war........destruction..........hate...........mur der............
is peace possible?.....
or are we bound to fight for the rest of time

Possible? Yes.
Probable? No.


There are still way too many unresolved issues. And with the current US stance on world affairs, peace isn't coming any time soon. And when it does, it's going to be short lived.

Even throughout the rest of the world, religion and economics just aren't going to allow it for another few generations.

welll there is so many bad people thats its probably impossible.xD

As long as there is religious beliefs, probably not. And society has a way of producing religions.

If we aren't fighting over Religion or Oil, than something else will take place. It's only natural that we fight for the rest of our existence, as it seems only death can ever bring us all peace.

You got good and bad people, i believe it's important we have balance. I'm not sure why so, but it seems with the balance we got now, things seem to work out. I know that's hard to believe with murder and much more happening in the world, but i can only imagine how the world would be if there was only good or just bad people existing in it.

Originally Posted by Knerd

Possible? Yes.
Probable? No.


There are still way too many unresolved issues. And with the current US stance on world affairs, peace isn't coming any time soon. And when it does, it's going to be short lived.

Even throughout the rest of the world, religion and economics just aren't going to allow it for another few generations.

*shakes head in discust* you maybe right if so we, and the earth have a long time to wait

Originally Posted by Seven

If we aren't fighting over Religion or Oil, than something else will take place. It's only natural that we fight for the rest of our existence, as it seems only death can ever bring us all peace.

You got good and bad people, i believe it's important we have balance. I'm not sure why so, but it seems with the balance we got now, things seem to work out. I know that's hard to believe with murder and much more happening in the world, but i can only imagine how the world would be if there was only good or just bad people existing in it.

i never meant change people i meant PEACE there could be good people and bad people

peace can be accomplished, it is possible, just not with the system of things as they are now. they one puts there own interest ahead of every one else and this leads to conflicts. to make lasting peace, we must focus less on what we want and more for what is best for the overall benefit of mankind.

"Peace" is too subjective a term and like "perfection" there is always something more to be done that makes it completely and absolutely unobtainable.

What we should really strive for is relative balance--a status that fluctuates with the needs from day to day.

We have to take the qualifiers "good" and "bad" out of the equation because it has nothing to do with what is right and what is wrong--there are too many people and cultures in this world for everyone to be the same.

War is inevitable--it has nothing to do with hate and everything to do with politics. But as long as there is more than one person on Earth there will be politics and there will be differences and that is all that there needs to be to cause unrest.

war and politics are the result of this flawed system of things. it is the the cultures them selfs that are causing the conflicts, but the people's greed and corruption that cause it.

for example, think of some of the reasons wars are started. why are militaries even needed?

peace like perfection can be done, we just have to continue to correct any errors that arise. saying it is impossible would be like saying it is impossible to cure disease and that we should just shut down every hospital in the world because they are pointless.

i dont think it is. war seems to be built into human nature. there are always people who think that all problems can be solved by annilighating he cause of the problems. which i guess can and does work. but its not the smartest way of going about it. The past has proven that the way to change is overthrowing what you dont like and bringing in what you think you will like. and what you think you will like differs not only with what you do like but what others like as well. thus causing further problems.
unless we change it so much that officials cant be corrupted, and always look out for the betterment of EVERYBODY (outcasts included not just the general working stiff) then we wont have peace at our homes, and in return we wont have peace in the world.
as wonderful as i think peace would be. i dont believe that its attainable.

wow what a bright future we all have

As long as theres a community, ying ang yang, there MUST be war, AND peace. War is said to bring peace, and peace is said to bring war.

I think my Orchestra teacher said something about there only being 33 years of peace in humanity.

I don't know, I don't think the world will ever be peaceful....from war to...domestic disturbance, not everybody, nor every home will be in peace.
However, it is possible to achieve piece between nations, but many nations would not like the idea. we would have peace between nations now if america wasn't so hungry for their damn oil!

I don't believe peace to be possible. There will always be arguements. You cannot control ones thoughts and therefore one may be destructive. His destructiveness leads onto another, and another like a domino effect. War and destruction is natural in humans minds. It's instinct, and that's what causes hate and anger and greed. As long as there are people, there is no hope for peace. We can only hope that the peace that we do have lasts for a while.

Originally Posted by Iced-anime

I don't believe peace to be possible. There will always be arguements. You cannot control ones thoughts and therefore one may be destructive. His destructiveness leads onto another, and another like a domino effect. War and destruction is natural in humans minds. It's instinct, and that's what causes hate and anger and greed. As long as there are people, there is no hope for peace. We can only hope that the peace that we do have lasts for a while.

wow you have many good thoughts

Like stilettolover said, peace is a very subjective term. My mother's church defines peace as coming to know and worship their god. I define peace as a state free of stress, usually synonymous with solitude.

