oh i see.

Okay well, if you really want a good handful of evidence before going to police, get some right away. Get a tape recorder and when he say something threatening or scary, secretly press it behind your back or whatever. Pictures would be hard to show as evidence but as you gather evidence I would talk to a counselor, atleast have one adult know what's going on and how you're handling this.

If friends/parents don't believe you, a counselor would probably be the best bet. That way, they can help you find solutions of gaining evidence, and understand your situation.

The only problem of having a tape recorder, is that you need to be around him which is worse but it'll be the "best evidence". You should just record him, I guess on the bus or wherever he pops up. I'm not telling you go on a hunt and destory mission to find him.

But also, can you try to avoid him? Like change your walking routes at school, like..instead of going to your locker first you just walk somewhere else for the time being. I don't know how he finds you and when he comes up to you. I would have other advice but if he has anger issues than being aggressive back wouldn't be the best idea.

And always be surrounded by friends, not random people (they can be a cushion) but friends are another important key.

I wish I was at your school, I'd protect you!

Originally Posted by Flowery Pit

Okay well, if you really want a good handful of evidence before going to police, get some right away. Get a tape recorder and when he say something threatening or scary, secretly press it behind your back or whatever. Pictures would be hard to show as evidence but as you gather evidence I would talk to a counselor, atleast have one adult know what's going on and how you're handling this.

If friends/parents don't believe you, a counselor would probably be the best bet. That way, they can help you find solutions of gaining evidence, and understand your situation.

The only problem of having a tape recorder, is that you need to be around him which is worse but it'll be the "best evidence". You should just record him, I guess on the bus or wherever he pops up. I'm not telling you go on a hunt and destory mission to find him.

But also, can you try to avoid him? Like change your walking routes at school, like..instead of going to your locker first you just walk somewhere else for the time being. I don't know how he finds you and when he comes up to you. I would have other advice but if he has anger issues than being aggressive back wouldn't be the best idea.

And always be surrounded by friends, not random people (they can be a cushion) but friends are another important key.

I wish I was at your school, I'd protect you!

I try to avoid him, it does not always work though. Thanks, for the advice. And, well I have mostly just people I know that do not qualify as friends though. And if I let some people I know, know that I fear him, they will do stuff like put me in danger with him without even realizing it for the purpose of scaring me.

thats so mean! if they know your afraid of the guy, they shouldnt just freak you out on purpose! even if they dont know why, they still shouldnt do that..

Originally Posted by TheNavyBlueMoon

thats so mean! if they know your afraid of the guy, they shouldnt just freak you out on purpose! even if they dont know why, they still shouldnt do that..

I agree. And it does not help my bus driver does NOTHING about serious situations, someone was reporting an attempted rape to the bus driver some other day, and he did nothing about it. Maybe he didn't believe the person who claimed to be the victim, cause I know my mom doesn't believe it. And, if it was a sincere report now, I have a rapist on my bus and doesn't even know who it is, cause I know the boy who has victimized me, was not on my bus that day.

People will just think he is "teasing" you and wouldn't bother. And I bet none of them know that you are traumatized by him :(

jeez, your buss driver is a bitch too! i dont see why somebody would lie about that. i feel bad for that poor person too, they tried to tell somebody, and they did nothing! and why wouldnt your mother believe it?

Originally Posted by TheNavyBlueMoon

jeez, your buss driver is a bitch too! i dont see why somebody would lie about that. i feel bad for that poor person too, they tried to tell somebody, and they did nothing! and why wouldnt your mother believe it?

My mother says she does not believe her cause, she spreads around false rumors that she had made out, and sexed her son to embarrass him and my mother also thinks the reason to her rumor spreading was for attention. And that bus driver I have only cares about himself IF someone is bothering him he'll do something about it, if someone is bothering someone else NOTHING is done about it. I miss my old bus driver!

awww, can't you file a complaint to the bus driver's company?

"her mis-behaving is nothing but a cry for attention..." is basically what your mother thinks?

how cliche. :sarcasm:

but i guess she could be right about that. but making up an attempt at rape is crossing the line, and i dont think anybody would go so far with that...

i can see why you miss your old bus driver, if this guy didnt take that seriously!

@ TheNavyBlueMoon, it would be better if she realized how honest that person was about the attempted rape. For people to be able to believe me about what has occurred to me through throughout my life though they'll need to realize how a lot of things that usually do not happen can occurr to certain people many times even if they definitely aren't that risky, and that of course my mental state is going to be more like someone who is older than me due to my experiences.

@ LaVida, good idea about reporting the bus driver to the company, cause well, he definitely needs to do something about serious situations.

if you tell a guidance counselor they will be able to help you and definitely the police can. as long as you don't tell him he wont be able to bother you.

Originally Posted by AndrAIa

if you tell a guidance counselor they will be able to help you and definitely the police can. as long as you don't tell him he wont be able to bother you.

I think that I will need to go to court though with my abuser cause I think they'll need to question me, and ask him if he has sincerely done it to me.

well you don't have to go to court for questioning that would be with the cops. if they decide to press charges against him then yes you may have to. but they can also put you in protective custody if that becomes an issue.

