-hugs Suona- How long is your all day? Mine is from 11-5, plus time in there for driving. Hopefully yours is not too terribly long!

Originally Posted by Suona

People act the same way about putting their kids on ledges that go into exhibits. They're always like "Well, I'm just putting them here to see." Bitch, you take your eyes off that kid for a second and they're in there. I don't want my animals in jeoparady because your dumb ass is too lazy to hold your kid. And when your kid falls in and the animal has them, you'll be the one screaming "Someone save my baby!" but you'll never take the blame for your mistake.

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I am reminded of Harambe now...do you remember the gorilla who was shot dead because a child got into the exhibit?

Originally Posted by dragoness129

So sad that I have to work tomorrow and cannot peek on my phone except for maybe the first and last hour of it. Thankfully it won't be too long away.

We'll be sad to not have you for that time, but you will hopefully be here in the evening?

Originally Posted by Suona

People act the same way about putting their kids on ledges that go into exhibits. They're always like "Well, I'm just putting them here to see." Bitch, you take your eyes off that kid for a second and they're in there. I don't want my animals in jeoparady because your dumb ass is too lazy to hold your kid. And when your kid falls in and the animal has them, you'll be the one screaming "Someone save my baby!" but you'll never take the blame for your mistake.

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Naturally they won't take responsibility for their actions because it's much easier to blame someone else for the mistake. Just the society we live in now. Like how we have to put a fucking warning on everything because somewhere in the world someone ironed their clothes while wearing them. Apparently hot water and heated metal can cause some damage to your skin... who knew.

I remember that movie! It was funny indeed. I think it was playing fairly recently on something. My memory sucks, lol.

Netflix had it on there for a time, but it has since been removed, if I am not mistaken.

And if I lose on another two, so help me! Chance's head will roll.

Originally Posted by salvete

I think people used to kill and mistreat animals way more than we do now

Poaching is still very, very prevalent these days and extremely cruel. Just look up rhinos that have been dehorned and left to slowly bleed to death. Or the thousands of pangolins that are caught up and shoved in cages where they usually die in transportation. Animals are still tortured, and treated very cruely. It just is very rarely in the news. It's especially evident in what people do to dogs.


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Originally Posted by Queen_Andais

Would make sure my windows are locked so no one could accidentally roll down the window when a big kitty came up to the car to investigate what the hell is invading its space.

oh definitely. windows, car doors, sun roof, everything needs to be sealed shut.

I think there is a money factor because the zoos need money to care for their animals, but I imagine a lot of their income comes from families bringing their children to see these animals

Queenie - Yep, I will be back sometime after dinner. Not sure what I will make though.

Yeah, it might have been Netflix.

Originally Posted by Suona

Poaching is still very, very prevalent these days and extremely cruel. Just look up rhinos that have been dehorned and left to slowly bleed to death. Or the thousands of pangolins that are caught up and shoved in cages where they usually die in transportation. Animals are still tortured, and treated very cruely. It just is very rarely in the news. It's especially evident in what people do to dogs.


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that is so sad.

what do people do to dogs that you are referring to?

What! I just lost Chance to a two on all accounts! How does that happen? T_T

sorry to hear that dragoness D: chance is ebil sometimes

It's usually not that evil though. Usually it is pretty good.

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Originally Posted by dragoness129

-hugs Suona- How long is your all day? Mine is from 11-5, plus time in there for driving. Hopefully yours is not too terribly long!

Work day is from 8-5, with an only 15 minute commute. Just long days due to the physical work. I love my work, though.

Originally Posted by salvete

I am reminded of Harambe now...do you remember the gorilla who was shot dead because a child got into the exhibit?

Oh yes, I very much so remember Harambe. The mother was entirely at fault, and the gorilla was barely doing anything and was shot dead because of it. Gorillas are one of the most gentle, sweet, and loving primates. Even though they are portrayed as extremely violent because of the male silverbacks, they are not like that. They are not rage filled animals that want to kill everything. They CAN if they wanted to, but they don't go out of their way to be violent like some animals might. Chimps come to mind.

