Off-Topic: I LOVE criminal minds

On-topic:

Yes, psychological drugs and cures can influence a criminal's behavior. However, that is not all the time. And I shudder to think of the criminal that everyone believes has been "cured" and then is released into society and starts killing or attacking again.

And It's a sticky situation, i will admit. On the one hand, if the person IS cured, how is it conscionable to keep him locked up on the off chance that the cure might not have worked ? But on the other hand, the hand I side with, how can we risk releasing a criminal that we're mostly pretty almost completely sure won't do what he did to get locked up in the first place again?

On this i believe that the potential victims should be sided with, since these probably mostly rehabilitated criminals have proven that they cannot be trusted already, and the potential victims would most like want to stay alive (or un-raped, or un-beaten, ect)

Originally Posted by Tutela de Xaoc

SVU is simply an emotionally based program. I personally hate the cops in it since they go around the law most of the time to catch the people in the first place. If you are going to base your opinion on criminals and their action from a T.V. show, I would recommend Criminal Minds as it gets more in the psyche and explains why they criminals do what they do. Many of them actually have legitimate reasons, while not acceptable in society, their actions are still understandable even if they must in the end be punished for them.

I watch SVU for entertainment purposes, lol. That last statement from my last post was more of a joke in a way. I should have worded it different..^^;

My bias is more of a personal thing and is, in no way, based off of a show. By the way, I have never seen Criminal Minds. It seems like an interesting tv program.

Criminal minds and law and order svu are both frekaing awesome! lol.
anyways back on topic: uhm..idk what to say haha.
well drugs could help stop crime, if the person who commited the crime has a mental illness.
It is true that there is no way to eliminate all crime, but we do need to try to do something about the whole crime rates constantly increasing situation.

Originally Posted by Runes

An eye for eye is the only thing reasonable in this case.

An eye for an eye will make the world go blind. Violence lead to violence, and peace will make peace.

I think he should have several life-time jail sentences, with no contact with the outer world. Absolutely no chance to get out in society, 'cause sick bastards shouldn't be allowed to be around normal people. I'm not talking about harming him, but you need to clean out the weeds to let the flowers grow. One time a child offender, never going in crowded areas with normal people again. And a lot of psychologists should talk with them all the time, to make them feel bad about what they did.

Originally Posted by Vompire

An eye for an eye will make the world go blind. Violence lead to violence, and peace will make peace.

I think he should have several life-time jail sentences, with no contact with the outer world. Absolutely no chance to get out in society, 'cause sick bastards shouldn't be allowed to be around normal people. I'm not talking about harming him, but you need to clean out the weeds to let the flowers grow. One time a child offender, never going in crowded areas with normal people again. And a lot of psychologists should talk with them all the time, to make them feel bad about what they did.

I used that quote for my paper against the death penalty! It's a good quote! I agree that he just needs to stay locked away. to keep society safe.

Originally Posted by Vompire

An eye for an eye will make the world go blind. Violence lead to violence, and peace will make peace.

I think he should have several life-time jail sentences, with no contact with the outer world. Absolutely no chance to get out in society, 'cause sick bastards shouldn't be allowed to be around normal people. I'm not talking about harming him, but you need to clean out the weeds to let the flowers grow. One time a child offender, never going in crowded areas with normal people again. And a lot of psychologists should talk with them all the time, to make them feel bad about what they did.

Seriously, I pay taxes. This is something I don't want my tax money going to keep a person who used a abused over hundreds of people. I don't believe in Jail today. The Texas Jail is the only real jail. Think about. You pay for everything in jail and they sit typically on their lazy asses watching cable tv. Some punishment.

and I have to ask, have you watched news lately. They are discovering child offenders and sex offenders leaving near playgrounds, schools, and nursery centers.

Peace is an idea. Not a reality.

Pedophiles, especially one to such a degree as this would not last long in prison.

He would be murdered by the inmates within a week of incarceration.

He should be sentenced to life in prison. But thats all. He did do some really messed up stuff. Like beyond messed up. But doing any kind of cruel and unusual punishments to him won't reverse what he's done.

I'm sorry but I think for a case this extreme, life in prison is lucky for him. He doesn't even deserve that light of a punishment(as in it's light for what he's done).

I haven't heard about this so I don't know much about it.

But I think he should go to jail for the rest of his life and that all of his room mates should be people that have kids they love. I'm betting they will not play nice when they find out what he did.

And if the law wasn't there I think they should send him to space. Doesn't really matter if there is a jail there or not does it?

Originally Posted by Runes

Peace is an idea. Not a reality.

Agreed. As much as I hate to admit it, I can't help but be realistic of the world. The term "World Peace" is quite overrated.

Originally Posted by Runes

Seriously, I pay taxes. This is something I don't want my tax money going to keep a person who used a abused over hundreds of people. I don't believe in Jail today. The Texas Jail is the only real jail. Think about. You pay for everything in jail and they sit typically on their lazy asses watching cable tv. Some punishment.

and I have to ask, have you watched news lately. They are discovering child offenders and sex offenders leaving near playgrounds, schools, and nursery centers.

Peace is an idea. Not a reality.

