Personally I feel that Jacob imprinted on Bella and because of that maybe he can't help how he acts towards Edward. It doesn't exactly make it right, but Edward did leave her (even if it was for her safety) and Jacob kept her from TOTALLY falling apart so I wouldn't feel right about hating him for how he acted in Eclipse.

I just recently read the books. I was told over and over again to read them and for some reason I hesitated and I am so glad I finally picked up Twilight. I couldn't put it down once I started reading it. I love the characters. Emmett is my favorite at the moment!

Sorry about my absense in updating guys! I know I have a lot to update but I've been a little busy this past week. Expect a full update on all Twilight related information by Sunday!

@ the imprinting discussion. Stephenie has stated many times that Jacob did NOT imprint on Bella, nor will he ever imprint on her. Now, you may continue to believe otherwise, but when the author tells you that's false, it's best to just drop it rather than spread about rumors like that about the story.

Originally Posted by Diktionary

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  @Sweet Lemon Effect: You do make a very good point, but I believe that the people reading are just so wrapped up in Bella's story, and possibly, those of us who have loved like that can compare and understand how her world just falls apart in New Moon and everything that happens inbetween. Like, going to see Jacob, hes like her best friend, who do most people turn to when their upset? Their est friend, I know that I can compare a lot with Bella's story, thats why I have read each book about four times. But, thats just me.
  
  -Diktionary
  

But I thought in New Moon Bella didn't know Jacob that well at first?

The worst thing about the series is that it is not TOTAL garbage, it is not irredeemable, the author isn't completely horrible. I have the feeling that if she would sit up, try to better herself as writer by experimenting with new things and actively trying to avoid cliches, as well as make her characters a little more...??? Easy to sympathize with.

In New Moon, if Bella had been killed by a truck I would have felt good. That is not a good thing. She reminds me of those horror movies where the girl breaks her high heel and the monster gets her as a result.

It just really makes me furious to see what could be good left as merely mediocre because people will still buy it. Even leaving the cliche boring storyline alone, the actual writing and characters could at least be good.

@Aisutenshi1093-Acutally, the whole I'm-in-love-with-a-vampire-&-werewolf has been done. By a couple romance writers, White Wolf Publishing, and Laurell K. Hamilton. I can identify with Anita Blake more than Bella.

I dislike Jacob as well, but I dislike everyone in the books. Bella first, then Edward. I don't even like Alice.

Originally Posted by Sweet Lemon Effect

But I thought in New Moon Bella didn't know Jacob that well at first?

The worst thing about the series is that it is not TOTAL garbage, it is not irredeemable, the author isn't completely horrible. I have the feeling that if she would sit up, try to better herself as writer by experimenting with new things and actively trying to avoid cliches, as well as make her characters a little more...??? Easy to sympathize with.

In New Moon, if Bella had been killed by a truck I would have felt good. That is not a good thing. She reminds me of those horror movies where the girl breaks her high heel and the monster gets her as a result.

It just really makes me furious to see what could be good left as merely mediocre because people will still buy it. Even leaving the cliche boring storyline alone, the actual writing and characters could at least be good.

@Aisutenshi1093-Actually, the whole I'm-in-love-with-a-vampire-&-werewolf has been done. By a couple romance writers, White Wolf Publishing, and Laurell K. Hamilton. I can identify with Anita Blake more than Bella.

I dislike Jacob as well, but I dislike everyone in the books. Bella first, then Edward. I don't even like Alice.

I have read the books over and over again, but in New Moon, I read the whole book once, but now if I look back through the book, I Skip to the back, or reread the beginning. She does reuse things, but this is her FIRST book series, and she is an amateur and I don't blame her. Bella is stupid, yes, but she is in love, what do you expect? I think that the series is good, and I love bell, I dislike Jacob sometimes, and am neutral when I comes to Bella. I am awaiting the fourth book, and the movie! But I can see your point.

Originally Posted by Seiki Nova

Sorry about my absense in updating guys! I know I have a lot to update but I've been a little busy this past week. Expect a full update on all Twilight related information by Sunday!

@ the imprinting discussion. Stephenie has stated many times that Jacob did NOT imprint on Bella, nor will he ever imprint on her. Now, you may continue to believe otherwise, but when the author tells you that's false, it's best to just drop it rather than spread about rumors like that about the story.

I honestly just got into the series and I haven't really read anything Stephanie has said about the books so I had no idea whatsoever that she said Jacob hasn't and never will imprint on Bella. I am not prepared to just drop it though. Authors can say all they want and then end up not following through.

J.K. Rowling said various things about the Harry Potter books and then ended up not following through. I was simply stating a theory I had based on information given in the books, it was an honest mistake not an attempt to spread rumors about the books.

