But lets be real - the "appeal" of gold by posting in the forums doesn't seem like it's too appealing anymore...considering the lack of actual posting that's actually being done.....So even if Discord didn't give gold...people STILL wouldn't bother to post in the forums simply because Discord doesn't give gold. There needs to be an actual draw TO MENE...not a separate chat service.

So SOMEHOW...Mene needs to become more appealing.

Maria - The ideal route would be a mobile friendly app, which if you look up, the math is not in our favor.
Costs thousands of dollars.

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Zig - Lets take into account the old community thread which is located in the hangout forum.

this thread reached 99 pages since 2013. 2,500 or so posts in total. 625 posts per year, and about 3 posts every 2 days (1.7 per day).
The global thread hangout did not succeed.

Now lets look at hummy's thread as she is very well known as an active thread owner.
This thread has 17,000 posts since 2015. 8,500 per year, and about 23 posts per day. That is 13 times more activity than a community encouraged thread. It simply doesn't survive. Even with that gold incentive, which if I remember right ended up being years late as well.
Even my Disabilities and Differences thread which has over 5 years been rather slow, still reaches 8.5 posts per day. Around 5 times more activity than the community hangout.

Unless you can bring in some serious hype for that thread the activity will die out and you'll have another slow thread.

Hummy puts great effort into her thread activity. Unafraid to use the dreaded ping to summon whoever pleases her.

The person that originally created that hangout sadly isn't around. Jelly. So I think it really bums people out to post in it. At least it does for me.

In order to have a thread like Hummy staff would have to put that same amount of effort. Even then that's not even a page a day.

all this math
I like to post in it because I remember how dedicated jelly was to activity.
I like thinking about her and miss her less. I get attached to people *shrugs*
the idea of the gold being given to a random poster was a brilliant one, I think.

Poet~~activity is activity. if it is slow but still active, so be it.
I have been know to talk to myself when It is slow

Hummy - True, but for trying to give a good way to be able to chat with all of your friends, and keep users from taking such long hiatus, we would need to be more accessible.

there is not an 'easy' fix.
avatar sites are fading.
social media is easier.

it will take work <3

Because for one, they are all mobile accessible. Using a mobile browser while I've gotten used to it, it is a pain. Not something a new user will ever bother to use.

If something happens to a user's computer very few of them switch to mobile, many just disappear.

We lack convenience. It's far too easy for active users to take a hiatus and just simply not find time to come back.

Honestly, a major reason why I left for years is lack of a mobile friendly app/browser. I did not have access to wifi and it was really hard for me even to get to a computer. Using the browser on my phone is such a pain and it's nearly impossible to change my avatar on mobile.

I've also noticed that while Mene have over 100,000 users that only a few hundred are actually active. There needs to be a way to keep people's interest and make them WANT to stay. The problem is that Mene has such a small userbase that it's hard to find an active thread to actually chat in.

There needs to be a way to get new users and keep them active. I'm not too sure how to accomplish this though.

Originally Posted by Mystic

Honestly, a major reason why I left for years is lack of a mobile friendly app/browser. I did not have access to wifi and it was really hard for me even to get to a computer. Using the browser on my phone is such a pain and it's nearly impossible to change my avatar on mobile.

I've also noticed that while Mene have over 100,000 users that only a few hundred are actually active. There needs to be a way to keep people's interest and make them WANT to stay. The problem is that Mene has such a small userbase that it's hard to find an active thread to actually chat in.

There needs to be a way to get new users and keep them active. I'm not too sure how to accomplish this though.

Shoot. If Mene had a few hundred active users, this thread would not exist.

315 Active Members

Assume 30% of those are mules. We have 200 active users. That's not much. If every one of those bought a CI each month mene still probably couldn't break even on income.

Originally Posted by The Wandering Poet

Assume 30% of those are mules. We have 200 active users. That's not much. If every one of those bought a CI each month mene still probably couldn't break even on income.

Exactly what I was thinking about the mules. It really is a shame that people either don't post more or aren't active in enough different threads to make the few hundred that are here feel like more.

Yeah, the lack of activity is really a drag.
I still think Mene rebranding itself is the best bet, but that costs money.

Mystic - I try to, but the more active I get the more likely I am to make a socially awkward hiccup, and slow my activity down again.

Rebranding how monstahh?

Originally Posted by The Wandering Poet

Assume 30% of those are mules. We have 200 active users. That's not much. If every one of those bought a CI each month mene still probably couldn't break even on income.

Going back to June in the most frequented Menewsha Hangouts, a few pages of the most frequented Commercial District threads, and the General Discussion/Extended Discussion threads, I counted 91 different current users.

My criteria for being counted as a "current" member user requires having logged on Menewsha since June. Members such as Siipu and Wish were counted even though their appearances or posts have been infrequent and unsustained over the past year.

