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Menelaus
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05-16-2015, 02:31 PM
lol, you'd be surprized at just how 'undead' the Latin language really is. to a college course offered in the classics curriculum of modern higher education, Latin undeniably endures. I've no interest in speaking Latin myself, I'm English and as thus believe that everyone else in the world should speak English too. but the language's history, now that piques my interests. so I feel obliged to add to what has already been said about it (and to highlight some common misconceptions too). Latin has survived in one form or another for over twenty seven hundred years, from a language spoken by the Romans (who conquered most of the known Western world) as both the cognate and parent of many many many modern languages. the onus is on the Roman Empire, who's influence has spread throughout the world, via art, poetry, music, literature, and architecture. lol, there isn't a modern nation today which hasn't benefited from the ingenuity of that civilization, which at one time spanned from Northern Africa to the white Dover cliffs of the British Isles. and of course, culture doesn't easily spread without communication, or more specifically, that necessary link to the human exchange of knowledge called language. like all/most languages, Latin’s life stretches back beyond pre-history, its actual origins forever lost (some believe it to be derived from ancient Greek, but there are no definitive foundings in the claim) but what is known about Latin survives in a sporadic collection of writings that only hint at the language’s rich history. picture the scene, its the salad years of the first millennium B.C., the entire Italian peninsula is subject to a tangled sausage string of aggressive negotiations in which a multitude of cultures wage war for supremacy. the ebb and flow of certain factions’ strength make a lasting impression on the peninsula and influence the beginnings of Roman history to the extent that Latin almost surely would have perished had certain powers not won out over their rivals (eg, Romans vs Sabines, the conflict in which the foundations of the romans as a people were established). the language finds its home in the Italic family of the centum branch of Indo-European languages, nestled snugly among a multitude of languages and dialects. French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and Romanian are some of the modern Romance languages that owe their origin to Latin. and because of the huge number of English words with both direct and indirect Latin origins, English is often 'mistaken' for a Romance language. but English is in fact Germanic in origin (its Indo-European origin is shared by German, Dutch, Low German, Afrikaans, Norwegian, Danish, Swedish, Icelandic, and Faroese. also, at one time, Gothic, Burgundian, and Vandalic, all of which are now extinct) and was later influenced by Latin, Old Norse, and Anglo-Norman French. many Latin scholars disagree on the beginning and ending dates for the different periods in the language’s history, but Latin can be broken down into seven periods with approximate dates:
Old Latin (origin - 75 B.C.)
Classic Latin (75 B.C.E. - 200 A.D.)
Vulgar Latin (200 - 900)
Medieval Latin (900 - 1300)
Renaissance Latin (1300 - 1500)
New Latin (1500 - Present)
Contemporary Latin (1900 - Present)
modern Latin (the one which is most often used today) is mainly based on the classical period, a period noted for the important works of Caesar, Cicero, Augustus and other prominent authors of the time. I could go on but I find that when I talk history, people often fall asleep, so I won't
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05-16-2015, 02:55 PM
Wow. Latin sounds like an amazing language....
I didn't know that anyone knew it except Catholic people, though.
I don't know very much about foreign languages. The closest I got was when I spent my entire middle school years in French class and I got 120% in that class because I was always doing extra credit because I loved it so much. But then when I got to high school I only did one year of French and after that I had to drop it because I took my classes at an online high school and that school didn't offer French class.
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05-16-2015, 03:13 PM
lol, most scientists, lawyers etc have to learn Latin because most of their trade was/is compiled from the language (eg, plant names, animal names, chemical names, mathematical terms, law terms such as 'affidavit' and much more) but as a real language ie, used by a nation, it doesn't directly exist. have you ever thought about picking up French again?
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05-16-2015, 03:27 PM
Huh. That is interesting. :o
I have thought about taking up French again, I've tried using online courses that teach French, but it's nothing like having an actual teacher to teach it to you and assign you assignments and things. I still have a lot of my French worksheets and workbooks, but they are plum useless now because they don't teach anything, just test. :c
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05-16-2015, 03:28 PM
And I thought I was getting too wall-of-texty.
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05-16-2015, 03:34 PM
Yeah, right, Amane?????
I was like, "Woah. Big wall of text!"
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05-16-2015, 03:38 PM
French kids were so serene. They always sold us their French candy.
Also, I'm an American, famed for being the epitome of lazy and selfish, yet I'm in love with Latin. In fact, I'd love to be fluent in a trillion languages. Step up your game, Boxman. *thumps with ruler*
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05-16-2015, 04:02 PM
I love the idea of being fluent in other languages.
