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Old 12-19-2016, 05:41 PM

Im a metalhead in need of a bar job?!

Haha, i saw Ammeh mention metal + dubstep. Skrillex did a couple of dubstep covers of Korn songs you might be interested in.

Or try industrial metal, they use a lot more electronic sounds than most metal bands =3

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#377
Old 12-19-2016, 05:42 PM

Ava: Well, um, there songs are some hardcore stuff then they have some other not so hardcore stuff. Babymetal is a mix aka they're diverse.

A fine mix of pop metal and good ol' metal.

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Old 12-19-2016, 05:42 PM

Doesnt the guitarist of dragonforce still play with babymetal? He's got skillzzz

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#379
Old 12-19-2016, 05:50 PM

Yeah, the DF guitarists helped with Road of Resistance.

Such a beast song too.

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Old 12-19-2016, 06:15 PM

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Haha, i saw Ammeh mention metal + dubstep. Skrillex did a couple of dubstep covers of Korn songs you might be interested in.
A K-pop idol sang one. That was a great time. He had a really soft and sweet image at the time and everyone thought we were trolling when we talked about it.

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Old 12-19-2016, 06:38 PM

I just think Babymetal is too mainstream to be considered metal.

Just because they are influenced by metal bands doesn't make their metal more metal.

Bands like Metallica aren't cutesy and adorable. They are serious metal.

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Old 12-19-2016, 07:11 PM

I just can't look at music so deeply.

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Old 12-19-2016, 07:45 PM

Maybe that's my problem...

I like music that I can dissect and analyze. I don't like a lot of mainstream music because it feels so empty to me. I like music with hidden messages and hidden meanings that no one else can hear with the naked ear. I like music that makes you think and feel.

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Old 12-19-2016, 08:15 PM

I feel like everyone is like that except for me. That's cool n' all, but I'm only looking for something that's good on the surface.

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Old 12-19-2016, 11:20 PM

Ava, you sound like the person who doesn't like any specific type of music because of specific associations like how publicized it is and how many people hear it.

It sounds like me when I was a younger teenager. It's a really dumb mindset.

Also, I wouldn't consider Babymetal mainstream. Maybe mainstream for Japan but internationally they're a small blip that is growing.

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Old 12-19-2016, 11:29 PM

*imagines Ava dragging K-pop so hard*

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Old 12-19-2016, 11:35 PM

Also, the idea of Babymetal being cute and adorable as a disqaulifer of them not being serious metal is so shallow it hurts.

Do they have to fit into certain archetypes to be metal? Why? So you can shut out something different because you don't like it?

So to summarize: Babymetal is not mainstream outside of Japan and them being adorable girls doesn't disqualify them from not being metal.

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Old 12-20-2016, 12:20 AM

Saying Babymetal is a metal band is like saying tomatoes are a vegetable.

I get it, they taste like vegetables, look like vegetables, are used like vegetables, but they aren't vegetables.

According to Wikipedia and even Google, Babymetal does not fall under the same category.

I feel like Babymetal is like an introduction to metal for people who aren't into heavy metal or who don't know any of the real heavy metal bands. It's like a nice introduction to Japan to experience "American" metal.

They're basically just a tribute band, really.

---------- Post added 12-19-2016 at 07:26 PM ----------

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"Babymetal (stylized as BABYMETAL) is a Japanese metal idol band"
Even Wikipedia says it. They are an "idol band".
Which means that they aren't an actual metal band. More like a tribute band.

My point is proven.

---------- Post added 12-19-2016 at 07:27 PM ----------

AND AGAIN!!!

Quote:
"This band was created for the demographic of “Music that your Japanese Boyfriend/Girlfriend, who doesn’t really like Metal, would enjoy.”

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Old 12-20-2016, 12:34 AM

Links Wikipedia, conveniently ignores the fact they're a metal band.

LOL.

---------- Post added 12-19-2016 at 07:37 PM ----------

I've never seen such desperation to prove they're not metal when they're linking something that blatantly calls them metal.

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#390
Old 12-20-2016, 12:41 AM

They're like... faux metal. If that.

Seriously, I've never heard of any actual metal fans say they like Babymetal.

It's even in the band's description, they were made for people who clearly don't like metal.

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Kind of like saying that Skrillex is a composer and than having the gall to compare him to Mozart.

There is no comparison!

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#391
Old 12-20-2016, 12:45 AM

Faux metal isn't a thing. They're either metal or they're not.



Ironically, you say it's for people who don't like metal but Rob Halford and many other heavy metal legends support them and love them.

I like metal. I fell out of metal. I used to listen to alot of Judas Priest, Metallica, etc. It's for everyone.

You sound so much like the goth kids from South Park that it's kind of embarrassing.

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Old 12-20-2016, 12:48 AM

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Faux metal isn't a thing. They're either metal or they're not.



Ironically, you say it's for people who don't like metal but Rob Halford and many other heavy metal legends support them and love them.

I like metal. I fell out of metal. I used to listen to alot of Judas Priest, Metallica, etc. It's for everyone.

You sound so much like the goth kids from South Park that it's kind of embarrassing.
Clearly if someone idolized me and wanted to get better at MY craft, I'd support them too.

Just because they support and love them doesn't make them any more legit in metal. They aren't the same as the heavy metal bands out there. Why can't you just admit that they are different and really cannot be put in the same class as the other metal bands?

That's like claiming that Tim Burton's art should be in museums with Georgia O'Keeffe simply because they both paint.

It's not at all the same.

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I'm quite honestly surprised that anyone would even claim that Babymetal is metal and then have the gall to put them up there with the greats.

I get it, they are cute, they are sort of metal...
But they are in no way, shape or form even on the same pedestal as the old time metal bands.

I wouldn't tell you that Taylor Swift is the greatest of all country stars and deserves to be called country. (When she clearly isn't anymore)

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#393
Old 12-20-2016, 12:57 AM

Wow, Ava. You're literally discrediting legends in the industry. People with decades in the metal world.

You're building a metaphorical wall and the Japanese are going to have to pay for it.

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Old 12-20-2016, 12:58 AM

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Kind of like saying that Skrillex is a composer and than having the gall to compare him to Mozart.
Wait, I can't do that? Skrillex is a fabulously popular wubstep man, and Mozart is a fabulously popular classical man…
/Amane the grown-ups are talking

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#395
Old 12-20-2016, 01:06 AM

Also we're done discussing this.

Ava got demoted from Second In Command to Metal Shamer.

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Old 12-20-2016, 01:07 AM

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*imagines Ava dragging K-pop so hard*
I would easily drag K-Pop into the ground.


@APBCole

Personally, if I have to be honest, I don't like Japanese music anymore.
Not unless it's something original. Like Visual Kei or J-Rock.

Babymetal is a band made for people who don't like metal. That as the demographic they were made for. Just because people who like metal may like Babymetal doesn't make them any less of a tribute band.

Unfortunately, you're not going to be able to convince me that Babymetal should be on the same level as Metallica, AC/DC or even Twisted Sister.

So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Old 12-20-2016, 01:13 AM

Yeah, I know you would. It makes me glad I'm not critical.

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#398
Old 12-20-2016, 01:13 AM

Amane, you up for being promoted to Second In Command of this bar?

You are less horrible of a person than Ava. We need chaotic neutrals. Not chaotic evils.

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Old 12-20-2016, 01:16 AM

Lol.

Well, I will go and be chaotic evil on my own, then.

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Old 12-20-2016, 01:16 AM

I'd say I'm a crazy neutral. Let's see how much damage I can do in a position like that.

 



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