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11-30-2014, 10:50 PM
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Real life is more important than time on internet, yesh.
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I just feel like people on here seem to think that it's the other way around and then act like we're making up things when we say what we've really been up to... or complain that we can't be around as much when we have things that are taking us away from being on more... It kind of upsets me when people just complain that people are busy. Well, we all have lives offline, some more so than others... and we can't be online 24/7. *sighs and crawls back into a corner*
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11-30-2014, 10:52 PM
Kitten n perderder is too cute :-)
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salvete
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11-30-2014, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudDreamer
I just feel like people on here seem to think that it's the other way around and then act like we're making up things when we say what we've really been up to... or complain that we can't be around as much when we have things that are taking us away from being on more... It kind of upsets me when people just complain that people are busy. Well, we all have lives offline, some more so than others... and we can't be online 24/7. *sighs and crawls back into a corner*
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I know Imagination says sleep is for the weak. ^_^ but he is just joking about that. And when Poppy announced that she was going on hiatus, people were like "noooooo" but that's only because they'll miss her.
So, I think most people don't mean it in a bad way. What do you think of these examples?
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CloudDreamer
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11-30-2014, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by salvete
I know Imagination says sleep is for the weak. ^_^ but he is just joking about that. And when Poppy announced that she was going on hiatus, people were like "noooooo" but that's only because they'll miss her.
So, I think most people don't mean it in a bad way. What do you think of these examples?
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Well I've been told that I don't get a say in things that involve the site - or when something comes up that everyone else seems to love but only a handful of people don't like because we are just people who lurk so therefore we shouldn't be allowed to have a say in things like this... What do you have to say about that? That they act like it's something we shouldn't be allowed to do because they seem to only think that people who post all the time are allowed to have a say in the site... but when things like that come up... it makes me not want to actually be more active... Because I feel like no matter what I try to do. It is Never enough... -.-
And what you brought up isn't what I'm talking about, it's like people who act like people shouldn't be allowed to lurk. Either you're not here, or you're posting 150%.... there is no middle ground that people are allowed to fall in.
Not that any of what I have to say matters anyways... :/
Just forget it.
Sorry I bothered you.
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11-30-2014, 11:48 PM
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Well I've been told that I don't get a say in things that involve the site - or when something comes up that everyone else seems to love but only a handful of people don't like because we are just people who lurk so therefore we shouldn't be allowed to have a say in things like this... What do you have to say about that? That they act like it's something we shouldn't be allowed to do because they seem to only think that people who post all the time are allowed to have a say in the site... but when things like that come up... it makes me not want to actually be more active... Because I feel like no matter what I try to do. It is Never enough... -.-
And what you brought up isn't what I'm talking about, it's like people who act like people shouldn't be allowed to lurk. Either you're not here, or you're posting 150%.... there is no middle ground that people are allowed to fall in.
Not that any of what I have to say matters anyways... :/
Just forget it.
Sorry I bothered you.
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I've never felt bothered by you. ^_^
I used to be a very lurker-type user. I would only be active during events and such, and even then, only the events that I knew about (since I didn't even log on unless I got an email about it). But afterward, I would try to always fill out the event feedback forms they have, and I never felt that they ignored what I wanted to say.
Now is actually the first time I have really been active when there was no event. So, it's possible that maybe I missed out on some of the examples you are referring to.
I can tell you that I personally believe any user should have a say in things that involve the site, if they don't already. For example, maybe the user spends quite a bit of time on the games :) and would be able to provide useful feedback on that part of the site. But it's also possible that, say, an older user would have more feedback than a user who just joined. Similarly, maybe their thoughts are that users who are more active would have more feedback than users who lurk.
