Peer pressure and young teen girls/guys wanting to find 'love', contibute to the way many dress nowadays.

Originally Posted by kuroki13

and then it's the girls fault for falling into that trap. they want sexual attention. they want to be acknowledged as women, so they dress like whores. then they get raped and regret it forever. it's a girl's own fault if she falls into that trap, but the media and clothes designers aren't helping by saying "be modest, but by the whore-outfits too!"

Just because you dress "wjorish" does not mean you are asking to be raped.
Wearing short and revealing clothing does NOT mean you have a big red sign on you saying "Please come Rape me! I'm just asking for it!" No, that is no excuse.

As another female, I'm sickened that you would even make that an excuse and pass the blame onto a victim. Rape has little to do with sex and more about power and dominance and that any woman has a chance to b raped, regardless of clothing, race or class. In fact, you more likely to be raoed by a date, friends brother/father, neighbor, teacher, friend, someone you know versus some stranger on the street who sees you in revealing clothing.

I don't know much. I think girls like that are just asking for more attention and tend to get...a little out of hand.

On the other hand, people like me...I like clothing, and I have nothing wrong with a tank top, I just tend to like to put a shawl on top of it.
Some people wear revealing clothing because it's hot...and the other reason...I don't even like to think about it.

Sorry, but that is just idiotic. I dress in what you would consider "revealingly", low-cut tops, minis, etc.

You're a fool if you think that how I dress reflects who I am as a person.

I am degrading myself? Are you kidding me? I think that I AM the best judge of whether what I am doing it degrading MYSELF, not some random person over the internet.

The whole girls who wear revealing clothes are sluts ("more likely to lose their virginity faster")? Sorry to break your narrow-minded view, but I'm 17, and I'm a virgin.

See now you're saying that people shouldn't be judged on their physical appearances (uniforms and such) but rather their actions and activities and yet you judge people of how "revealingly" they dress and not whether you actually know if they sleep around?

"Shouldn't the school be teaching teens to look past appearances" Your hypocrisy is absolutely amazing.

I have to be honest. Everytime I see some kid half undressed walking down the street, I really have to restrain mayself from laughing.

My opinion, I think the bigger problem is not the clothes but the attitude that often comes with it. They often don't seem to realise the way the come off to others around them. They seem to think they're sexy, that all men want them (but most are below them) and most women are jealous. While I'm sure that might on occasion happen, I think most men just see an easy target and most women just see deluded children. I see nothing empowering in "revealing (nearly) all". Whether or not it's degrading I think is really a personal thing, but I think more to the point it's simply unnecessary. Someone else made the point a woman can look very sexy and still be fully clothed and I find myself agreeing with that. After all, it's not the clothes that makes one sexy, but the self confidence that a person can exude.

Moreover, most of these girls really have no idea what to do or how to correctly handle the reactions they recieve as a result of the way they've chosen to dress. It's the kind of thing where, in my opinion, until you know how to handle it, until you really know what you're doing, it's best to leave well enough alone.

In the end I think it goes to self-esteem. And I personally think that most younger teens (I'm counting from about 12 to 15ish) just tend to have very fragile egos. It's not a criticism, just a developmental stage for most kids that age. So I don't think they're even prepared to handle the reactions that kind of dressing will get them. And that mock "strong self esteem" just makes them seem like they're trying to hard. In the end, the whole package ends up looking cheap. It's unfortunate really, because in quite a few cases, I've thought to myself that the look might have worked if they just knew how to carry themselves with dignity.

i am a girl. i dress like a boy. and because i dress like a boy, i don't really receive male attention. x3; why? because "sexy" isn't how witty you are, it isn't how smart you are, it's how much skin you can show and how "slutty" you can dress.

honestly, i don't have a problem with girls wearing revealing clothing. it's their choice, which i personally would never do so. if you want to flaunt what you've got, go ahead. however, it becomes another thing when i am judged because i DON'T wear girly clothing. >>;;

and i feel that it's kind of degrading (which is why i don't wear revealing clothing. i really don't care one way or another if someone else does so, though). i want a boy to be attracted to me not because of what i look like (okay, yeah, partly), but because of my personality. my looks will fade in twenty years. i want someone who loves me for who i am, not for how much of a skanky vibe i can give off. ><;

and you don't have to be skanky to be sexy. some of the sexiest outfits i've seen just give a hint.

and leave SOME things to the imagination.

on a tangent, if she gets raped because she dresses skanky, it's SO NOT her fault. sorry. even though she may look like a wh-re peddling her wares on the street, she is NOT a prostitute/sl-t. and it doesn't justify a man forcing himself on a girl. because no girl is "asking for it". yes, she probably wants to be hit on. but she probably doesn't want to get raped. rape is always the attacker's fault, because no one, besides yourself, can make you do anything. they can provide a stimulus, but you're the one that responds...