But, I am lazy. I might feel more compelled to learn if I had someone actually teaching me instead of having to rely on internet sites to learn.
I want my children to be fluent in another language.
My parents wanted the same for me, as they bought me tons of those CD-ROMs that taught foreign language. (You know, those 90s kid's CD-ROM games?! Like Jumpstart?!) And I learned Spanish and French at an early age, but never enough to really understand it.
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05-16-2015, 04:30 PM
lol, we English never learn a new language when visiting a non-English speaking country, we just speak ssslooooowwwlyyy and LOUDER!! because clearly they didn't understand us because of the speed and tone of our speech
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05-16-2015, 06:54 PM
There are plenty of us who do that in America as well.
I have 38572 educational computer games. None for foreign languages, though.
I was never one to want to learn Spanish because it's too popular of a choice.
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05-16-2015, 07:24 PM
wow, do you have 77144 hands too, how do you play that many anything, and why don't you know everything yet? lol, you should learn to speak Russian, its a stern yet passionate language. *Russian slurr* "dasvidaniya tovarich" is the sweetest goodbye you'll ever hear
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05-16-2015, 07:30 PM
It's funny because I was going to specifically name Russian as a language I want to learn.
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05-16-2015, 07:37 PM
you should go for it. lol, I'm reminded of John Cleese's scene in A Fish Called Wanda, where he performs a comedic striptease for Jamie Lee Curtis, while reciting something totally out of context in Russian
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05-16-2015, 07:39 PM
Nah, I need further motivation than that. Like K-pop to learn Korean.
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05-16-2015, 07:43 PM
lol, don't worry, his efforts were rewarded with a gun barrel in the face at the hands of a jealous Kevin Kline
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05-16-2015, 07:48 PM
Calvin Klein.
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05-16-2015, 08:05 PM
lol, the actor, not the underpants. ones Calvin, the other's Kevin, no relation
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05-16-2015, 08:10 PM
Definitely Calvin Klein.
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05-16-2015, 08:18 PM
lol, Calvin Klein is underpants, and Kevin Kline is an actor. while the underpants did play a supporting roll in the original Back to the Future movie, they are not one and the same. Kevin was the husband in the movie I Love You To Death, whereas underpants are not equipped to eat that much spaghetti and meatballs in one sitting
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05-16-2015, 08:27 PM
I love underpants.
Is it common for people to wear underwear to bed?
I've always worn panties to bed and apparently it's not common to do that according to Wikipedia.
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05-16-2015, 09:16 PM
lol, more Wiki-lies. its more probable that its a preference thing rather than a social norm thing. I personally am team undies in bed, as are alot of people I know. but I also know some people who wear nothing, and alot of other people who wear pyjamas. its all down to the individual
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05-16-2015, 10:20 PM
I grew up with my grandmother...who instructed me to keep my panties on, under my nightgown, when I went to bed....but she would slip her granny-boxers off and hang them on the bedpost for quick replacement, should she need to get up during the night...though she always wore a nightgown to bed and nobody would know if she had em on or not!
To this day, I don't sleep well naked. I wear sweats and a t-shirt to bed....even in the summer!
My BF, however, sleeps naked....even when we were living homeless in the motorhome during minus 35 degree temps, he still slept naked under the covers!
Everybody is different!
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05-16-2015, 10:35 PM
I sleep nude. Think I started sleeping this way when I got my 1st apartment when I was 19. I mostly walk around nude at home also.
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05-17-2015, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ava The Vampire
I've always worn panties to bed and apparently it's not common to do that according to Wikipedia.
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THE FACE I JUST MADE.
God. There are two things my bed is definitely 1000000% not for. Wearing "out" clothes and wearing NO clothes.
I wear my underwear to bed like it's my religion. Not the upper half because I detest that. Don't get me started on that. Notice I won't even name it. It's another one of those. *smiles*
But I wear a shirt and pants as well. Walking around clothed is a necessity for me.
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05-17-2015, 07:38 PM
Yeah, I can't see how some people can even sleep in their street clothes!
LIKE. NO. I'd feel so disgusting if I did that. D:
It's interesting what everyone wears (or doesn't wear) to sleep.
I usually wear a shirt and panties to bed and then if it's cold, I'll pile a ton of blankets on myself. Or I'll wear actual one piece pajamas.
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