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02-22-2008, 06:09 AM
My problem with video games is that they take up so much time! My brothers can play the same game for ten or more hours straight, with only a few quick bathroom/food breaks. That seems like an utter waste of life to me. Also, I have noticed that after people play games, they tend to become rude and quickly upset at slight offenses. The fast pace of the game also makes them impatient when waiting for a real human to do something. I do not mind a few quick (especially educational) games, but I do not like long drawn out games that suck away a person's life. There are so many other things we could do with our time.
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02-24-2008, 03:58 PM
I think video games are the new 'television' Parents seem to love to find new reason why their kids do something wrong, as long as it's of no fault of their own.
Little Billy got in a fight with Sam down the street? It's not because we pay for karate lessons and he wanted to show off what we paid for him to learn, it's because he plays mortal kombat and watches wrestling on the Tv and game console we bought him.
It's not our fault, it's the evil games and televisions fault!
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Azeriel
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02-25-2008, 05:19 PM
I like video games.
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I think with parents, it's just their view of it...some parents think that by just being exposed to video games, their children will get addicted to them, and start spending way too much time on them instead of on their schoolwork or something else. While overprotective, I think I'd rather be a parent who erred on this side of the spectrum rather than the parent who lets their child play all day, skip school and not do homework because they play games all day. As with most everything, I think video games are fine in moderation.
The think you mentioned about parents having problems with kids playing mature or violent games made me giggle a little too. It's sort of funny what parents will let their kids be exposed to and what they will censor. Such as, letting kids watch trash t.v., where people just cuss each other out all day, but they feel the need to block certain shows. x_x It's just a little bit funny to me. x3
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02-25-2008, 08:07 PM
I wonder how much I'm gonna rant.
Well, I heard video games make you violent.
Children CAN be violent from video games, but most parents blaming video games for their children's violence on it is stupid. They are just so many factors to consider. What if he or she learned to be violent from school? What if, what if. You just never know, and maybe the parent is always working "Make time" is something that is usually said to the parent at an excuse like that. But monitaring the kid all the time to see what factor did this is anoyying, would you like your parents to be always wanting to know what you did every second? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I tell my parents all the time what I did, I blab about it. But, most kids and teenages get anoyyed with it, and the parents understand this. Or maybe the parents just don't care for the kid, or are too busy. There's too many factors to blame it on video games.
Seriously.
I myself love RPG games, like Chrono Cross. Those have really good stories that I got huge inspirations from. Inspiration from a video game seems kinda stupid, but a video game can be art too, and art inspires. Otherwise than that, I don't play much else. I may want to get a 2 player game so I can play with my friends on it.
Also I don't like how video games take up so much time, but then again people don't like short video games. [ But I don't want to spend a year playing one video game... ] Oh well.
Well I don't think that was a too big of a rant :'D
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02-26-2008, 09:44 AM
i would like to bring to peoples attention this artical related to the dropped bill that provented under 18's from buying "voilent" video games:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/16/ju...axpayers-crap/
now there is no evidence at all to say that is normal sane humanbeing plays a video game that it will make them violent.... but you have to wonder is this fair on the tex payers? money being waisted one bills like these because 1 person keeps wanting to get video games banned?
lets face it (and think of this as a joke if you want but you know it would be true) if there were more people that were into video games and they were in power there wouldnt be things like the war in irac, it would be the worlds biggest virtual online deathmatch.
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02-26-2008, 08:46 PM
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My problem with video games is that they take up so much time! My brothers can play the same game for ten or more hours straight, with only a few quick bathroom/food breaks. That seems like an utter waste of life to me. Also, I have noticed that after people play games, they tend to become rude and quickly upset at slight offenses. The fast pace of the game also makes them impatient when waiting for a real human to do something. I do not mind a few quick (especially educational) games, but I do not like long drawn out games that suck away a person's life. There are so many other things we could do with our time.
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Wouldn't someone stop your brothers from playing something for 10 hours straight? That's excessive and I think some might even consider sign of an addiction. Moderation plays a large part in things. Like saying people who drink are more pron to violent outbursts, moderating how much you drink would limit drunk behavior. Problem being everyone's blaming others rather themselves when something goes wrong.
The 'video games make kids violent' argument holds when you look at specific cases, like if the child is playing games constantly that glorify violence without it being pointed out that this sort of behavior in the real world is wrong. You sit a kid in front of the TV as the babysitter and of course he's going to assume that that's how life is. You interact with your child, maybe even watch and play what they are and reinforce what is good and bad and you are helping the child realize that what they see on the TV, in games, in the movies is fake. Again, I see no difference between the violent video games and the violent TV shows that are even easier for a child to get access to. The video games someone has to buy (ie parent/guardian), the TV the kid just needs to turn on when no one's paying attention.
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02-27-2008, 03:49 AM
My sister is like your brothers, Petraken. .-. She can spend hours, hours on an online video game. Probably spends 16 hours awake, about 1 hour of that is used for the bathroom and food.
No joke.
That is way excessive I think, and it's detrimental. Video games become dangerous when they become and escape from reality. Someone doesn't want to deal with reality, so they turn to a fanatical world. It's the same with ay addiction. >_< It's rather sad, really...