That being said, I don't know the whole story of the specific experiences you have had. But, I do think the feedback from any user should be valued. ^_^
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CloudDreamer
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11-30-2014, 11:49 PM
Well apparently people just seem to think that what I have to say doesn't matter... so I don't even know why I try anymore. -.-
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salvete
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11-30-2014, 11:52 PM
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Well apparently people just seem to think that what I have to say doesn't matter... so I don't even know why I try anymore. -.-
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Not sure if this would make you feel better, but I think what you have to say matters. :) I think what everyone has to say matters.
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CloudDreamer
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11-30-2014, 11:55 PM
There are a few people, like yourself who seem to think so. But the majority of people just act like I'm making excuses and shouldn't be allowed to voice how I feel about things at all... *curls up in a corner* It is the majority of people who act like what I have to say on matters doesn't even count, not just online, but in person too... -.- What's the point in even trying... -.- When I'm just going to get shot down and treated like crap anyways? :/
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salvete
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12-01-2014, 12:07 AM
I find that it helps to surround myself with like-minded people. For example, I choose to hang out with friends who are on the nicer end of the spectrum ^_^
But, I understand that it can be harder for some people to do that, and some people are more or less social (or able to be social) than others. And I recall that there was a whole roommate situation going on, and sometimes it's hard to escape harmful environments.
...I went away from the keyboard in the middle of writing this post, so I kind of forgot my train of thought. But basically, I wanted to say that I think fresh starts can be super helpful, and that most people can be kind by being open-minded and trying to understand other people's situations. And I wonder if maybe they don't fully understand your situation, so they think this way.
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12-01-2014, 12:11 AM
I try to be social - and all that.... PEOPLE STILL TREAT ME LIKE CRAP... -.-
People say I should move out of where I currently am...
Just tired of people basically telling me I need to try harder... -.-
That what I'm already doing isn't enough. Typical... -.-
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12-01-2014, 12:18 AM
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I try to be social - and all that.... PEOPLE STILL TREAT ME LIKE CRAP... -.-
People say I should move out of where I currently am...
Just tired of people basically telling me I need to try harder... -.-
That what I'm already doing isn't enough. Typical... -.-
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If I remember correctly, there were some harmful roommates in your life. So, in that case, I would agree that moving out might be good. Only because maybe your next roommates will turn out to be nice people, which would be awesome. I have friends who did not get along with their roommates, but eventually moved out and found apartments with their friends. They are super happy now. I wish the same for anyone.
I disagree with the people who treat you badly.
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12-01-2014, 12:22 AM
Moving out is NOT an option... I do not have the money to live on my own. It costs an arm and a leg to live down here...... -.- So no, that is NOT an option. The only reason that I can afford to live here is I have financial aid that helps pay, and I have everything included so I don't have to pay for electric, or water, or internet etc... so no, it is not something I can do. -.- People need to realize and see things from how I see them, and realize that just because they think I should move out, it is not something I can financially do... And honestly, it is almost guaranteed that if I did have roommates if I was to move out, they'd treat me like crap too because pretty much everyone does... -.-
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12-01-2014, 12:37 AM
I see. I can understand that money is definitely an obstacle. I have never lived with roommates or by myself before, so I didn't think of that.
Any chance your roommates can or will move out in the near future?
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12-01-2014, 12:46 AM
We also are paying for my mom to go to school and same with my brother, so three of us in college at the same time, so that makes it harder financially... :/
Nope, I do not see that happening, what so ever. I know they want me to move out, which will not happen because I will not let them win. Today they got on my case about me taking off a table cloth that honestly makes the table look worse, plus it is hard to use it with the tablecloth because it's so cheep it just COMES off and it's not a good one at well... but they got on my case because "It was the third time that this has happened, and you keep taking it off..." Basically they don't care what I have to say about it... -.- Because it doesn't agree with what they think....
They told me that I need to learn to pick my battles, yet they don't do the same thing... -.- They act like I cant' do anything right - they hardly ever talk to me. But when they do talk to me... it's to corner me to treat me like crap like I can't do anything right... -.- D: I'm just so freaking over them.
