Lol thread Jack

We took the thread from a thing abotu animals to how great Hitler was beore Nazism.

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Thats what I think also.
I DESPISE people who hate the seal fishery.
The media has them brainwashed, and they think its barbaric and cruel.
Its VERY humane.
Hacka Picking looks barbaric, but it kills the seal instantly, so it doesn't suffer.

I also came across someone once who was making things up to get people against the seal fishery. They said:

-The seals cry in pain as their fur is ripped from their live bodies
The fur is delicately removed from the body AFTER the seal is dead.

-Mothers nudge their dead babies wondering why they don't move.
.....Need I say anything....

And the said 2 moer things which I can't remember.
God, how I wish people like that would get run over by a mob of seals >.>

Animal testing...I believe if it will benefit mankind, then sure, go ahead and do it. If it will in no way benefit mankind, and will cause harm to the animal's involved, then I think it's wrong.

Do I think animals should be treated equally to humans? No, absolutely not. Contrary to what people would like to believe, animals do not have a "soul", for if they did, they would be able to communicate and think things out the way humans can. Therefore, animals are not equal to humans.

Do I eat meat? Most certainly, animals are here to provide food for us, whether it be in the form of meat, eggs, milk, or otherwise. For those of you who say you are vegetarians and believe that it is wrong to eat meat because it is wrong to kill animals since they are living beings, I could go one step further and say, it's wrong to eat plants because plants are living, breathing beings, and when you kill them to eat them, it's the same thing as killing an animal to eat it.

However, people need to eat to survive, therefore, I will eat the food which is set in front of me, whether it be meat or plants or otherwise. Besides, protein is an essential nutrient, and although you can get some amounts of protein from certain plants, meat tends to be a good source for it. I don't think it matters so much what you eat, so long as you balance your diet out and eat in moderation, you will remain healthy.

Yes, one of my favorite foods is a steak, medium rare, with some of the blood still oozing out of it. It just wouldn't have the wonderful flavor it does if it were cooked well done.

Well, I do tend to think of Animals and Humans at the same level, because we are both living beings, and thats usually how I look at it. Though I am not vegetarian, and I enjoy eating meat more then vegetables, I still think of animals the way I do, because I spend time with my pets a lot, and I tend to talk to them when I am really bored. I really like animals, so, I would say they both come first...
...But I only feel that way with Mammals, reptiles, and fish and such don't mean much to me.

I think some activist groups just don't know where to draw the line.
To put it simply, I'm for:

• eating animals
  using animals to test serious medical products after extensive research has been done
  putting animals down when they are either dying or suffering
  having certain animals as pets

I am against:[list]testing of animals for vanity products (perfumes, make up, ect)
having exotic/endangered/dangerous animals as pets (lions, tigers, and bears oh my!)
killing animals for the sake of killing them[list]

Steve the Garden Hose: I just don't like the looks of little bludgeoned seals... Or of any slaughtered animal really... But I'm not going to stop people, as long as they know how to do their job (which requires the kill to be quick and humanly).

i agree

family comes first

I agree that PETA and ALF are pretty psychotic and overdo it a lot. However, I disagree that human > animal. I think all lives are on an even keel, and really only relationships between yourself and the lives yours is entwined with matter. I'd be just as quick to save my dog as my brother. It'd be just as tough to decide between the two of them as it would be between my brother and sister. I'd be less quick to rescue a strange animal over a related person, but I'd be just as torn between a strange animal and a strange person.

It all depends on level of attachment.

I agree that testing unnecessarily on animals is wrong. I disagree that testing on criminals is necessarily right, though, because every so often one of them slips through the cracks who isn't guilty, and I'd really rather not see an innocent person suffer just because a judge/jury/lawyer/somebody was stupid.

I agree but to an extent we are animals and of course we favor ourselves over other animals just like other animals favor their species. It is called survival of the fittest for a reason. Testing for medical reasons is fine and should be done until better solution is created. I am sure eventually their will be alternative but that will take time and resources that at the moment I doubt these foundations have (then again some of them are greedy bastards).

I don't like PETA or any organization that are hypercritical. True PETA members actually would kill a domestic dog because they believe they are better off dead then alive being domestic. I find that really against any principle they live by. All life regardless of domestication deserve to live. That is why I never take their word and to me they are worst then any animal abuser.

