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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-03-2011, 06:24 AM
Hahahah ohh now I get it! Ikuto :lol:
And that's a very good one there, Crow :rofl: Very clever, hurhurhur~
Sarofset, spanish can sound incredibly sensual or downright offending depending on who's the one speaking it. A Spanish spanish-speaker, for example, sounds utterly HORRID. A Colombian spanish-speaker, however, are the epitome of friendly-being. Argentinian, quite close to Spanish spanish-speakers in arrogance levels.
Unless you're the kind of people who likes words that can be whispered without problems, in which case you're doomed with English (and maybe French) :lol:
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sarofset
Jeddak of Helium
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06-03-2011, 06:47 AM
I'm really not sure what that last bit meant. lol.
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Maka-chan
Pm Me To Role-play With Me
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06-03-2011, 06:51 AM
hello everybody :angel:
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sarofset
Jeddak of Helium
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06-03-2011, 07:20 AM
Hey. :) I'm actually just about to leave. lol. Sorry. XD
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Ikuto Akihiko Hasegawa
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06-03-2011, 11:15 AM
I'm not fond of Spanish either. For no particular reason though.
And I didn't get that last part either, Kah. XD
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
The little creep with the weird ...
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06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
It's because spanish has too much of impact-sounding consonants (like T, CH, P, RR, C sometimes) compared to english, that uses more the soft-sounding consonants (like W, SH, R, W), making English in general more euphonic than most other romance languages, like Spanish.
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sarofset
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06-04-2011, 08:00 AM
...Mkay. lol.
I still don't understand what you mean. Sorry. My brain has been off all day. I woke up to the sound a a jack hammer across the street. XD Kinda puts you off for the day.
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The_Crow
Mime From Hell
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06-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Linguistics is hard to explain to people who don't have much of a foundation in linguistics or being multi-lingual. I get the basic gist though, but I don't know how to put it any easier way to understand, only in more complicated terms (such as the former set of phonemes contains many more 'stops').
-hugs sarofset- S'okay. We still love you.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
The little creep with the weird ...
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06-04-2011, 04:49 PM
Let's put it this way:
-Impact sounding consonants: You can't say "ttttttttt~" or "Chhhhh~" without making stops.
-Soft-sounding consonants: You can say "Mmmmm~" and "Shhhhh~" as long as your lung can without making a stop.
These impact sounding consonants are like a jack hammer across the street when it's overused in a conversation where the language forces you to use them in almost every syllabe :rofl:
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sarofset
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06-05-2011, 07:02 AM
...You...You don't speak German do you? lol. Southern German uses those sounds with some degree of fluidity. :)
Though I understand what you're driving at.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Yeah I do, and hell is it hard! Yet you gotta admit they don't have a real "Ch" (it's pronounced like a spanish g, or an english h) :sweat: Their way of pronouncing the r is magnific though - so sutile Till Lindemann's rolling r is casted as a very recognizable mannerism :rofl:
German is special in that it can be easily spoken in either a soft or an impacting way depending on the vocal skills of the one speaking it. In spanish is almost impossible to make it sound soft without people thinking you were born with a shorter tongue, and english... I'm under the impression even rappers have a great deal trying to make it sound impacting. It's as if you only got an impacting t! :insane:
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ljosberinn
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06-05-2011, 06:08 PM
Icelandic is a pretty high impact language.. lots of consonants! Sounds great when you're being formal, like in poetry, speeches etc. but for informal language.. well, it's no wonder we're using more English words than Icelandic for that to be honest. :P I do like listening to German though, and you're right Kah that it can be spoken both ways, I never thought about it like that! People keep saying that oh, it's such a harsh language while I always think it's so soft and beautiful sounding.
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sarofset
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06-05-2011, 07:26 PM
English can have great impact. Listen to a classically trained Shakespearean actor talk. It's awesome.
As for German, the harder, or softer sound of it is regional. In the north everything is very sharp, clear, very guttural. In the south it's softer.
Example: the word Ich:
In the far north pronounced Ick.
Toward the middle pronounced I(flem)
In the far south and into Austria pronounced Ish.
And of course you get completely different pronunciations with Dutch, Swedish, and other Germanic languages.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
The little creep with the weird ...
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06-05-2011, 07:28 PM
I think the only Icelandic I've ever heard was Björk singing Vökuró (that's icelandic, right?) :sweat: And hell did it sound like she was having a hard time trying to make it sound like a proper lullaby, especially with so many words ending in t or tt, hurhurhur~
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sarofset
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06-05-2011, 07:32 PM
With recent weird rules for German you can have three t's in the middle of a word. lol. How does one pronounce that without sounding like they have a stutter.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-06-2011, 05:24 AM
Really? Like which one? I wanna knooooow! :eager:
About a couple of years ago, the Royal Spanish Academy decided redundancy was perfectly aceptable again. Now we can exit out, enter in, descend down, raise up, repeat again, have an accented accent, among other strange things...