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02-27-2008, 03:57 AM
Video games is not an issue for me. Because I'm playing and all. But I guess parents just don't want us to spend all our time gaming. Besides, it won't get us a good paycheck in the future now will it? I mean. I have been a gamer and as I quitted, it's as if my life is empty. I'm nothing more than a virtual person. A character in a game. And that sucks. Bigtime! So what I want to realy is play games, have fun. But don't forget you're a real human being with an adventure of your own in real life.
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02-27-2008, 03:51 PM
I think I've read somewhere in another forum that an article said playing action video games canactually improves your vision by 20%. xD
So if your parents start giving the lecture how playing video games is useless, you should tell them that!
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02-27-2008, 04:05 PM
I find no problem with video games as long as they don't take over your life. Spending hours and hours watching the TV just doesn't sound very good for your eyes. There's even a warning label on all games now that says "May cause photosensitive seizures" That does not sound good. xD
Also, to say that video games increase violence in children? That's just crap right there. I believe you'll see more violence on Cable then on Video games.
I think parents should limit their children's times on video games/online to prevent them from wasting their life away. xD
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03-01-2008, 02:01 AM
I am a gamer. My boyfriend is a gamer. My closest friends are gamers. We aren't out shooting people on our campuses. We aren't kicking and punching other people why yelling "HADOKEN!!" We aren't fitting everything in our closets together like Tetris blocks... <_<;
Many people make video games a bigger issue than it actually is. If there is a violent kid, how can you automatically assume that it is because of playing video games? He could have been raised in a violent home. He could have wanted attention. He could have just plain wanted to be violent! If video games are linked to this kid's reckless behavior, how does this kid get his games? Say he's 10-12 years old. Does he have a job to buy his own games? No. Can he buy rated M games from the store if he did have the money? No. It is the parents' responsibility to monitor what the kid is playing. I mean, it's their kid, and their money, right?
Also, those who blame all video games in general clearly need to get out more. There are plenty of fun non-fighting games with no "adult situations." Has playing Rock Band ever killed anyone in a mosh pit? Has there been a kid who went out and shanked his teacher after playing Katamari Damacy? Can you learn new fighting combos on Dance Dance Revolution? Not every game involves a musclebound Asian man beating the living (or digitalized) shit out of another musclebound Asian man. >_< Those types of games shouldn't be played by little kids anyway.
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03-01-2008, 04:22 AM
Video games aren't that big of a deal as long as a child isn't allowed to make them the center of their world. Kids need to get out and get fresh air, sunshine, and exercise. My son has a limit and believe it or not, he gets tired of them and goes outside to play. I don't believe that video games cause kids to go out and do bad things, either they are already inclined to that or peer pressure gets to them and parents need something to blame because they can't admit that their baby would do something wrong without other outside influences. Bad parenting is what should be the issue.
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03-01-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm not a huge gamer, but that's because I really suck and don't have the patience.
That "video games are too violent" crap annoys me. Parents are looking for an excuse for not raising their kid to be decent.
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03-02-2008, 01:05 AM
I am an avid gamer; have been for almost 10 years now (I'm 19 hehe..) and I believe that when parents/ lawmakers blame video games for acts of violence or indifference, they are just looking for a scapegoat for either a) their own bad parenting or b) a new cause to get the bad parents rallied about and win more support/votes.
However, there are certain people that should not play violent video games. These are people with disorders that don't allow them to distinguish right from wrong, or to remove reality from fantasy..in these cases dangerous consequences can follow, not because the video game is violent, but because that person cannot distinguish the video game from reality.
As far as children playing violent games, that goes back to the bad parenting. Parents, you cannot let your television/video game system be the babysitter of your children and then become outraged when the kid spouts out the plot of Striptease or knows what an M-16 is! It is the parents duty to make sure that their kids are playing Hannah Montana Sing N' Dance and not Call of Duty. There is a rating system in place, a very good, descriptive one in fact- better than movie ratings, that parents seem to conveniently bypass. Not to mention the countless cases of kids trying to buy an M rated game, being turned down by the cashier, and then parents getting mad that they have to come into the store and purchase it for their child. It's ludicrous and hypocritical.
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03-04-2008, 11:23 AM
hmm this is interesting, apparently the average child will play games a total of 10 hours a week
sounds a long time but is it really? after all its only about 1.42 hours a day.
i think that they would be more likly to spend more than double that time watching tv.#
(on a completly unrelated but slightly keeping to topic note)
one day! just one more day!
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10819
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03-05-2008, 05:26 PM
It really is up to the parents to decide what games they feel are best for their kids. But when it comes down to it, too much sheltering can be bad for the kids, too. Video games are a form of entertainment. They are not real. I don't believe they make people kill each other or anything like that. If anything, they help keep kids of the street and prevent murder. And some games are challenging and help develope skills.
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03-05-2008, 10:18 PM
If anything, it's the social hierarchy in school, the isolation that 'outsider' kids feel, their mistreatment at the hands of bullies and dominant cliques, possibly even the pressure put on them by parents that I think is more likely to drive them to violence.