Originally Posted by Queen_Andais

Naturally they won't take responsibility for their actions because it's much easier to blame someone else for the mistake. Just the society we live in now. Like how we have to put a fucking warning on everything because somewhere in the world someone ironed their clothes while wearing them. Apparently hot water and heated metal can cause some damage to your skin... who knew.

Netflix had it on there for a time, but it has since been removed, if I am not mistaken.

And if I lose on another two, so help me! Chance's head will roll.

They never take responsiblity. People don't want to believe they are ever wrong. So much easier to point the finger at someone else.

People are greedy, self-absorbed, sue-happy, selfish creatures. Terrible, terrible creatures.

What?! I had no idea. I'll look it up on there now.

Right??!! Those 2's are eviiiilll


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Originally Posted by dragoness129

It's usually not that evil though. Usually it is pretty good.

I agree. I usually have good luck with chance, but not always

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Originally Posted by Suona

Oh yes, I very much so remember Harambe. The mother was entirely at fault, and the gorilla was barely doing anything and was shot dead because of it. Gorillas are one of the most gentle, sweet, and loving primates. Even though they are portrayed as extremely violent because of the male silverbacks, they are not like that. They are not rage filled animals that want to kill everything. They CAN if they wanted to, but they don't go out of their way to be violent like some animals might. Chimps come to mind.

well I think it was the zookeepers who decided to shoot harambe. Not that he would purposely kill a child, but that he might accidentally kill the child. So I imagine they are the most informed possible people to make that decision, at least.

Suona - Ah, that is still 8 hours of work. But I am glad you love what you do! ^_^
Sal - Yeah, sometimes it just doesn't want anyone to win.

Originally Posted by Suona

Poaching is still very, very prevalent these days and extremely cruel. Just look up rhinos that have been dehorned and left to slowly bleed to death. Or the thousands of pangolins that are caught up and shoved in cages where they usually die in transportation. Animals are still tortured, and treated very cruely. It just is very rarely in the news. It's especially evident in what people do to dogs.


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That shit with the Rhinos is enough that I want to chop off the poachers dicks and watch them slowly bleed to death, only seems fair.

Originally Posted by salvete

oh definitely. windows, car doors, sun roof, everything needs to be sealed shut.

I think there is a money factor because the zoos need money to care for their animals, but I imagine a lot of their income comes from families bringing their children to see these animals

There are some that consider zoos to be inhumane since you are keeping large animals in small enclosures that are not native for them.

Originally Posted by dragoness129

Queenie - Yep, I will be back sometime after dinner. Not sure what I will make though.

Yeah, it might have been Netflix.

Not sure what to make for dinner tomorrow either, got plenty of things to make. Can't seem to determine what I am hungry for...

Originally Posted by salvete

that is so sad.

what do people do to dogs that you are referring to?

People do some cruel things to dogs, make them fight each other to the death. Chain them up, beat them, starve them. The list of abuses heaped on dogs is truly disgusting and disheartening to see. Dogs just want people to love them and take care of them.

Originally Posted by dragoness129

What! I just lost Chance to a two on all accounts! How does that happen? T_T

Lost two times in a row on a two and then on a four. Chance is just being a prick today.

Originally Posted by salvete

that is so sad.

what do people do to dogs that you are referring to?

Far more than I could ever address. Dog fights, physical abuse, emotional abuse, abandoning them, starving them, depriving them of water, tying them outside on a lead in the sun, leaving them tied up so long that the chain grows into their neck, I could go on and on. I have seen so many stories online from dog rescues, and I worked at a humane society for some time. You see the worse side of people, and it is very, very ugly. How someone could do anything to such loving, and loyal animals as dogs is beyond me. Yet I don't know how they can do any of that to any living creature.


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That truly is disheartening to hear...is this happening in the united states?

Queenie - Yeah, but it is turning into a new day here, so hopefully the luck will change. Or at least when it turns to a new day for the other side of the US.