Okay, let's clear one thing up in this topic.

There is cute skimpy (Hollister will be my example in this)
and just down right awful, patterns,textures and all..
(You know, those cheap ghetto stores.)

That's how I view the difference between clothing.
Clothing that is used in Rap videos and worn with little to no self-respect is just disgusting. I have seen some cute clothing that is quite skimpy, but I'm glad it is against dress code. Some girls take it too far on my campus, at least that's my opinion. Then you have the ones who wear it, and should know it doesn't look decent.

I always thought that to some extent, dress codes in school were pointless.
If kids are going to dress like that during school, then of course they will be after school (and possibly even more so), and that it doesn't really make any difference in the long run anyways, since everyone sees kids dressing like that at malls and in movie theaters.

The only thing I really see fit to have for a school dress code would be to not wear those chain pants, because honestly I've witnessed problems when I was in high school where kids would actually get in fights and use the metal chains and stuff (pants from places like Hot Topic). If a shirt was a bit too revealing (aka those shirts that hardly even cover the breasts, and expose the stomach in it's entirety) or something that's see-through. Things like tank tops, halter tops, and spaghetti straps, I don't understand why they'd be banned from school. They're comfortable in hot weather, and lord knows there wasn't air conditioning in my high school.

As far as skirts go, you can have a short skirt and it can still be cute. I have long arms, so the "below fingertips" rule was always bullshit for me. I couldn't find cute skirts that were above knee but below my fingertips when I was in high school, because I was still growing at that point and arms grow faster than the torso and legs. The skirt doesn't necessarily have to be hardly covering the ass, but it doesn't have to be below the fingertips either. It can still look nice as long as you have the right kind, and that's what I think matters.

[Note that I never even would touch a skirt when I was in high school~ it wasn't until just recently that I ever even thought of it, and I'm quite a conservative person as far as dress goes.]

The other day when I went to go visit my mother I learned she's aquired a new nickname at the school she works at. The Clothes Nazi.

A parent dubbed her this because her daughters skirt was to short so my mother sent her to the office and they forced her to go change. Place your hand starting from the end of your crotch and the skirt didn't extend past your fingers.

Now, might I add that my mother works in a building with only 6th graders. This is like what? 11, 12, 13 year olds? Maybe just ending at 12 years old? That's discusting that a 12 year old girl would wear a mini mini skirt to school.

Dress codes aren't pointless in school, if a parent doesn't have any respect for their daughter outside of the classroom that's fine, allow that child to look a lot older then she is and put her in danger. A school is another parent in my opinion they teach things to that child that will aid them in life, that's what a parent does. Hell, they even discipline the child. (Time out, suspection, after school detention etc).

And something just hit me when I read the post about the chain pants and whatnot...My school cranked the A/C up so high in the summer that you brought a jacket. I guess that was their way of keeping the girls from wearing the super low cut, tank tops etc...Wow, I probably should have thought of that earlier.

I suppose it's just my school that was really messed up, then. ^^;
They wouldn't let us even wear thick hoodies to class, because they said it counted as a coat and needed to be put into our lockers.
And with them hardly ever turning on the heat in the winter, it was complete bullcrap to have to be in conditions like that. Even if some of the parents cared, they didn't do anything about it. Dx

Well Pink, I can see where that sort of code for skirts can be used in a school. For us, it was always "below the fingertips", and a lot of kids complained about it. But if it was below fingertips while putting your hands starting at the end of your crotch, well that's a better rule. I often find that kids, while they're still growing, can sometimes have pretty long arms, and the below fingertips rule placed many of them at a disadvantage. I should bring that up to one of my friends who is still in high school, maybe she can get that rule changed~

No offense, but even if a school is supposed to teach kids how to get along well in life and all that, I doubt that saying "no tank tops, no spaghetti straps" etc, etc, will have any effect on any of the kids that wear them outside of school anyway. Maybe it's getting them ready for the workforce, but really I doubt many people will complain about a dress code for work when their paycheck is at stake. School is a bit different, since most of the kids that dress excessively skimpy mostly don't care about their education in the first place.


