of the girls i talked to afterwards were happy with them too. I think you need to realize there are different kinds of sex in the world. There is the I love you so much lets make love sex. and the ... your horny as hell and so am I lets fuck! sex. Xd

Both are really great you just have to distinguish which one you are recieving at the time. :3

Sex without love is dirty and gross lol. especially as womenget emotionally involved. When it comes to a one night stand they use you and then piss off ^^''
that's what makes you feel empty, and used, and abused, and all that other crap. There aren't alot of women out there who can turn off their natural emotional reaction and just have sex for sex sake.

Originally Posted by Seven

I'd like to speak on the behalf of men who do respect woman, just a bit curious to where all of you find these guys that your description of us is so demeaning. One horn dog (male or female) should not define a whole gender, hopefully telling you about myself might explain that.

Nothing against Gary but his peer pressure excuse is perhaps the reason females think so lowly of us, though they should hold it against the few guys that do sleep around and not the real men who look for long term relationships. If Gary wants to sleep around with females, that's just fine with me, I'll stick with females that haven't been around the block.

I'm a extremely committed man, I believe in love and settling down for a future. I want marriage and kids like the next person, I can be faithful to a woman like I hope she can be to me. I'm so serious about how I approach a relationship that I won't take someone serious till it's at least 5-6 months in, meaning I ain't sleeping around or calling you "wifey".

I'll just answer a few questions someone ask earlier in the thread.

1. Why is it that guys don't feel dirty or trashy sleeping around with multiple women?
I never slept with multiple women, not all of us are so horny that we feel the need to disrespectful ourselves or find a woman who's willing to disrespect herself.

2.Wouldn't you rather wait for the right chick to come along, or even just a relationship for that matter?

I do, you females aren't the only ones looking for a person that's faithful, loving and committed to a relationship.

3. Wouldn't it be more worth it to not "give it up" to someone you feel nothing for?

Again, you mistake a few guys who hurt you females in the past for the rest of us. I'm a little disturb to how you all view men, it's sort of a contradiction considering how you want men to view you with respect but you lack the same sort of respect back.

There are good guys out there, you all just got to know a person better and maybe see them for who they are before giving your hearts away.

This is from personal expierience, not out of just dissing random guys.
You are obviously one of the few that are nice.
That's cool.
Do you not notice at all how most men act?
I don't expect a guy to be resectful to me at all actually, I expect them to treat me like shit, that's how most guys roll. :lol:
I never said I expected them to treat me with respect at all. P:

Besides, men aren't the only ones who degrade themselves. I could say the same for most women. They act like trashy fucking whores these days. xD

You act like I'm racist or something only... sexist? :rofl:
LOL what do you know, a woman sexist. Funny shit, never realized I was one and never really seen that side of the arguement before. :XP

@ Faggy Chan:
LMFAO I'm seriously almost at that point too. Only, most women annoy me if I'm with them too long. D;
(I.E. Too prissy. Shallow, fake.) ... but bull dikes scare me... I always expect them to say something like "Come 'ere little girl, you gotta' mighten purdeh mouth. ;D" so yeah. D;
It's quite the dilemma. :lol:
Guess I would just have to find the right one.

I don't see anything wrong with enjoying sex for the sake of enjoying it. However before people start assuming men that enjoy sex cant commit i think i should point out i have been in an 8 year relationship with my g/f, never cheated on her or anything. (even if she does not give me as much as i want.)
So I mean even guys that love to have sex will commit. I think its more of a maturity thing than anything else. And by maturity I dont mean age. I know 50 year old guys that still would do anything that would let them even if they were married or in a relationship. You just have to learn to find guys that will respect you and treat you right.

I've slept with dozens of girls, been in one night stands and small time realtionships before i met my current lover. But one thing i always did was respect my lovers. I never did a girl just for my own desires, i did it to make them feel good too and i never manipulated them into it.
Imagine that ... a thoughtful mature whore, yea thats me Xd

Anyhoo rant aside its the maturity level you want to look at in a man, not how old or educated he is. It's painfully obvious to tell how mature a guy is though... if he does not like doing things with you, hangs out with his buddys all the time and generally ignores your feelings. odds are he will use you and loose you. :3