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Originally Posted by Suona

Far more than I could ever address. Dog fights, physical abuse, emotional abuse, abandoning them, starving them, depriving them of water, tying them outside on a lead in the sun, leaving them tied up so long that the chain grows into their neck, I could go on and on. I have seen so many stories online from dog rescues, and I worked at a humane society for some time. You see the worse side of people, and it is very, very ugly. How someone could do anything to such loving, and loyal animals as dogs is beyond me. Yet I don't know how they can do any of that to any living creature.


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Always amazes me that the species that can do incredible good is also known for their ability to be the most destructive and horrific of all species. Other than whales, how many mammals play with and torture their food before consuming it? Not only that, we torture animals because it's viewed as "fun."

Originally Posted by salvete

That truly is disheartening to hear...is this happening in the united states?

Happens in the US and other parts of the planet. Hell, some countries eat dogs.

Originally Posted by dragoness129

Queenie - Yeah, but it is turning into a new day here, so hopefully the luck will change. Or at least when it turns to a new day for the other side of the US.

Let's hope that chance pulls his head out of his ass and does better with giving it up.

Originally Posted by salvete

well I think it was the zookeepers who decided to shoot harambe. Not that he would purposely kill a child, but that he might accidentally kill the child. So I imagine they are the most informed possible people to make that decision, at least.

It is policy. "A human life is considered to be more valuable than an animals life." If a human is in danger and the animal cannot be removed from the human safely, then they will be killed. Even though the animal is in NO WAY at fault, that is zoo policy for the politics of it. The zookeepers mourned the loss of Harambe more than you could know. We are all very attached to the animals we care for, and something like that is a nightmare.

Originally Posted by dragoness129

Suona - Ah, that is still 8 hours of work. But I am glad you love what you do! ^_^
Sal - Yeah, sometimes it just doesn't want anyone to win.

Yes, I work full-time. An hour lunch is nice, though. Little mid-day break.

Adore it! I'm very fortunate to enjoy going to work. Many people can't say the same.

Originally Posted by Queen_Andais

That shit with the Rhinos is enough that I want to chop off the poachers dicks and watch them slowly bleed to death, only seems fair.

There are some that consider zoos to be inhumane since you are keeping large animals in small enclosures that are not native for them.

Lost two times in a row on a two and then on a four. Chance is just being a prick today.

It is horrific and the thought of it almost brings me to tears whenever I think of it. I have worked with rhinos and they are the sweetest, most gentle animals. They are beyond affectionate and like giant dogs. Obviously don't go in with them because they could still kill you (terrible eye sight and the black rhinos are very territorial) whether they mean to or not. But I just can't see how someone could do that to them. It tears my heart apart.

Many people find zoos inhumane. However, what many people don't realize is that animals are only so active in the wild because it is required of them to survive. You must travel to go find a mate, food, water, a home. In a zoo that is all provided to them. I cannot tell you how many animals have massive exhibits and happily spend all day in one tiny part of it. They don't want to move around. They are lazy. They love to nap and sit there and eat. When they start pacing around, that is probably because they have the energy for moving around a lot and can get bored and often times stressed out by guests. It's also sort of a habit to pace. We provide animals with enrichment to entertain them and keep them active and involved so as to avoid stress and boredom, but it's easy to get tired of the same thing. I imagine they get bored in the wild too. And I hate when enclosures aren't fitting for the animal. But it often happens because people don't like zoos and won't go because zoos rely on that money to help upgrade and create new and better enclosures. A lot of them are old and out of date, and in this new age we know ways to make them far better, but it takes a lot of money to do so.

Chance is brutal, truly.


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Originally Posted by Suona

It is policy. "A human life is considered to be more valuable than an animals life." If a human is in danger and the animal cannot be removed from the human safely, then they will be killed. Even though the animal is in NO WAY at fault, that is zoo policy for the politics of it. The zookeepers mourned the loss of Harambe more than you could know. We are all very attached to the animals we care for, and something like that is a nightmare.

I imagine it is kind of how like pets are considered family. Except in this case, they are more wild, but still being cared for as part of the zoo family?

it is still sad though

Queenie - Yeah, it is doing a little bit better so far with this last Chance.
Suona - Yeah, it does sound nice! I only work part time myself. I do need a job that offers full time. But I hate applications, so much! Yep, yep! That is fortunate!