@Freakishly Human

I thought Jacob had imprinted on her... and just wouldn't say anything. And, I never though Edward would say anything about it, even though he would of known. But, I agree with you. Stephenie could change her mind. And how spicy would it be that Jacob imprints on Bella? That just makes things worse... and more fun to read for us, dare I say.

By the way, I'm so glad we have a Twilight discussion. I made a Twilight Movie thread in the Media section. >_< I hope no one else did the same! If so, Forgive me!

Yeah honestly some authors do lie or withhold information to keep things as a surprise for future books. She made a point to tell the readers about imprinting, Jacob's behavior pretty much fits someone who has imprinted, and he also mentioned that imprinting is USUALLY rare but it seems to have happened a lot so far in the book. Therefore I don't think it's crazy to think that Jacob has imprinted on Bella.

Originally Posted by Freakishly Human

Yeah honestly some authors do lie or withhold information to keep things as a surprise for future books. She made a point to tell the readers about imprinting, Jacob's behavior pretty much fits someone who has imprinted, and he also mentioned that imprinting is USUALLY rare but it seems to have happened a lot so far in the book. Therefore I don't think it's crazy to think that Jacob has imprinted on Bella.

True, But I don't think that is very fair to Bella(even though I don't think any of what has happened is "fair"). She has Edward, and she loved edward first. So making Jacob imprint on her seem very unlikley, because she is alrady as much in love as some one who has imprinted, and that would be wierd because Bella is getting married and that would mean Jacob would have to be around her more often. Besides if you read the epilouge of Eclipse, you would know he was running away.

Well... nothing fair has really been happening to Bella. She's been having to choose between Edward, her true love whom she cannot live without and, Jacob, her best friend and guy she admits she's in love with. Though... I've got to point out... When Jacob was talking about his friend imprinting on a 2-year-old (wow, haha!) he said that his friend (Quil?) would be what he could for her... "The best big brother..." and then a best friend... and then a lover.
So... Could it be if Jacob imprinted on Bella he would be whatever he needed to be for her? Yet, then again, he KNOWS she loves him...
Anyway, scratch what I was getting at. Jacob can't just be Bella's friend. But he's lost the competition.
And I read the epilogue. >_< POOR JACOB. I'm dying to know what he's going to do... and how he's going to be changed. I've got some ideas.

Yeah whether he has imprinted or not he definitely does love Bella. I would say he even loves her as much as Edward does. I think a lot of people are too hard on Jacob. The way he acts isn't always right, but Edward isn't perfect either, in spite of what Bella may think.

OMG! I love all the books they are so good.
I like forced everyone I knew to read them
lol. Also I can not belive they are finally
making a movie out of it<3
Im so watching it a bazillion times lol.
Anyways my favorite was the third one so far.

@Freakishly
I actually really LOVE Jacob. And Bella's life wouldn't have to change if she was with him. I mean she wouldn't have Edward and the Cullens... but she'd still keep her REAL family. And I agree. He does love her as much as Edward... well, I don't know. Edward was going to kill himself. Do you think Jacob would do that if he realized Bella was dead or something? But Edward defiantly isn't perfect either... despite his perfect appearance.

@tatorXpattie ***Spoilers.***
I think the first was my favorite. The beginning and start of a relationship is always the cutest part! But I'm glad we have the second book and the third... it's just a whole lot more complicated in these books! I mean, think about it. In Book one, all that was the problem was... Edward wants to suck her blood, and he's a vampire, dangerous... in book 2 and 3... You got other vampires wanting her dead, the struggle/deal with Jacob, the losing Edward and losing herself literally, and etc. etc. etc.

I liked zombie Bella.

Zombie Bella wasn't my favorite. I think at first it was just annoying. Once she kinda snaps out of it enough and starts hanging out with Jacob and taking various risks she's a lot more interesting, but at first she's merely pathetic.

Jacob din't imprint Bella, so if she would stay with him he could imprint someone else and be left like the one Sam left (wasn't it Lucy or something)
I really liked Jacob in the 2nd book but in the thirdhe bacame all jealous and i stopped liking him thought the last chapter i adored^^

She does reuse things, but this is her FIRST book series, and she is an amateur and I don't blame her.

Well, you should blame her. An "amateur"? Correct me if I'm wrong, I got this from wikipedia:

Meyer attended Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, where she majored in English.

I believe it states on her author bio in the books she attended college for ENGLISH. So she is not in amateur. And if you want to argue that she had no experience in writing still, recognize this:

Stephen King was in his teens when he wrote Rage. While not his best, it far exceeds Meyer's work in quality. He was not college educated then. He had never been published when he wrote it. So no, crying amateur doesn't work.

Not that writing is like waitressing, something to gain experience in. While experience plays a part, an author should have enough natural, innate TALENT to carry them through their young years, as King's did.