I see it this way; I basically play Grand Theft Auto: Vice City so I can kill people digitally. I work a long hard shift at the Deli, dealing with people who crap their pants if their corned beef isn't pristinely cut and laid out flat with little sheets in between, or better yet, people who take trivial things as an excuse to throw verbal abuse at me and get free stuff from the store. So what I do, is instead of losing it with them, I go home and play GTA, and I imagine that the pedestrians I'm running over in the game are that prick in the deli I dealt with. This provides me with an emotional release, and more importantly, prevents me from actually doing anything violent to my customers in real life! :D
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03-06-2008, 01:33 AM
Video games eat up a lot of time. I can vouch for that. That time could definitely be put to better use--cleaning, studying, working out... I'm lazy! I play games all day!!! ;.;
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03-10-2008, 09:46 AM
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Video games eat up a lot of time. I can vouch for that. That time could definitely be put to better use--cleaning, studying, working out... I'm lazy! I play games all day!!! ;.;
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oh i agree completly that its the adictivness that sohlud be the main consern rather than how violent they are, but even then its the co0mplete choice of the owner or their perant/guardian.
p.s. let me gues your a fan of soul reaver? just had to ask cos of the name :P
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03-11-2008, 10:12 PM
I for one am completely against all these rants about video game violence making kid's violent and bad students. I am quite the lover of video games and have played a few violent video games and they have not done anything to hurt me, besides turn me into a bit of a procrastinator.
I find it really hard to believe these studies that claim proof that violent video games make bad students. I've played the Resident Evil Games, Eternal Darkness, and just recently No More Heroes and my grades are fine. I've got a B average and I'm in honor classes.
I think the biggest reason for the above is because my parents keep themselves in my life. My dad made sure that I didn't waste all my time playing video games. Man even now I have to wait until after dinner to go at it (Unless I just got a new game and I can play it with my little sister). My parents have also always supported me doing well in class and enforced good behavior.
Parents should not need to complain about violent video games, they should be perfectly capable of controlling their families by themselves. It just takes a little work to have some influence on your kids so stop being lazy and do it. Though it's not entirely on topic I'll add to this that parents these days are too concerned with being their kid's friends. Their all about being "cool" parents so they get their kid whatever they want when what kid's really need is to know that you do not get everything you want. If I wanted the newest toy I had to save up my money and get it myself. It should really be the same for everyone.
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03-13-2008, 02:28 PM
I love video games and I was brought up with them.
I don't see anything wrong with them.
Just keep young kids away from certain video games till they grow up.
I have learned a lot of stuff from video games. :'D
So these parents just gotta stfu. Srsly.
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Zen And Tonic
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03-13-2008, 03:19 PM
I don't think video games are necessarily responsible for violent behavior on its own.
That said, though, if I have kids, I'm going to limit their access to video games - not because I think it's a bad influence, but because I would like them to spend some time playing outside, socializing and learning skills that will serve them well as adults, as well. I think it's important to have some balance in a child's activities.
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03-14-2008, 07:58 PM
the main harm that i think exists in video games are not really in the game itself, but the user. its when the game becomes an addiction to the user.
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03-15-2008, 04:03 AM
I only think it's a big problem when the person playing the video games gets so addicted to them that they don't do anything else. They don't work, go outside, or shower. Sometimes they don't even eat. :0
I grew up playing video games with my dad and sister. I'm not a violent person at all; far from it. I even played violent games when I was little, like Resident Evil when it first came out. Some games are addictive, you just need to know when to stop playing.
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03-18-2008, 06:27 AM
the games being part of our society isn't bad. It has some benefits too.
Perhaps the most visible benefits of video gaming are its artistic and entertainment contributions. As a form of multimedia entertainment, modern video games contain a unique synthesis of 3D art, CG effects, architecture, artificial intelligence, sound effects, dramatic performances, music, storytelling, and, most importantly, interactivity. This interactivity enables the player to explore environments that range from simulated reality to stylized, artistic expressions (something no other form of entertainment can allow) where the actions of the player operating as a single, irreducible variable. In this respect, every game scenario will play out a slightly different way every time. Even if the game is highly scripted, this can still feel like a large amount of freedom to the person who is playing the game.
In Steven Johnson's book, Everything Bad Is Good For You, he argues that video games in fact demand far more from a player than traditional games like Monopoly. To experience the game, the player must first determine the objectives, as well as how to complete them. They must then learn the game controls and how the human-machine interface works, including menus and HUDs. Beyond such skills, which after some time become quite fundamental and are taken for granted by many gamers, video games are based upon the player navigating (and eventually mastering) a highly complex system with many variables. This requires a strong analytical ability, as well as flexibility and adaptability. He argues that the process of learning the boundaries, goals, and controls of a given game is often a highly demanding one that calls on many different areas of cognitive function. Indeed, most games require a great deal of patience and focus from the player, and, contrary to the popular perception that games provide instant gratification, games actually delay gratification far longer than other forms of entertainment such as film or even many books. Some research suggests video games may even increase players' attention capacities.
players.
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