Use of mule accounts occur mostly during events, and so to the best of my knowledge, I have counted no mules. Symphony of the Night and Granny pink are the most commonly used mules for general posting. Also, it is widely known Futtetwacken and Utopia belong to Roachi so those two accounts were not counted.

Those 91 counted are those who maintain a consistent posting presence where I believe Menewshans frequent most such as the afforementioned Commercial District, General Discussion, and Hangouts.

I do not know what criteria needs to be met in order for this site to count a member as an active member, but my opinion is that logging on fewer than once every two months should disqualify one as an active member. Feel free to disagree with my cutoff point, but a cutoff point must be made.

I would agree the activity is a bit misleading.

Does all of that include roleplayers?

Originally Posted by The Wandering Poet

Rebranding how monstahh?

A new layout, some updates to the infrastructure of the site (maybe making it so we can finally see past trades?), a major update to rules that makes this site less intimidating, less forums but more content for each forum to work with (except the few that are already really cluttered). Maybe a secret forum would be cool too. You get in if you're a really good poster (don't cause problems and post a lot) or maybe for adults only (but you'd have to find a way to verify that...you could possibly charge for that forum too, I'm sure people would pay).

New taglines for forums? Maybe implementing hashtags somehow? Just a rework. People are often willing to give something old another try if it seems different.
A lot of people have come and gone on this site and I think right now mene is having a problem even *retaining* members, and I also feel most of the ones who are here, probably wouldn't leave if there were changes, unless there became some functionality issues.

Speaking of functionality issues, did they ever fix the various avatar bugs? Like when dressing your avatar stuff gets knocked off and then you have to take the item off and stuff or it just sits there like its being used? lol

No that bug is still there.

Menewsha is doing a lot of that redoing of the forums right now actually. But anything that requires heavy coding costs money and menewsha isn't making any money. We are kept alive by the grace of the admin alone last I heard.

You make a good point about the rules and it's been mentioned. It desperately needs revised and I feel the staff don't allow us to help enough in that regard. As their community we can work with them on what rules are outdated and what rules are too strict.

I got curious about menewsha roleplay activity and we have less than 30 roleplays active as of this month. Every other roleplay has been inactive for over 2 weeks.
That was our selling point and it's pretty much dead. We need a new selling point as I can't confidently tell someone they will be able to find a partner who actually replies.

Originally Posted by The Wandering Poet

I would agree the activity is a bit misleading.

Does all of that include roleplayers?

No. Just those with a noticeable presence. Some folks come here and are nearly invisible.

I see. I edited in some info about roleplays to add to your statistics. I think I counted 27 active roleplays.

Originally Posted by The Wandering Poet

No that bug is still there.

Menewsha is doing a lot of that redoing of the forums right now actually. But anything that requires heavy coding costs money and menewsha isn't making any money. We are kept alive by the grace of the admin alone last I heard.

You make a good point about the rules and it's been mentioned. It desperately needs revised and I feel the staff don't allow us to help enough in that regard. As their community we can work with them on what rules are outdated and what rules are too strict.

I got curious about menewsha roleplay activity and we have less than 30 roleplays active as of this month. Every other roleplay has been inactive for over 2 weeks.
That was our selling point and it's pretty much dead. We need a new selling point as I can't confidently tell someone they will be able to find a partner who actually replies.

Yeah that's what I said, in my first post, that it would probably cost a lot of money.

I hope the staff are thinking of revising them, I know they said they were reading the thread and keeping tabs on it but...well thats one of the big issues. This site is very strict in a lot of ways.
The only rule I don't think we should change is limiting to 1 mule or two accounts. Since you can purchase event items with currency there's really no need to make mules to get extra, just post more and buy extra. Yknow?


I wish I felt like roleplaying but all the energy to think up a story I want to play is just too rough for my brain right now....x.x

What menewsha really lacks I feel is reliable staffing systems. I remember back when it was young mods and admins alike would chat and interact with users quite a lot. Now it seems very sparse save for just a few. Most times we get new mods and we never get to talk to them after that cause they are busy.

I think the staff is spread thin, both online and IRL. :( People keep leaving because of real life commitments and stuff I think. We need a reason for them to come here instead of facebook or twitter.

That is exactly the point. Other social media is more appealing even likely to the staff.
Well... yan has a baby but other than that.

What frustrates me is how little we can help :(
I want to help more...

I wish I could help more too.

if I had gotten a generic visa giftcard for my birthday I was gonna spend it on mene and a game I play....instead I got an amazon giftcard >__o
Maybe if mene took more options for payment? Maybe like, Amazon Pay? *winkwink*

As for what users can do, I think the best thing we can do is try to be active and give suggestions and support the staff.