Humans are in fact animals and we will always be animals. We have a connection to nature that took a larger step in the evolutionary chain. If people think we are not animals do to the fact we have intelligence lack the understanding of what an animal is. We are above them based on natural selection and I am sure Mother Nature will find away to stop us if we really start damaging the planet. Mother Nature is more harsh then any force known to us.

I have to say we just have to be careful and not to trust organizations that are hypercritical and above all harmful to the cause they are trying to promote.

the human body adn animal bodies react to things differently though. so if youre testing out a new medication it may work wonderfully on te monkeys/rats/rabbits whatever you test it on, but when it comes to human testing it isnt a guaranteed match. and so... there are human tests done still. why kill the animals when it may not effect them the way it does us?
once the animals are used as a test for a drug, regardless of side effect or not they cant be used again and are disposed of. (it could interfer with a drug test that would have happened later. and make the studies inconclusive)

though i agree that peta etc are crazy i still dont like the idea of animal testing. Besides, humans are over populating the world as it is. i say we use inmates that are on death row as test subjects. then we solve to problems. 1-inhumane treatment of animals 2-overcrowded prisons. :p

We'd have millions of people dead if it wasn't for animal testing.

Instead of that we HAVE billions of animals dead

Look I'm all for the fair treatment of animals, but I don't think they should be treated as our equals.

Who's saying that they have to?(I don't)
It's more like they should be treated almost as our equals

I mean if you either had to torture 100 animals or 1 (hu)man, what would you pick?
I would pick 100 animals, because if they're would be the ones suffering the most.

This is also were the incarnation idea pops up.
What if that tasty chicken might be that best friend of yours that died last year?!

What you said was...
The (Sometimes Depressing) Truth
D':

You were right. We have indeed put ourselves before the animals. Which once again brings up animal testing. But I see that's been throughly discussed here. So I'll just give my bottom line. I think it's okay to test on animals with stuff that won't harm them too much. You know, like a curable rash is okay, but I don't want to see animals dying because of some new product. But then again, I just guess it really depends.

I'm not a vegetarian though, so I guess my opinion will sound pretty off >__<. I mean, I don't have animals on a regular basis. I try not to. I'm more into stuff like lasagna and spaghetti anyway x].

It's all just real confusing at times to me. Like I feel bad that animals are being killed just so I can have some lunch but turkey sandwhiches are just so good to me v___v

Originally Posted by melody xyelle

the human body adn animal bodies react to things differently though. so if youre testing out a new medication it may work wonderfully on te monkeys/rats/rabbits whatever you test it on, but when it comes to human testing it isnt a guaranteed match. and so... there are human tests done still. why kill the animals when it may not effect them the way it does us?
once the animals are used as a test for a drug, regardless of side effect or not they cant be used again and are disposed of. (it could interfer with a drug test that would have happened later. and make the studies inconclusive)

though i agree that peta etc are crazy i still dont like the idea of animal testing. Besides, humans are over populating the world as it is. i say we use inmates that are on death row as test subjects. then we solve to problems. 1-inhumane treatment of animals 2-overcrowded prisons. :p

False misconception that humans are overpopulating the world. In fact they are not and we really have no right to use inmates just because they did something wrong. That is just as cruel if not crueler then using animals.

I am not sure really what I support but if their is a better alternative then go for it. But without animal testing most of the medicine we have today would never exist. That is because if we started testing on humans first it would be a slower process and would cause problems. If someone actually died through the testing process family members would be up in arms.

Yes it may sound cruel to text on animals and personally I feel they should find better options but at the moment the better option is not the right option. You just can't put people through suffering because we in fact our human.

I love all animals and would love to see the world as a perfect place but it is not and this is part of survival.

People
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Just had to do it.

Most people have a drastically wrong look on this subject....there is a strict code on how to deal with animals and they are treated very humanly. They are never dealt pain unless its really truely nesessary and when they have to be killed it is quick and painless. I am not against animal testing at all...humans live approximately 20 years longer because of animal testing.

first of all humans are taking everything, we cant have it all...we have to leave something for our furry and un-furry friends...