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ALLYMOOSE
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05-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Do you think being lesbian is viewed as being worse, the same or better than being gay in our society? A lot of people I have met think that being a lesbian is worse than being gay. I personally disagree. Discuss opinions?
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05-23-2011, 09:39 PM
I think that all sexualities should be equal, but since that's not the case... I don't know, it seems to me "lipstick lesbians" get less trouble than any kind of gay man where I'm from, but "butch" lesbians get around the same. It really sucks that every one can't just accept that people are different, and gender roles don't really have a place in the modern world where equality should reign. Ya know?
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ALLYMOOSE
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05-23-2011, 09:44 PM
I agree, I hate stereotypes.
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Protagonist
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05-23-2011, 11:10 PM
Ive never heard that before. Though it does suck when people give me looks when Im with one of my 'friends' like flirting and stuff. Its like what the fuck, stop starin.
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Ashlyn Mae
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05-23-2011, 11:44 PM
It doesn't matter to me which way or the other a person deeply loves someone else, whether it be of the same or different gender. Everyone should be the same, not seperate. Just because someone loves someone of their same gender, doesn't mean that they are wrong because of it.
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ElysiumFate
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05-24-2011, 02:15 AM
Honestly, speaking from experience, I've seen that it's far worse to be gay in society, than it is to be lesbian. For some reason people accept that women may have a reason to not find men attractive, while men have no such reason. I think it's because men are perceived as the assholes of society and women are constantly hurt by them, thus they have a reason to prefer women. *Shrugs* On the other hand, women are seen as angelic people who shit rainbows. Why wouldn't a man prefer to have a woman as a mate? :rofl: In my opinion, women are harder to get along with than men, so I don't understand this stereotype, but that's my idea for why what I stated would be so.
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Bearzy
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05-24-2011, 04:27 AM
I know that in my group of friends, my school group and whatnot it doesn't really make that much of a difference, but guys are rarer so it's not something they even think about.
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PWEEP
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05-24-2011, 05:09 AM
From where I am, being lesbian is better than being gay. Two girls together? HOT! Two guys together? EW!
It doesn't make sense to me.
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Explodey
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05-24-2011, 05:23 AM
I've noticed lesbians get a lot of shit from guys, but that's just because the guys can't have em.
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05-24-2011, 06:07 AM
i'm from the bible belt, so anything other than mainstream christian is frowned upon in my hometown.
though, i've noticed lesbians actually getting way more shit than gay guys, which is odd. there's this mentality that those "poor gay men" are screwed in the head and can't help loving other men, but for the "shameful lesbians" it's a complete choice and they're just doing it to be contrary to the proper way of things. it's so weird, i've never seen it anywhere else.
personally, i just wish people would leave well enough alone. it's like, homosexuals aren't going anywhere, you're not going to wipe them off the face of the earth by acting like a jerk to them all the time, so even if you don't approve for whatever reason just turn the other cheek and go about your frickin business.
homophobes are entitled to their opinion just like everyone else, it just bothers me when anyone tries to force said opinion on other unwilling people. :/
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05-24-2011, 06:12 AM
Society in general is more accepting of lesbians. It is harder for guys to be openly gay in most places. There's a lot more violence and hate towards two homosexual males than there is homosexual females. Personally, I get any reaction from "That's hot, you two should make out" to people harassing me because I am with another woman. I really do not understand why people have to hate what they do not understand or agree with.
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05-24-2011, 06:42 AM
I'm at a catholic school - and in RE our current study topic is "Ethics" I chose to research the church's view on homosexuality... and I can only say that some of the stuff I found is very interesting. Sites like this and similar ones actually made me laugh. Some of the stuff they say contradicts what some people spout. The catholic catechism actually admits that it's not a choice. (Though it also says that "homosexual persons are called to chastity")
However... I'm not sure how homosexuality comes under the heading "Ethics"... Ah, was that on topic or not? Ah! That's right.. I meant to talk about something the other person who was researching it found. Apparently females are more sexually "fluid" than men, able to transfer their affections from one gender to the other more easily. Perhaps that's why lesbians are more accepted? Because it seems more natural?
Of course there's always the "It's so HOT!" factor that a lot of guys judge it on.
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Projectwolfie
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05-24-2011, 12:55 PM
Unfortunately basically living in a hick town, I know here there is a double standard. Why? To be blunt, blame the porn and everyone's "gay is a sin" mentality combined into a very large amount of ignorance. Yes... I hate my small town. -.-
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I'm at a catholic school - and in RE our current study topic is "Ethics" I chose to research the church's view on homosexuality... and I can only say that some of the stuff I found is very interesting. Sites like this and similar ones actually made me laugh. Some of the stuff they say contradicts what some people spout. The catholic catechism actually admits that it's not a choice. (Though it also says that "homosexual persons are called to chastity")
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Have you heard about the translation of the bible (by some nun I think) that says homosexual individuals only need to pray really hard, can't marry, but it's OK? I found that rofl worthy.
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05-24-2011, 01:02 PM
Based off people I've met, I've found that being a lesbian is easier then being gay. Girls, from what I've seen, are generally more opening and accepting and guys can sometimes hold the ultimate double standard. For most of the guys I've met its completely okay for girls to be lesbians and they fantasize about it but when it comes to guys being gay then guys will shun/bully them. It doesn't completely make sense to me because I'm perfectly okay with lesbian or gay couples and I'm friends with a few. I don't see why sex orientation has become such a large debate. You love who you love and that's it.
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NeuzaKC
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05-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Around here, everyone is pretty much open to anything. At my College there are a few lesbian couples, and I've never seen them get treated wrong; they're very open about it too, public affection and all that. There are a few gays too, but since they don't show any affection in public and they're all very in-the-closet, I can't really know how they'd be treated if they were to be in a relationship. But honestly, around here nobody cares what you want to stick in where and to who. Cool place.
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05-24-2011, 11:08 PM
Honestly I think taht in general girls aren't bullied as much as guys are when it comes to this sort of thing. Personally I hate the double standard that seems to exist in a lot of places. It just doesn't sit right with me. Why should there be differences?
I think taht guys may find it harder and as many people have pointed out a lot of 'straight' guys will think two girls kissing is hot but two guys doing the same thing is grose. It's ridiculous. Media probably has something to do with the double-standing but on the other hand there are rare occasions that it actually helps to encourage people to be moe open.
An example of this is the science-fiction shows Doctor Who and the spin-off series Torchwood. The main character of Torchwood, Captain Jack Harkness, is bi (more like omnisexual) and the acter that plays him, John Barrowman is gay and I know for a fact that he's seen as a rolemodel for many gay/bi people accross the UK and even in America in some places.
Okay, went a little off topic there sorry.
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But I honestly think that it shouldn't matter what gender you are or what gender your chosen boyfriend/girlfriend/lover/life-partner is. The important thing is that you're comfortable with yourself and your relationship.
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05-24-2011, 11:59 PM
@Wolfie: Yeah, that's basically what the Catechism says. That by being chaste and following a relationship with god instead of a gay relationship they can reach "Christian Perfection" *snigger* Perfection? I doubt it.
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05-26-2011, 12:06 AM
I don't even disagree with the fact that being lesbian is WORSE than being gay.
Neither sexual orientations are terrible, really.. ><
I'm lesbian myself..
It's just kinda..normal to me. c;
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