Originally Posted by AndrAIa

well you don't have to go to court for questioning that would be with the cops. if they decide to press charges against him then yes you may have to. but they can also put you in protective custody if that becomes an issue.

I appreciate your attempts to help, I must find another way though.

yea, the protective custody WOULD be a good idea....but you would get discharged EVENTUALLY (aka, you don't get protected long enough) so it'd be better to go to them after you have some evidence or something.

btw, i think the filing reports about the bus driver can be anonymous too ;)

EDIT: woah, ur edit makes him sound like a devil, but now I almost feel sorry for him (don't kill me for it) because for him to be so mean and nasty and psychotic, then someone must have done that to him. Wish he could remember that what he went though is what the people that he's terrorizing is going though now.

Originally Posted by LaVida

yea, the protective custody WOULD be a good idea....but you would get discharged EVENTUALLY (aka, you don't get protected long enough) so it'd be better to go to them after you have some evidence or something.

btw, i think the filing reports about the bus driver can be anonymous too ;)

EDIT: woah, ur edit makes him sound like a devil, but now I almost feel sorry for him (don't kill me for it) because for him to be so mean and nasty and psychotic, then someone must have done that to him. Wish he could remember that what he went though is what the people that he's terrorizing is going though now.

It all depends on the professional. Not all professionals are going to react to the situation in the same way.

true true, how's the evidence coming along?

Originally Posted by LaVida

true true, how's the evidence coming along?

So, far I still have no evidence.

And I recently figured out he is
at lunch (the one in school) while
I am! And I am quite certain if he thinks I don't
want to have anything to do with him he makes me, cause he's all like "hi!!!" today, when he knows, I do not want anything to do with him.
If he thought I wanted to have a conversation with him, he would of said nothing or started a conversation I do not want to partake in.

Edit: In case this makes a difference he is not exactly putting others what he has been through he is either trying to make his victim (maybe victims) suffer more than him, or he thinks the people he victimizes are extremely hard to harm emotionally I do not think that is the case though, cause when he realizes how much he has traumatized someone to the point where it totally mentally changes them, he mocks the changes, it seems very intentional.

If he eats lunch inside, then go outside and I get the feeling he's not much of a library person, so it might be better if you go to the library right after you finish eating. Also, it might be a good idea to join a club or two so that he won't want to come too close :)

Originally Posted by LaVida

EDIT: woah, ur edit makes him sound like a devil, but now I almost feel sorry for him (don't kill me for it) because for him to be so mean and nasty and psychotic, then someone must have done that to him. Wish he could remember that what he went though is what the people that he's terrorizing is going though now.

...i do to, a bit. i mean, hes a total and complete jerk, but...still. if hes a sociopath, its not entirely his fault. its cuz he has a mental disorder that makes him very dangerous, so, in a way, he cant help it... but, of course, he could help it, if he wanted to, but its not completely his fault hes a terrible person, which he is. if hes gone throught this as well, and is taking it all out on others...i think its self explanitory why i would feel bad for him there. but its still very, very wrong and horrible of him to be doing this to you, or to anyone!
oh, and yeah, no need to kill me for it either!

@ TheNavyBlueMoon, it would be better if she realized how honest that person was about the attempted rape. For people to be able to believe me about what has occurred to me through throughout my life though they'll need to realize how a lot of things that usually do not happen can occurr to certain people many times even if they definitely aren't that risky, and that of course my mental state is going to be more like someone who is older than me due to my experiences.

well, thats true. i dont think that person was lying, though. but, then again, i dont know her. but i think its a sincere report. maybe she missunderstood the guy she thinks attempted rape...?

bluemoon>>looking at how Death described him....I vote she's telling the truth, but sadly, I doubt that many people will believe her. I think it's more of a under 50% chance of anyone believing her because no one has yet reported the guy for rape OR attempted rape OR any type of abuse OR anger issues, etc. and when someone does report it, everyone will take a 180 degree turn.

@LaVida= well, thats true. *sigh* but i dont think that should have anything to do with it. if he attempted rape, and she said so, they shouldnt say shes lying.

@Screams-of-Death= well, i can see how it would seem intentional, but maybe he IS trying to make you and other victims suffer worse than he has, it would make sense...awful of him, but it could be why hes such a jerk. i dont know about that second one, i doubt he thinks you guys are so tough that it wouldnt affect you so.

bluemoon>> i agree with you, i bet he IS doing that intentionally. Who knows what he gets out of terrorizing people. Joy? Amusement? Confidence? Power? but whatever he get out of terrorizing people, it must be something that means a lot to him or else he wouldn't do it.

I guess people would believe someone if they say they get raped, but it wouldn't do much good. All that the police or watnot would investigate and it would have a high chance of the case going cold and they'll stop searching. Then comes the scary wolf back for revenge ._.

@ LaVida, i do not think there are c_lubs at my school, I might be incorrect though. I don't even think my class is allowed to eat outside. Also, I need credibility so not obeying the teachers might take away my credibility, and if I react to the punishments the authorities give me with an episode, i fear he little amount of thought I will put into my actions, and as a result what I'll do to myself.

@ TheNavyBlueMoon- Maybe it was him who attempted to rape, and he is someone the victim of the attempted rape, would anger. I warned her to stay safe and to behave herself when I saw him around her, maybe she dis-obeyed me.