If I was to get on their case it'd be about keeping the SHARED bathroom space clean... and organized. Or about needing to take out the trash more often... because they swore to me at the beginning of the semester they had a method that would make it not sit in the room and stink up the place. Heh. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore. It's been known to sit there for ages- and sorry.... I don't take out stuff that isn't mine because I don't cook - hardly ever. Now that I have food again (thanks to my parents buying me some) I will take out the trash because I'm contributing to it again...
They just act like they're the queens of the room and I need to bow to them... today when the one was getting on my case, and her repeating ehrself over and over again and her not listening to my logical explanations as to why I don't like the table cloth despite her saying that it's there for decoration.... IT DOESN'T MAKE THE TABLE EASY TO USE... -.- I just walked away and shut myself in my room because I'm sick and tired of them harping on me... -.-
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12-01-2014, 01:09 AM
How old are your roommates again?
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CloudDreamer
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12-01-2014, 01:16 AM
21 and 18 (she turned 18 in September - so she started the semester at 17) - first time away from home for both of them. Which explains why they're acting the way that they are... but it doesn't give them an excuse to treat anyone like crap... just because someone doesn't see things how they see them. -.-
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salvete
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12-01-2014, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudDreamer
21 and 18 (she turned 18 in September - so she started the semester at 17) - first time away from home for both of them. Which explains why they're acting the way that they are... but it doesn't give them an excuse to treat anyone like crap... just because someone doesn't see things how they see them. -.-
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Hmm makes you wonder if that is how they would act at home. Do their parents ever stop by?
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12-01-2014, 01:26 AM
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Hmm makes you wonder if that is how they would act at home. Do their parents ever stop by?
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One lives just as far as I do from school, so her family never comes by, and the other one lives closer but I've only seen her dad come by once. I've been told by the younger one "At home we don't do anything to disrespect anyone else in the home and we treat each other with respect." but if this is how they respect people at home... Geeze.... She's got a lot of growing up to do, both of them.
They haven't just been rude to me. We had two deaf girls over a few weekends ago, and they totally disrespected them as well (and me by dumping hosting duties on me, as if what they had planned already was more important than being like "Just letting you know. We're going out. Are you ok with staying here and letting the girls into the room this afternoon to get their stuff?" No they just left and when I basically asked them over text, as they weren't here, if they'd be back because I had things to do that required me to go out, they basically acted like what they were doing was more important and had been planned for ages... when this whole hosting of the girls had been planned for ages as well. They also kept their door shut and instead of getting up to answer it, they yelled to come in... both girls were deaf and couldn't hear them talking... And anyone I talk to who knows deaf people/culture all agrees with me that that behavior is extremely rude.
Yet they have the GUTS to call themselves deaf studies majors... -.-
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12-01-2014, 01:43 AM
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One lives just as far as I do from school, so her family never comes by, and the other one lives closer but I've only seen her dad come by once. I've been told by the younger one "At home we don't do anything to disrespect anyone else in the home and we treat each other with respect." but if this is how they respect people at home... Geeze.... She's got a lot of growing up to do, both of them.
They haven't just been rude to me. We had two deaf girls over a few weekends ago, and they totally disrespected them as well (and me by dumping hosting duties on me, as if what they had planned already was more important than being like "Just letting you know. We're going out. Are you ok with staying here and letting the girls into the room this afternoon to get their stuff?" No they just left and when I basically asked them over text, as they weren't here, if they'd be back because I had things to do that required me to go out, they basically acted like what they were doing was more important and had been planned for ages... when this whole hosting of the girls had been planned for ages as well. They also kept their door shut and instead of getting up to answer it, they yelled to come in... both girls were deaf and couldn't hear them talking... And anyone I talk to who knows deaf people/culture all agrees with me that that behavior is extremely rude.
Yet they have the GUTS to call themselves deaf studies majors... -.-
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I'm confused why they would choose to major in deaf studies if they do not feel compassion towards deaf people (according to your description). Of course, I am no expert on deaf culture. But, based on your description I do agree that there are more courteous ways to welcome and communicate with deaf people -- and people in general whom you host at your place as guests.