Not that I'm really concerned or anything. If you guys enjoy the books, I hope you continue to do so. Just be aware that they could be much better, if the author got off her fat lazy ass and actually put some work and sweat into it.

Lemon, just because you don't like the work doesn't mean you have to insult the author personally. Another thing, is you have to realize it's YA fiction and it doesn't have to be to the same quality as authors such as Steven King who has been writing for years and years.

I think Stephenie is a good writer, though the vampires have more power than I'd really like to see them with. It doesn't bug me too much, but at parts Edward just seems so Mary-Sueish. If I had my way their superhuman ability would be toned down quite a bit. I just needed to get that out, as it's been bugging me for awhile now.

Aside from that, I finally managed to get all three! -Dances- I'm... sort of obsessed, even if the characters have an outrageous amount of power. I must say that I hate Jacob, though. He makes me angry and I can't put my finger on why. It irritated me to no end when he fell in love with Bella, and even worse, when she started loving him back. Ugh. Thankfully, he didn't imprint on her. -Crosses fingers that he'll imprint on someone else and go away-

I'm stuck on the mentality that if you hate Jacob, then you have to hate Edward because they're just the same as each other. I love them both. They each have their own qualities that make them unique, but they act just like each other.

The thing that peeves me, is that Jacob flaunts his arrogance where Edward doesn't.

I got my hands on the series last year. My friend always just lends me books for no apparent reasons. I'll read anything. xD

Woww... Twilight is such an addicting series. I've read them all, but now I kind of dislike them. Maybe because I'm mad that the author just had to make Bella be in love with two people. The whole theme of the book was Edward and Bella... then Jacob just showed up! -_-

Ahh... I don't like Bella anymore, too. She has no personality, and has no life. She cares about nothing but Edward. She's just SO obsessed with Edward. o_O
I can't really see her as a normal teenager anymore.

Poor Edward. I think he is way too good for Bella, lol.

And also... I find that book really depressing. *Extreme shifty eye thing*... it took me a few days to realize that guys like that don't exist (excluding the vampire part xD). So sad, so sad.
Oh, but don't worry. I got over it. =D

And that is my rant!
xD

EDIT:
No, I'm not done yet!

OMG... THEY SHOULD NOT BE MAKING A MOVIE! They can never find a guy as beautiful as Edward! D:

My friend showed me a picture of the whole cast... my stomach literally flipped upside down. T_T

I hate the idea of there being a movie, but I'll end up going. I'll go with my fellow Twilight Freaks and point out everything wrong, and cry. :P

Originally Posted by Seiki Nova

Lemon, just because you don't like the work doesn't mean you have to insult the author personally. Another thing, is you have to realize it's YA fiction and it doesn't have to be to the same quality as authors such as Steven King who has been writing for years and years.

I didn't say I didn't like the work. I said the author is lazy and so the work is bad. If Stephen King was a lazy s.o.b his work would suck as well.

And why shouldn't it be held to the same standards? Oh, I guess teens are too dumb to want to read a well-written book? It is no excuse. Many teens are writers, and YA should set a good example. Another good example of a non-lazy writer is Christopher Pike. Albeit his books are much shorter, but they are well-written. If you have to cut down some words to have a good work, be my guest. [/color]

Lemon I think if you're expecting the work to be the same quality as Stephen King's then you will be disappointed. You can't expect every author will be able to write the same. I idolize Tolkien but for my own sanity I do not expect everything I read to be on the same level.

Also everything you've said implies that you don't like the work. You just called it bad. Are you saying that it is bad work but that you actually DO like it? I noticed mistakes as well, and I agree it should have been edited better. I would die if there were mistakes like that in my book once it was already published. But I give her credit because she had an idea for a novel and she wrote it and is continuing to write.

The more she writes the better she'll get at it so even if she didn't start out at the exact same level as other authors then she will eventually getting there. It is possible to grow in your writing you know. No one has perfected it yet, in my opinion.

I started with new moon then I ended up reading Twilight second. I ended up a little confused but I still loved it. It took me about two days to read all three of them. I can't wait till the next one comes out.

Originally Posted by Freakishly Human

Are you saying that it is bad work but that you actually DO like it?

It's not so hard to believe. Personally, I don't think it's a very well written series but I loooooooooooooooove it. I can't explain it. XD

I just read Twilight, my friend lent it to me.

It was just so hard to get into. It was a very fast read, but there just seemed to be like little spots where there would be rushes of plot and then nothing. And after the third time Bella gushed over how perfect Edward was, and described him and all his perfection for the umpteenth time, it just got like.. dull. Edward seems dull. I like Jacob, though, from what I've seen he sounds a lot more awesome than Edward.

I'm not even sure if I'll read New Moon. My friend said most of it is very depressing and pointless until the last bits of it.