I suppose that argument could last for a while, seeing as this is all opinion anyways. To each is own~

I think that kids need to obey the rules that are set down before them even if they don't totally agree with them. Because someone somewhere can disagree with something. There's a lot of reasons why schools set up dress codes and if people sat down and really thought about them they'd understand. Or, most reasonable people would. And of course what high schooler doesn't want to rebel for the sake of rebeling. It's like just something they do.

I think it does cut down on bullying though, because you know that girl with the thin strapped shirt and the skirt with knee high boots is going to be called a slut and various other names even if she isn't.

People need to learn how to be in an enviroment where they don't get to do whatever they want, whenever they want or wear whatever they want because in the real world, in real jobs they have their dress codes set up, they have their business attire they want people to wear. And, like I said I think high school helps prepare people for the real world. Because like in college people don't mind, we're adults now, but high schoolers are not adults yet.

Originally Posted by Pink

I think it does cut down on bullying though, because you know that girl with the thin strapped shirt and the skirt with knee high boots is going to be called a slut and various other names even if she isn't.

I was called things like a slut and whore in high school and I never wore anything past a t-shirt and jeans. Kids are mean just because they're kids, and most of the time getting teased is something that happens to someone for their entire schooling, not just something that happens because they wear a bit of revealing clothes.

And I know a lot of high schoolers that never rebelled for the sake of rebelling. You can't put a generalization on an entire population of teens. It's not all, just some. And the people that wouldn't rebel are probably the ones that wouldn't wear skimpy clothes to begin with, so even without certain rules in place, it won't really make much of a difference. Half the time when kids didn't obey rules at the school I went to, no-one cared enough to change it anyway. There were maybe one or two teachers that would send the kids down to the office, but even then they didn't do anything about it and sent them back to class unless it was something like a shirt advertising beer. Then all they'd do is tell the kid to turn it back the other way and go back to class. And with as little as people actually enforced anything, you could basically get away with what you wanted, and yet most people didn't do that because they didn't wear those sorts of clothes to begin with.

I'm not sure how exactly it is in high school since I left, but I highly doubt it could be too bad.

Oh well yeah. Kids are just downright evil at times. You'll never be able to put a group of kids together and have them all get along. Which is really unfortunate because they all are equals when they're that age. Their wealth isn't their own, it's their parents, looks aren't everything and everyone is intelligent in their own right.

I don't know, I'm one of those people who think schools should have uniforms because there are other ways to express yourself an as individual. Which may sound odd for people that know me because really I am a free spirit I do think people would wear what they want, but I do think they need to do it within their age ranges. I think age is the main issue here.

No, you shouldn't generalize but just because there's people out there who didn't, doesn't mean there wasn't more who did. Honestly, I think everyone goes though a point in their life when they rebel agaisnt something or another. It doesn't mean they didn't have good reason, but I think it's human nature to question and demand answers or fight something.

i agree with you.
most clothing that is easily accessible today is in that fashion though. sex sells. producers want their clothes to sell adn so... they make it sexy.


i would however like to say one thing. i wear skirts/shorts that are above finger tip length. because i have really long legs. finding shorts that look good on me that are longer than that is really difficult. they make my legs look funny. skirts are easier to find longer and still make look right and i do have quite a few longer skirts, but shorts its a wee bit more difficult to find nice ones XD

as for te rules post - kids will generally obey rules that are put down before them. however the rules are generally ignored because the rules dont go with the clothes taht are readily available. no one is going to go online or miles away to find clothing that is 'appropriate' when they can go down to the local mall or wal mart and get clothes. this is an issue that needs to be taken up by stores. but because they want to sell stuff... it just isnt going to happen until the trends change.

Originally Posted by IshokuOsero

I was called things like a slut and whore in high school and I never wore anything past a t-shirt and jeans. Kids are mean just because they're kids, and most of the time getting teased is something that happens to someone for their entire schooling, not just something that happens because they wear a bit of revealing clothes.

And I know a lot of high schoolers that never rebelled for the sake of rebelling. You can't put a generalization on an entire population of teens. It's not all, just some. And the people that wouldn't rebel are probably the ones that wouldn't wear skimpy clothes to begin with, so even without certain rules in place, it won't really make much of a difference. Half the time when kids didn't obey rules at the school I went to, no-one cared enough to change it anyway. There were maybe one or two teachers that would send the kids down to the office, but even then they didn't do anything about it and sent them back to class unless it was something like a shirt advertising beer. Then all they'd do is tell the kid to turn it back the other way and go back to class. And with as little as people actually enforced anything, you could basically get away with what you wanted, and yet most people didn't do that because they didn't wear those sorts of clothes to begin with.