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The_Crow
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06-06-2011, 06:54 AM
To me, it sounds like the native Spanish speakers have a "lisp" for example (por ejemplo: )
The word "facil" (easy) is pronounced "fah seel" (NOT IPA transcription). The speakers from Spain say "fah thil"
Also the word "vamanos" (let's go) is pronounced "vah mah nos", and the speakers from Span sha "Bah mah nos".
Yet they condescend to us... :roll:
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sarofset
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06-06-2011, 08:49 AM
The only Spaniard I've ever met does not speak that way. lol.
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Hannibal Niccals
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06-06-2011, 09:09 AM
I love the very idea of this thread.
The funny thing I find is that a friend of mine, when he first met me he thought when I told him I had all sorts of movies he thought my movies consisted of a lot of romance/sad/touchy-feely type movies which couldn't be further from the truth. I have never liked gender roles.
Also, one of my friends online, even though I do unfortunately have my gender I was born with up, was surprised to find out I was not what they thought I was. I honestly have no problem with telling someone my gender, but I really don't like the stereotype either.
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The_Crow
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06-06-2011, 10:51 AM
Hannibal Niccals: A new face, welcome! We have digressed to a side conversation about linguistics, but if you kind of skip around in the thread you will find some very... well downright genius points made by various people, many agreeing with or adding onto what I have brought up in the first post, and there are some who intelligently disagree, which is fine too (as long as it is done so intelligently, the key criteria).
Online, you see alot of the "back of the bathroom wall" theory... anonyminity + an audience = stupidity.
It also gives you the opportunity to express yourself with nothing but ASCII characters representing "you", and other peoples' concepts of you are formed by your ideas, interests, quirks, and demeanour... not by what parts you have or don't have on your body, which is pretty cool in my opinion.
I do hope you feel inclined to stick around, but if not, thank you for dropping by. :yes:
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Yeah Spaniards have a very particular(ly horrid) way of speaking, yet they act like they are part of a superior order than hispanics >:/ They probably legalized redundancy just to understand themselves :rofl:
I remember once helpie a newbie in MapleStory and he asked me if girls ever played the game. He was shocked to learn that I, indeed, was a girl player, even though I had a female avatar. Rofl.
Hey Hannibal! Gotta love the movie trilogy, Anthony Hopkins is awesome.
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ljosberinn
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06-06-2011, 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarofset
With recent weird rules for German you can have three t's in the middle of a word. lol. How does one pronounce that without sounding like they have a stutter.
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I remember one word in Icelandic that has three t's in it - žįtttaka, which means participation.. but it's a word put together by two words (žįtt and taka) so you pronounce it as such. There is one word that has like five or six consonants in a row as well, but I can't remember which one it is at the moment, I'll tell you when I do..
Kah, yeah I know the song.. sounds like a lullaby to me, but I guess that's because I'm used to the sounds more. :P
In more gender-related news, my mum, who came to visit me for three days with my dad, bought me a book while she was here.. apparently she saw it and thought of me right away. It's called Annabel and it's by Kathleen Winter. It's about an intersex child who is raised as a boy but as they grow up, they start feeling more like a female, and have a name for their "female side" - Annabel. I didn't even realise till a few hours later that uh, wow, my mum saw a book about a trans experience and thought to buy it for me! We've never talked about it really properly, but it shows she's aware of me being trans.. felt like she was showing support in her own way. :)
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Hannibal Niccals
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06-07-2011, 02:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Crow
Hannibal Niccals: A new face, welcome! We have digressed to a side conversation about linguistics, but if you kind of skip around in the thread you will find some very... well downright genius points made by various people, many agreeing with or adding onto what I have brought up in the first post, and there are some who intelligently disagree, which is fine too (as long as it is done so intelligently, the key criteria).
Online, you see alot of the "back of the bathroom wall" theory... anonyminity + an audience = stupidity.
It also gives you the opportunity to express yourself with nothing but ASCII characters representing "you", and other peoples' concepts of you are formed by your ideas, interests, quirks, and demeanour... not by what parts you have or don't have on your body, which is pretty cool in my opinion.
I do hope you feel inclined to stick around, but if not, thank you for dropping by. :yes:
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I subscribed to the thread thank you very much, I had noticed the change in topic, and I do feel like I may stick around. 83
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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 02:45 AM
Well that's good. :) New people are always good.
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Ikuto Akihiko Hasegawa
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06-07-2011, 03:58 AM
All this talk about languages has made me start reading up on German. :XD
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