On the positive side of things, it is very kind of you to go out of your way to help others and very responsible of you to manage the situations you described.
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12-01-2014, 02:02 AM
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I'm confused why they would choose to major in deaf studies if they do not feel compassion towards deaf people (according to your description). Of course, I am no expert on deaf culture. But, based on your description I do agree that there are more courteous ways to welcome and communicate with deaf people -- and people in general whom you host at your place as guests.
On the positive side of things, it is very kind of you to go out of your way to help others and very responsible of you to manage the situations you described.
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Exactly!! That's exactly how I feel too - and EVERYONE else who I tell about how they acted seem to say too. All variations of this sure, but this is the gist of what people say.  But eh, they'll get what they have coming soon - in a way I hope that the roommate who moves in in January (have no idea who it'll be) is deaf so they learn from them what it's truly like to live with someone who's deaf.
Yeah - I just hate that people assume that I'll always be there even when i do have things I need to do. :/ I'm not going to act like the immature one even if they act immature. I just want people to treat me with respect - they say they want to be treated like adults, but with how they're acting, they're like children.
Today, when one of them was getting on my case... I turned and walked away after she repeated the same thing... FOR THE FOURTH TIME... and walked into my bedroom and shut the door. I refuse to be treated this way and if this is how they're going to talk to me, I will not just stand there and let them treat me this way.
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12-01-2014, 02:05 AM
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Exactly!! That's exactly how I feel too - and EVERYONE else who I tell about how they acted seem to say too. All variations of this sure, but this is the gist of what people say.  But eh, they'll get what they have coming soon - in a way I hope that the roommate who moves in in January (have no idea who it'll be) is deaf so they learn from them what it's truly like to live with someone who's deaf.
Yeah - I just hate that people assume that I'll always be there even when i do have things I need to do. :/ I'm not going to act like the immature one even if they act immature. I just want people to treat me with respect - they say they want to be treated like adults, but with how they're acting, they're like children.
Today, when one of them was getting on my case... I turned and walked away after she repeated the same thing... FOR THE FOURTH TIME... and walked into my bedroom and shut the door. I refuse to be treated this way and if this is how they're going to talk to me, I will not just stand there and let them treat me this way. 
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I hope you will be able to develop a good relationship with your new roommate. ^_^ Do you know anything about her yet? How old she is, where she is from, what she likes to do, et cetera? Hopefully you two will have a lot in common and hit it off :)
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12-01-2014, 02:06 AM
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I hope you will be able to develop a good relationship with your new roommate. ^_^ Do you know anything about her yet? How old she is, where she is from, what she likes to do, et cetera? Hopefully you two will have a lot in common and hit it off :)
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I have NO idea who will be moving in... Or anything about them... -.-
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12-01-2014, 02:07 AM
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I have NO idea who will be moving in... Or anything about them... -.-
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Ah, okay. Still hoping that you two will become friends, though :) and that she (or he? is that possible?) is mature and will help take over some of the responsibilities ^_^
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12-01-2014, 02:09 AM
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Ah, okay. Still hoping that you two will become friends, though :) and that she (or he? is that possible?) is mature and will help take over some of the responsibilities ^_^
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It'll have to be a girl. They don't allow co-ed rooms. At this rate - I'm highly doubtful that they will be. Most people I room with tend to not be - in 8 years of dorming, hardly any of them have been mature.
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12-01-2014, 02:23 AM
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It'll have to be a girl. They don't allow co-ed rooms. At this rate - I'm highly doubtful that they will be. Most people I room with tend to not be - in 8 years of dorming, hardly any of them have been mature.
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Sometimes you get lucky :)
Is there any way to find out who the person is, before she moves in? I ask because maybe you two can have time to hang out and be friends beforehand ^_^
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