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01-18-2008, 12:12 AM
Personally, with me, I am for the death penalty.
I just did a government project on the death penalty, and I believe that if someone murders someone and ends their life, then they should have the death penalty. They shouldn't get to sit in jail the rest of their lives. I believe that they should have to endure the same pain that they caused.
That's just me.
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silent.assassin
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01-18-2008, 01:40 AM
Hm. We were discussing this during dinner at my own house not too long ago also. ^ ^
Well, people deserve to live, no matter how bad they are. If you want to kill them, I suggest you define "bad". According to Thomas Hobbes, people are bad, required to stick a gun to their heads to make them listen.
BUT. John Locke says that people are good, as long as there is a strong government supporting that "good". So what is correct? Good or bad? What are people? That will answer your question, I promise.
You see, people who have taken so many lives, too many to count are probably the ones to have potential for death penalties. Or maybe if they killed someone in the most twisted and cruel way imaginable. But but, death penalty must be reasonable if applied.
I'd say jail is nicer, giving someone a chance is always nicer. But there ARE people who deserve to die since they were given too many chances to be nice in their lives, and that's a bad.
Decisions. :/
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01-18-2008, 06:17 PM
Hmm... well I guess that answer varies for me... I personally would rather have the death pentalty, but I don't think anybody else other than me deserves it. Well, unless they have committed the ultimate evil like killed a series of like 15 or more people than they do deserve to die. The death pentalty should only be used for the severe cases.
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01-19-2008, 06:07 AM
@ vampire: That's what everybody has been trying to imply. :0
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01-19-2008, 05:41 PM
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@ vampire: That's what everybody has been trying to imply. :0
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Good, then I think we have all come to an agreement
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01-20-2008, 06:07 AM
hi-fives everybody- yeah! An agreement! : D
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01-20-2008, 01:07 PM
Life in jail for two reasons,reason one been some people in there are inoccent,reason two they suffer from what they did more and will forever have the memories from it.
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01-21-2008, 04:27 AM
I think that people should be able to choose if they'd rather die or stay in jail. Yeah, most people that aren't insane would choose jail, so it's a stupid thing to have in our government's law anyways.
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01-22-2008, 04:24 AM
I believe in "an eye for an eye makes the world blind." Adminstrating the death penalty is becoming like the criminals themselves. Is it really worth taking lives to make our own safer? Should our tax dollars be spent on killing someone. If that person wishes for the death sentence, fine let them have it. But I do not think humans should have the right to decide who lives and who dies. So the death penalty is wrong.
Also, as Kazzy said, sometimes the accused are later found innocent. If the death penalty is used, and new evidence comes up to prove that the person was indeed innocent and someone else commited the crime, there's nothing that can be done. True, if they have been stuck in jail for years it's hard to go back to a normal life. But they have a life still, and they can rebuild it.
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01-23-2008, 03:15 AM
We have an amendment about "cruel and unusual punishment" I think the death penality fits under that and therefore they should instead spend life in jail. It's just like abortion how we all say it's not ok to kill a fetus, but to kill a man? It does not make sense to me, I think that if you want the death penality you want abortion, if you don't want the death penality then you don't want abortion, and that's that.
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01-23-2008, 03:27 AM
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I think that if you want the death penality you want abortion, if you don't want the death penality then you don't want abortion, and that's that.
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@dianakitsune: I do not think think that this is entirely true. Abortion and the death penalties, although are very close, do not go hand-in-hand. I personally do not support the death penalty (even though I do not mind it), but I do support abortion.
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01-23-2008, 03:37 AM
Um, well that is because abortion really depends, and so does death penalty. But everybody is right, because nobody deserves to die that badly, since they were born. Sometimes I think death itself is a contradiction.
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01-23-2008, 04:30 AM
@silent.assassin: A contradiction of what? O o
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01-23-2008, 05:16 AM
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@silent.assassin: A contradiction of what? O o
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why, life of course. ;D
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01-23-2008, 05:25 AM
@silent.assassin: Living leads to death. Why would that be contradicting? That is like saying a kitty growing up to be a cat in contradicting.
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01-23-2008, 05:30 AM
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@silent.assassin: Living leads to death. Why would that be contradicting? That is like saying a kitty growing up to be a cat in contradicting.
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I meant that living and dying is contradicting itself. Mom gave birth to you so that you would end up in a grave-wise.
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01-23-2008, 02:18 PM
Hmm, i think we should solve our problems in this life =/ so no to death penalty. =.= Seriously, wouldn't people suffer more rotting in a cell sucked out of their freedom wishing each and everyday to die? =D If you commit a crime worth a death penalty ^^ i think you deserve suffering, not death. But it's a different story when the person is innocent.
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01-24-2008, 02:49 AM
IT shouldnt be legal. Killing someone is actually an escape from being punished from the law. They dont have to serve time, be crowded in cells with no privacy and eat semi horriable food.
Thats punishment. Not killing as punishment. :/
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01-24-2008, 03:11 AM
I agree with the idea that leaving them in prison is a better option, but most of them eventually get out, and we just don't have enough room in our prisons to house long term residents like that.
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01-24-2008, 03:32 AM
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I agree with the idea that leaving them in prison is a better option, but most of them eventually get out, and we just don't have enough room in our prisons to house long term residents like that.
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I don't believe that what you implied is the main issue. More of the issue between life and death. The point is death penalty will make them silent forever so they don't have to go to a prison in the first place.
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01-24-2008, 03:46 AM
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I agree with the idea that leaving them in prison is a better option, but most of them eventually get out, and we just don't have enough room in our prisons to house long term residents like that.
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I don't believe that what you implied is the main issue. More of the issue between life and death. The point is death penalty will make them silent forever so they don't have to go to a prison in the first place.
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The government does not have enough money to house all of our criminals for their whole lives. And most of the time, prisoners get to go out on parole.
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01-24-2008, 03:48 AM
Yes, but their lives can be swept away with death penalty meaning they don't have to go through the trouble of getting out because they're dead in the first place was my point at Burnt Biscuits. I don't think I made myself clear enough, sorry. :/
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01-24-2008, 03:50 AM
@silent.assassin: That is a different point. Yes, they will probably suffer less if they take the death penalty. But my point was: Our government does not have enough funds to house all of our criminals.
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01-24-2008, 03:55 AM
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@silent.assassin: That is a different point. Yes, they will probably suffer less if they take the death penalty. But my point was: Our government does not have enough funds to house all of our criminals.
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Um...I wasn't aiming at your point. Okay, let's say I was, and so I am.
Out government's own problem. What are we going to do? Pay more taxes? As if. Every day little girls are buying Barbie Dolls that the tax issued gets turned into bucks to generate war machines (ref. tanks, bombers, aircraft...) If our government cannot provide, not our problem. We've paid what we could and were required to paid.
Heck, tax went up. So make more prisons by all means. If that's what the people want, then do so. For the people, by the people.
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01-24-2008, 04:05 AM
Ahh, It's true you get out of jail earlier than your sentence stated.
In my country, well, last time i checked, some sentences went over 400 years. Yep, some people were sentenced 600 years in prison ^^ Funny eh? But as the legal system nowaday goes, if you have good behaviors while in prison, your sentence goes down a bit. And then they count holidays (weird, i know)and you get time off from that. So many loopholes o.o I think it's close to the same thing here in the US.
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