I'm not sure how exactly it is in high school since I left, but I highly doubt it could be too bad.

its still the same. i wear baggy jeans and t-shirts and i'm a "slut" apparntly because i have lots of guy friends -.-

I know what you mean.
Alot of girls here my age, in high school, and sadly in elementary school do that here.
They wear mini-skits, tight pants that show there butt crack, and spaghetti strap shirts and other inaappropiate things.
Tho, there is a strict dress rule here at the schools, most girls really dont care.
So they usually end up getting suspended from school and come back the same way.=/
I think its them thinking they look cute..
Well, too bad they really dont.
Its just nasty.
Trying to give themselves appeal to boys or something?
D<
I wouldnt do something like that.
Couldnt even imagine me doing such a thing.
Tho,girls who are a bit oer-weight should wear clothing like that either.D:
I mean it isnt something you would wanna see Im sure...
Tho, thats another reason why I wouldnt wear clothing like that, Im a bit chubby and I wouldnt wanan expose my self in clothing like that and be himiliated to society like that.D<

• Girls in revealing clothing
  
  Take 1 - I beleive that girls should be able to wear what they want. Whatever it is that makes them feel good about themselves. And all without being gawked at and having guys assume they want sex. But our world just isn't that safe. Women are still regarded as sex objects. Maybe not to everyone. And to some it is just a sub-oncious thought.
  
  Take 2 - Some girls are taking take 1 way too far. I'm 21 and I wore revealing clothing when I was in high school and I still do sometimes. But my revealing clothing isn't nearly what there's is. I wore low-rise hiphuggers. Tight tank tops were a must, shorter skirts (graced with tight shorts underneath).
  
  Take 3 - My confuzion is, it's okay for girls to wear bikini's and bathing suits in public. These items don't exactly leave mch to the imagination. Now yes, it should be kept out of school and I am pretty much all for school uniforms. Our public schools have them. But we really can't say much otherwise.

No argument about will make me revise my opinion: skimpy outfits have no place in the school system.

You are there to learn. Worrying about your clothing is a distraction. Worrying about what boys will think about you in your clothing in a distraction. Wearing skimpy outfits distracts the boys. Etc etc etc.

Kids and teens shouldn't be showing off their thongs (why are they even wearing them to begin with!?) or their breasts, or their boxers or their anything elses.

No one can stop you from wearing that junk out of school, but maybe if you were forced to wear something else in school you'd realize how ridiculous and sleezy it looks.

There is a difference between "revealing" and "sexy." Most young girls today think sexy is showing off their "assets" instead of wearing clothing to accent them. Ugh.

I'm ranting, none of that made coherant sense, but ugh.

• Stiletto - You're right. It's like young girls today have no one to show them what classy is. I used to love accentuating my waist line. It's hot. I know it. Doesn't mean I litterally showed my body. And I could always move comfortably in my clothes. You can be sexy and classy without being slutty.

I'm not the type to wear revealing clothing, and I'm against it. I don't know why people would want to waste away their childhood, the greatest time of their life. Seriously, people are wearing less and less nowadays. Whatever happened to jeans and a t-shirt? Now all I see are short shorts and halter tops. Wearing revealing clothes at a young age will just encourage them to do it for the rest of their lives.

One of my bestest friends has a rather large, uhm, bust. P: There is a lady in the office that watches the people as they come out of the aud. in the morning. She always is like harrased about her clothing. The lady makes her change into like a John Deere shirt that doesn't match her shoes. <.< I think, revealing clothing is ok to an extent, but short skirts and spagetti straps that are an inch thin, and way high up are over the line. But if you have the shorts that go underneath them, it is ok. But they are against the rules in my school, which is retarded. >.> And, uniforms are, IMO extremely extremely unecisary. It is too much hassle and washing and such. There are other ways to make fun of kids besides clothes. Like, the bikes they ride. Or, the kind of backpack they have. You have to put it all into prospective.

tight clthes are rediclious.

"spagetti straps that are an inch thin"
:lol: It's called "spaghetti" for a reason.

Should in schools that have VERY lenient dress codes to do with revealing clothes be more strict? Yea Do you think in MOST cases, that girls who reveal themselves are just basically asking for some sexual attention? Guess so.

Originally Posted by jakadamocha

tight clthes are rediclious.

...says the person who's avatar only has underwear on.