I just think death is too easy, and torture is inhuman. I'm not trying to protect him, I'm trying to be a better human than he is. I'll give him the choice, that he never gave all his victims, and let him rot behind bars. I don't want the police to protect him from other inmates, but I don't want to wish for another human being to be harmed.
We can at least give peace to the victims and their family, that he is never going to hurt anyone again. It's not much, but that is the law, and that is why this is my opinion.

How is torture inhumane? This guy deserves everything imaginable to be done to him. Personally just the thought of what he has done, makes me sick beyond belief. I believe his punishment, is slow death by torture...in the most excruciating sense. He is a pathetic person and should be treated as such. He deserves no remorse and no help from the general population of people. I'm sure if you ask him, he doesn't care one bit about the problems he has caused these children and their families, and if he had the chance to do it again, he would. I vote for just about any of the medieval torture devices, those would be suitable in my opinion. And no I am not an evil person, and no I dont believe in gods punishment.

Originally Posted by Vompire

I just think death is too easy, and torture is inhuman. I'm not trying to protect him, I'm trying to be a better human than he is. I'll give him the choice, that he never gave all his victims, and let him rot behind bars. I don't want the police to protect him from other inmates, but I don't want to wish for another human being to be harmed.
We can at least give peace to the victims and their family, that he is never going to hurt anyone again. It's not much, but that is the law, and that is why this is my opinion.

jail wher ei live is pretty brutal.
and prison is worse than jail, and that's where this man is going.

I feel that the death penalty, not only is extremely expensive, but I believe it is an easy way out. Where's the punishment in death?

Originally Posted by Xxbl00dyxangelxX

jail wher ei live is pretty brutal.
and prison is worse than jail, and that's where this man is going.

I feel that the death penalty, not only is extremely expensive, but I believe it is an easy way out. Where's the punishment in death?

I have friends who have been to prison and they actully would rather go there then go back to jail. You can have TVs in your cell and have much more freedom to gather drugs and such. Yes the inmates care less about getting in trouble since they are there but it is a very nice place compared to jail.....or so I've heard from the men who have gone.

Originally Posted by danielley990

I have friends who have been to prison and they actully would rather go there then go back to jail. You can have TVs in your cell and have much more freedom to gather drugs and such. Yes the inmates care less about getting in trouble since they are there but it is a very nice place compared to jail.....or so I've heard from the men who have gone.

that depends on where you live.
where i live jail sucks, but prison is complete torture.

Originally Posted by Loveslust

How is torture inhumane? This guy deserves everything imaginable to be done to him. Personally just the thought of what he has done, makes me sick beyond belief. I believe his punishment, is slow death by torture...in the most excruciating sense. He is a pathetic person and should be treated as such. He deserves no remorse and no help from the general population of people. I'm sure if you ask him, he doesn't care one bit about the problems he has caused these children and their families, and if he had the chance to do it again, he would. I vote for just about any of the medieval torture devices, those would be suitable in my opinion. And no I am not an evil person, and no I dont believe in gods punishment.

Then how are we better than him?
If we believe, that people who tortures others, should be tortures, then we are the same as he is.

Oh, what's the different between jail and prison, danielley990 o.0 ?

He should get life in prison.. Pure and simple. Mostly because of what he did, he will be raped and beaten himself in prison. (Which, no doubt, will probably end in his death anyway.)

Originally Posted by Vompire

Then how are we better than him?
If we believe, that people who tortures others, should be tortures, then we are the same as he is.

Oh, what's the different between jail and prison, danielley990 o.0 ?

agreed. I feel that we are no better when we find peace in the fact that he will get raped when he is in prison.

jail is for more petty crimes.
Typically misdemeanors.
Or for people awaiting trial.

:vicky:

Many of you are throwing out quite extreme punishments.
Honestly, he should have his medical license revoked, have himself in the sex offender registry, have him on supervision, (don't let him near kids and such) and get him some serious help.

Give him to the mothers of the children he assaulted. I would make his agony last for days before I allowed him to die.

I definitely think he should be locked up in a small, dark, room in a basement and every day a new big black dude (with a giant winky) should come in and rape him in all of his body orifices for the rest of his life.
That sounds pretty fair to me.

Originally Posted by Mitzy

I definitely think he should be locked up in a small, dark, room in a basement and every day a new big black dude (with a giant winky) should come in and rape him in all of his body orifices for the rest of his life.
That sounds pretty fair to me.

Here, here, this is a great idea!!

Do you really believe that rape is something that can be condoned?
By saying that "he deserved it," don't you believe that you are simply buying into the same mindset as many rapists?

I don't care who a person is or what they have done, I will not wish rape upon them.

Create a device that will let him experience what he put those children through. Now there's justice.

But since that seriously isn't going to happen, we just need to make sure 1, he loses his license and 2, he's nowhere near children ever again. If he did it to that many, there's not a chance he's going to stop if he's near them again.

Either lock him up and throw away the key or give him the death sentence. Either way, children won't be harmed by him anymore and one less sexual offender will be off the street.

@Knerd, while I do see you're point(and honestly I'd be more sympathetic to the black guy being forced to rape the pedifile) it does seem fair that he should experience what he did to those kids. I would not wish rape upon anyone ever, but maybe a nightmare device or something?

Although in the end I do agree, rape should not be condoned or wished upon anyone.