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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 04:06 AM
You should learn. :) It's a beautiful language. :)
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Ikuto Akihiko Hasegawa
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06-07-2011, 04:07 AM
It seems pretty easy going so far. I'm sure it has its hard spots just like any other language, but it's a good break from Japanese and French. :XD (Which I've been neglecting for a while anyway... :x)
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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 04:11 AM
Oh it seems quite simple at first. The only thing you really have to watch is your word order.
Subject, Verb, Object, Nicht. Except if you have a modal verb in which case the verb jumps to the end.
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06-07-2011, 04:16 AM
I'll keep that in mind. o wo
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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 04:19 AM
It gets weirder. lol.
I loved every second of the class. I have two more this coming semester too, and I can't wait. ...which reminds me... I ought to keep studying. lol.
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Ikuto Akihiko Hasegawa
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06-07-2011, 04:22 AM
I don't doubt that. Languages do some funky things. :lol:
Haha yeah. I should be studying mine too, but... muurrr...
My mind wants a nice long break.
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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 04:24 AM
Mine seems to need one too. :(
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Ikuto Akihiko Hasegawa
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06-07-2011, 04:29 AM
Yeah they need them once in a while. :lol:
-pokes brain-
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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 04:37 AM
I'm gonna enjoy my break a lot, but I can't wait to start school again. :)
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Ikuto Akihiko Hasegawa
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06-07-2011, 04:39 AM
Lawl. I can't start school until next year because it's expensive and I'm broke.
But it's art school. No languages. :lol:
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-07-2011, 04:41 AM
Ljos, you're a trannie? :eager: But, a transvestite, or transexual, or transgender, or who knows what else?
It was pretty easy for me to learn words in german... until I noticed I had to learn them -and- their artikel. If I call something a he when it's a she or a hir it could be disastrous! :lol:
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ljosberinn
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06-07-2011, 08:32 AM
Kah, just so you know, a lot of people would find that word offensive. :P I guess I'm gender neutral, though I always get lost in labels and prefer to just say I'm a person, not a gender. I prefer ze/hir, but I don't really mind he or she either, as long as it's not always the same one.
Most people, especially native English speakers, have a problem with German grammar it seems, as it's fairly complicated, especially compared to English. It's very similar to Icelandic grammar though, so I didn't think it was too difficult. But yeah, you have articles, declension, conjugations, different cases.. the whole lot. Though not as many cases as Latin, which is just insane.
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jupiter
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06-07-2011, 08:34 AM
There's a lot of conjugation in French, too. Even more so when you're talking about activities you do more than once, or on a regular basis as opposed to just a fleeting fancy. I don't mind it, though.
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Hannibal Niccals
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06-07-2011, 09:11 AM
Yeah, languages change and grow, if they don't they turn into dead languages where it's anyone's guess as to how the words were originally pronounced and even in worse case scenarios, what they could even have meant. A lot of Ojibwe, the Native American language from around my part of the country, is getting like that.
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06-07-2011, 09:17 AM
For the life of me, I can't remember the name of the actual language, but there was only one remaining survivor who knew it. This skinny little French man traveled up here and took it upon himself to learn the language, and is now teaching it to the entire village. There are a few people who are happy about it, because it means a part of their culture is going to continue, but there didn't seem to be anyone under the age of 400 interested.
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The_Crow
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06-07-2011, 09:21 AM
I am really confused as to how gender became embedded into nouns of a languages. Who decided that a table is female? (mesa) or depending on the dialect a pen (pluma/feather) (boligrafo/ballpointpen) can be female or male... The articles and adjectives you use in the sentence are based around the 'gender' of some inanimate object.
At least in English there's only gender for people... but then again there's those of us -whistles not so innocently- who like to rebel against that...
-sits on the xe/hir couch-
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06-07-2011, 09:28 AM
That one is a bit strange, I do admit. Like la voiture (feminine "the car") and le chat (masculine "the cat").
It always seems easier in English because we don't have all the required modifiers.
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Hannibal Niccals
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06-07-2011, 10:07 AM
It is strange and I do know of languages that do that. Inanimate objects shouldn't have genders, because they don't.
But the Ojibwe have a little of that they call rocks in certain ceremonies, our grandmas or grandpas. It's strange.
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jupiter
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06-07-2011, 08:20 PM
It's a cultural thing.
Although, I'm not offended by it. I have rarely paid much attention to the uses of "his" or "her" in directions, pamphlets, etc. It was more about content rather than the one small aspect of delivery.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-07-2011, 11:11 PM
I never understood what was so offensive about words like these. Hell, even nigger seems like a strange thing to be offended about for me. I guess it's because in my country they go about "Don't call me moreno (dark-haired), for I am NEGRO (black)!" :lol:
Spanish has 15 verb tenses. Now multiply that by 6 pronouns. Though to be honest, 5 of these tenses are compound forms... still makes me feel like you need to be born in a spanish-speaking country to be able to speak it fluently after 20 years, hurhurr~ :ninja:
I once read that a last-native-speaker-of-x-language dies every two weeks. I don't know whether to believe it or think it was nothing more than a piece of yellow media... *shrugs*
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sarofset
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06-07-2011, 11:57 PM
There are lots of claims that cultures are constantly dying. I think it happens less often now because if a culture is well documented it never truly dies. At least that's my viewpoint.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-08-2011, 12:12 AM
I believe a culture dies when it stops being put to practice *shrugs*
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sarofset
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06-08-2011, 12:28 AM
Then no culture exists, because they are constantly changing and evolving with new ideas and influences.
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Kah Hilzin-Ec
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06-08-2011, 12:30 AM
But their roots are still the same, and the essence of the culture is still there. When there are no people left to participate in these practices, the culture might have been documented as something that was, but isn't anymore. You get me? :sweat:
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sarofset
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06-08-2011, 12:34 AM
I understand your point, but I gotta say at least in my country our roots are pretty much lost.
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