When I came out to my parents, my dad turned to my mum and said "I TOLD YOU. I knew it. See, I always told you that she'd turn out to be gay." :lol:

Originally Posted by Crimson Fang

@PrincessBane-
My point was more that until someone does something overt enough to bring attention to the detail that they are a lesbian, it is easy enough to be oblivious to that feature of them. However I acknowledge your point that public perception of you being a lesbian yourself, and apparently a desirable one at that, renders my point less valid for your particular circumstance. Oh and on the point of people misrepresenting your sexuality, I can totally empathize with you on that.

Oooh, well, I do see your point. And the whole..."misjudging my sexuality thing" is more of a nuisance than an "omg, there's no way I'd ever be a lesbian." c.c I just like men too much? <<

Also, I wouldn't pay too much attention to that individual who seems to have this thread in an uproar. That user is most likely a troll.

Originally Posted by PrincessBane

Oooh, well, I do see your point. And the whole..."misjudging my sexuality thing" is more of a nuisance than an "omg, there's no way I'd ever be a lesbian." c.c I just like men too much? <<

Also, I wouldn't pay too much attention to that individual who seems to have this thread in an uproar. That user is most likely a troll.

Oh, I was not assuming you meant it in a derogative sense at all. I had actually been so egotistical as to assume your reasoning was more similar to my own. My grievance stems from what I perceive as a direct assault on my rights to self determination. To challenge my stated sexuality is to claim a higher degree of authority and legitimacy over my body and mind.

@Crimson Fang- Oh, I see. x.x How do you figure that someone assuming you're one orientation or the other is an assault on your rights of self-determination? I'm merely curious..

@PrincessBane-
I was not entirely sure how to clarify my stance so asked a friend. Their clarification is as follows.

Originally Posted by Mah God

By questioning [my] sexuality, [they are] questioning [my] ability to define and understand [my]self, while at the same time suggesting [they are] capable of doing both.

Honestly, I like lesbians.
Especially ones who have had the courage to step out of the closet.
And, unlike a user said earlier, I have seen lesbians more accepted than gay men.
My thinking behind why people would even possibly think that is because (from what I've seen) being gay makes a guy the equivalent of a girl, and therefor putting him into the female position, when males are supposed to be in the male position, whereas lesbians, there's no definable "male" position for either of them.
That's what I've seen.

Also, want to state what everyone else has.
Love is love. <3

@Crimson Fang- Huh....I never thought about it that way, that's an interesting perspective. ><

I don't have a problem with lesbians, or gay people in general. Be with who you want, as long as you're happy that's all that should matter.

I do, however, have a problem with the fact that some girls like to pretend to be lesbians just to get guys attention. It annoys the crap out of me, as they are just being fake and nasty.

I'm a pansexual genderqueer. Bahaha. Lesbians don't bother me at all. x)

Love is Love, no matter who you find it with.

lesbians and gay people and transgendered people don't bother me at all. PDA from all fronts bothers me, be it straight or gay. i don't know why, but people kissing in front of me is weird. i certainly won't say anything about it, though, because that's just rude to force your lifestyle on somebody else. ._.

i think gay people that act normal are awesome, like they are gay but really i don't ever notice because they act like a normal person... but i don't like those obnoxious people who come up, introduce themselves, then say 'hey i'm blah blah blah. I'm GAY, do YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?'

yes that has happened to me. its rude, and totally attempting to judge me. >< i try to love everyone though. i don't give a shit what your love life is like.

@PrincessBane-
Politics of identity just happens to be one of the areas of social & cultural anthropology which I am most interested in. ;)

Well I like people unless they give me good reason not to.
Orientation doesn't affect how I feel about someone.

@ Chronic -- I am SO with you on the PDA thing. I really don't need to in the presence of Full Frontal Face Snogging. I don't care Who is devouring Who's face, I don't want to see it. And from what I've seen it's actually the Hetero couples that are the ones guilty of this more. I have seen guy/girl couples practically having sex in public with no qualms of who saw them. And I have seen modest quick pecks from girl/girl couples and guy/guy couples. To me the whole orientation of the couple means nothing, it's the amount of PDA they show, to me it shows a lack of self-respect and privacy. Sorry if this is off topic.

I really don't mind. There's nothing wrong with being lesbian or gay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion or prefrence..

I am not sure what to say here, other than...Some of the people I call my closest friends identify themselves as lesbians, but I love them for their amazing personas...and don't really care who they sleep with/fall in love with...As long as it's among consenting adults, what business is it of mine?

Originally Posted by ll P W E E P ll

That's like asking "What do you think of straight people?"

There are people that are assholes. There are people that aren't. I'm a lesbian, but I'm a person too. I'm a person, a human being, before my sexuality takes place. Treat me as a human, that's all I ask. I could care less about your sexuality and what people think of it. I am who I am, that's it.

I'm bisexual so I love lesbians but I think what PWEEP said is very true. People are people you either like them or you don't. Sexual preferance shouldn't make any difference at all.

I love all of my lesbian and bi friends. They are usually really fun people, to hang with, plus we can check out girls together. lol. It's kinda awesome. Also they get super defensive of me, when a girl dumps me. :) Makes me feel loved.

I believe that your sexuality is related to your hormones, such as the balance of testosterone and estrogen. Thus I believe it possible to change someone's sexual orientation. I have nothing against same-sex relationships, but if someone wants to change their sexual orientation for any reason, I believe there is the technology to do so. If anyone has evidence to the contrary, please feel free to send me a message with an article or something so I can be more informed. ^_^



Edit: I have played around a bit with Gmail's Scholar module, and I found a couple articles about the subject of hormones and homosexuality. While I do not personally believe that homosexuality is something that should be 'cured' like a disease as the author seems to believe, there are a number of scientifically relevant facts in the following article.

Reference Type: Journal Article
Author: Meyer-Bahlburg, Heino F. L.
Primary Title: Sex hormones and male homosexuality in comparative perspective
Journal Name: Archives of Sexual Behavior
Cover Date: 1977-07-01
Publisher: Springer Netherlands
Issn: 0004-0002
Subject: Behavioral Science
Start Page: 297
End Page: 325
Volume: 6
Issue: 4
Url: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF01541203
Doi: 10.1007/BF01541203

To be honest I have no negative opinion of them what so ever. If they choice to live that way it is up 2 them. People have no right to judge you on a choice people can sometimes not even make themselves. If we start to discriminate against these people it is a step back in time. We should have equal rights for all in this society and we should not force people to fight for rights others who are classed as straight are allowed and they are not just for a single different thing about themselves. There will always be prejudice about difference but it is not the right way and we as a race need to understand there is no difference to any other people and they need to have the same rights as others no matter what we may think of them.

Lesbians are fine by me.

Can't say I have a particular opinion of them...in theory the idea is kinky, I'm sure most men tend to find the idea intrigueing, ironic, considering the fact that...if she's into girls, she's not going to be interested in you dude. I think its entirely hilarious that a lot of guys buy into the bs that all Lesbians act like the sex craved sluts in pornographic material, I'm sure honest lesbians act more like hederosexuals do with thier partners, its nothing particularly different, excluding the obvious differences...

I don't mind lesbians. I think lesbian couples are really cute! I'm not even sure about whether I'm straight or lesbian. Sometimes I think being a lesbian is just better. But sometimes I think I just can't do it, I mean, kiss and everything with a girl. But for those who can, I'm pretty sure they can be really happy with each other, just like gay or straight couples. I like to see them all in a very normal way. :)