If you define peace as 'a lack of war or strife' then I would say that no, as long as mankind lives it will never be at peace. At the heart of all war and fights are the instinct to survive, or the desire to preserve one's self or one's way of life. This desire isn't exclusive to mankind, it can be seen to some extent in nearly every living creature. Its natural, and we wouldn't have survived this long without it.

On the flip side to the question of how long mankind will survive if we don't bring about peace, my question is "How long will we survive if we do? If we manage to suppress our survival instincts, if we forget how to fight, how long do we have before we're replaced by another species?"

Originally Posted by stilettolover

"Peace" is too subjective a term and like "perfection" there is always something more to be done that makes it completely and absolutely unobtainable.

I agree. I think it all comes back to how you define peace.
Is lack of war achievable? Yes, but unlikely for anything more than short periods of time. Unless every nation suddenly starts working towards a single goal (ha!), there will be large enough political and idealogical differences to cause arguments which escalate towards wars.
Is complete lack of crime achievable? I doubt it. As long as there are laws, there will be people who choose to break those laws-- for jealousy, rage, greed, love, or any of the other myriad emotions that make us human beings. There is no crime in an anarchy because there is no law, but I can't define that as peace. xD
A very low crime is achievable... in a police state. As the saying goes, "There’s a lot of peace in a prison camp." But when the law involves killing anyone who disobeys, it makes it a quiet, fearful place to live.

But to my mind, the ideal vision of peace-- that poverty and disease will magically be wiped out and we'll all sit around being happy-- is unachievable. I'm enough of an idealist to believe that the best thing we can do is strive towards spaceflight, and work things out as we go, but I'm afraid we'll never reach any kind of real peace.

Originally Posted by Ancasta

If you define peace as 'a lack of war or strife' then I would say that no, as long as mankind lives it will never be at peace.

Indeed. To my mind, outward peace is unreachable unless most people can achieve some kind of inward peace. But since most of us live in a state of constant emotional turmoil, it's unlikely to happen any time soon.

As saddening as it is, I agree. Of course, I think we should still attempt to have peace, and still work to help those stuck in poverty or under dictators (errr...well, sometimes...Iraq and Afghanistan are not good examples, I was thinking more of Hitler). There will always be evil people. There will always be those who seek to destroy. And there will always be those who truly believe that what they are doing is right or for the sake of their god, even when it is causing strife and death for others (think Islamist extremists).

Peace is possible, it's just never going to happen. There will allways be people who want war. You can't stop them, you can just hope they don't become important leaders. Peace however is very possible, if everyone would just lay down their guns and give eachother a hug. But hey, we dont live in a perfect world, so we'll just have to live with this, right?

Originally Posted by Ancasta

Like stilettolover said, peace is a very subjective term. My mother's church defines peace as coming to know and worship their god. I define peace as a state free of stress, usually synonymous with solitude.

If you define peace as 'a lack of war or strife' then I would say that no, as long as mankind lives it will never be at peace. At the heart of all war and fights are the instinct to survive, or the desire to preserve one's self or one's way of life. This desire isn't exclusive to mankind, it can be seen to some extent in nearly every living creature. Its natural, and we wouldn't have survived this long without it.

On the flip side to the question of how long mankind will survive if we don't bring about peace, my question is "How long will we survive if we do? If we manage to suppress our survival instincts, if we forget how to fight, how long do we have before we're replaced by another species?"

I mean peace as in no violence..... love one another as family ..........

but I guess as most people who post that will never happen because.....

in the deep corners of everyone hearts theres hate and violence.......

it makes me sick......

Originally Posted by Spam.exe

Peace is possible, it's just never going to happen. There will allways be people who want war. You can't stop them, you can just hope they don't become important leaders. Peace however is very possible, if everyone would just lay down their guns and give eachother a hug. But hey, we dont live in a perfect world, so we'll just have to live with this, right?

THAT"S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THANK YOU!

Originally Posted by ladysephiroth

THAT"S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THANK YOU!

Aye, that sorta resembeled what I said.
*starts a war on joo*

people are bad. and they're different. They just can't get past their differences. and we're jealous of other people's possessions. Like all those wars for other people's land. Its not going to happen. Face it. we're just too bad.

Originally Posted by royaljester

people are bad. and they're different. They just can't get past their differences. and we're jealous of other people's possessions. Like all those wars for other people's land. Its not going to happen. Face it. we're just too bad.

not bad exactly just too apart and full of anger