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#2751
Old 02-18-2010, 11:28 PM

Wrongful birth lawsuit? Do explain.

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#2752
Old 02-18-2010, 11:32 PM

I know xD I was able to get just one chapter read last night before feeding time. Pre-baby I would have been done with it weeks ago. xD

I think Clair is referring to the book, because the parents sue the OB because their daughter was born with Osteogenisis Imperfecta...I'll just post the synopsis:

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When Charlotte and Sean O’Keefe’s daughter, Willow, is born with severe osteogenesis imperfecta, they are devastated – she will suffer hundreds of broken bones as she grows, a lifetime of pain. As the family struggles to make ends meet to cover Willow’s medical expenses, Charlotte thinks she has found an answer. If she files a wrongful birth lawsuit against her ob/gyn for not telling her in advance that her child would be born severely disabled, the monetary payouts might ensure a lifetime of care for Willow. But it means that Charlotte has to get up in a court of law and say in public that she would have terminated the pregnancy if she’d known about the disability in advance – words that her husband can’t abide, that Willow will hear, and that Charlotte cannot reconcile. And the ob/gyn she’s suing isn’t just her physician – it’s her best friend.

Handle With Care explores the knotty tangle of medical ethics and personal morality. When faced with the reality of a fetus who will be disabled, at which point should an OB counsel termination? Should a parent have the right to make that choice? How disabled is TOO disabled? And as a parent, how far would you go to take care of someone you love? Would you alienate the rest of your family? Would you be willing to lie to your friends, to your spouse, to a court? And perhaps most difficult of all – would you admit to yourself that you might not actually be lying?
P.S. If it's any indication of how hard it is to take care of a newborn, I started reading this book right before my water broke and I'm only up to page 30-something so far >.>

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#2753
Old 02-18-2010, 11:41 PM

I think it's AWFUL! D8<

By the way the book makes it sound, it's the lawyer who is suing the parents for ALLOWING themselves to have a daughter so deformed. T.T

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#2754
Old 02-19-2010, 12:07 AM

Mellie... Maybe they are all males but usually males will nip other males fins to assert dominance! But they may not cause there is nothing to be dominant over... I use to have a black molly who mated with all the females and none of the other males got a chance I had to separate the white mollies so I could get pure white mollies as I kept getting Dalmatians >< I've never had just one gender of fish but I look for breeding them so yeah... when they have 30-40 live births and sell for 10-25 cents each it can pad the wallet a little since they seem to do it on their own without help anyhow ><

Clair.... I think it goes both ways in that situation. I know a mother (through cafemom) who had a child with a severe problem (I can't remember what) and she was recommended to abort. She chose not to and was able to hold her baby for an hour before he passed away. Could she have saved herself the grief.. *shrugs* maybe... The choice to abort is probably just as upsetting as holding your dying child in this case especially if you have been trying for a long time for a child like this couple had.... I think every mother should have the choice to make that decision for herself and her family. Mikes knows what it means to have a baby in your tummy and what it means to be awaiting a new brother or sister. I could not imagine how losing a sibling like that would effect him. But frail bones isn't nearly as devastating as some of the other things the baby could have been born with... Or been given after the child's birth! I seen first hand what an unloving parent can do to their own child and it is sickening. Why can't a loving family care for a child with a disability? Sorry not really directing that towards you just kind of an in general statement!

Panda... I've been reading the same book for 2 years now ><;; on that note really I haven't really TRIED to read the book as it is not terribly interesting... I have completed one book but it was an audiobook so that doesn't quite count imo!

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#2755
Old 02-19-2010, 12:11 AM

@ Jaz::
Well, I know EXACTLY what a parent can do to a child when they're unloving. I WAS abused when I was a kid.//

I'm starting to understand Wrongful Birth Lawsuit, better. At first, it made it seem that the lawyer they went to see was suing the parents to take their daughter away because they allowed her to be born. That's what I thought was wrong.

Now, I'm seeing that the mix up was just a badly written paragraph. :sweat:

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#2756
Old 02-19-2010, 12:43 AM

Yeah me too Clair... One of the people my mom takes care of was a shaken baby victim... and would have been a normal child in a loving home but instead is now a PERMANENTLY disabled woman with an 18 month olds mind! We were both lucky in the since that A. we didn't die and B. We are still relatively normal! I was more referring to the extremes of child abuse where the child dies at the hand of their parent or that they are permanently disabled because of them! Most babies don't survive SBS... Sorry not trying to say that one abuse is worse then another I was just referring to something that leaves a child unable to function on "normal terms"

(Jaz is having trouble portraying meaning today I am not trying to offend ><)

I feel awful today... Between feeling sick and being really low today and yesterday have been horrid so I am sorry if I come off harsh...

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#2757
Old 02-19-2010, 12:55 AM

No, no, Jaz, don't apologize. I understand what you mean. I'm a lucky survivor. Not everyone ends up as lucky as me. I'm actually going to do something for those who aren't or weren't as lucky as me with my life. It's my life's goal, I guess. To help those who didn't end up as lucky as I did.

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#2758
Old 02-19-2010, 01:05 AM

That is an awesome goal....

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#2759
Old 02-19-2010, 01:08 AM

:: Pats clair on the head:: Good luck with that :3

I take it I might not have quiet reading time for a long time then? Silly me, I bought a whole heap of books before Sadie was born because the borders in my mall was closing and everything was 60-80% off. Seems like they might be sitting on the shelf for a while. I also got a whole heap of childrens books too. I come from a long line of bookworms :3

I've been so tired these past couple days, Sadie has been wanting to feed every hour and a half.

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#2760
Old 02-19-2010, 01:18 AM

Thank you guys. I'm really excited about it. :)

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#2761
Old 02-19-2010, 01:25 AM

lol.... I'm bad with time management, and have trouble focusing if my kids are being loud ><;;

I know lots of mom's who can read more effectively by this stage of childhood...

As for feedings sounds like the three week growth spurt it should settle in a week or so!

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#2762
Old 02-19-2010, 01:31 AM

Clair loves to read. :D

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#2763
Old 02-19-2010, 01:33 AM

I miss reading ><

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#2764
Old 02-19-2010, 01:40 AM

Clair won't give it up. :lol:

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#2765
Old 02-19-2010, 01:49 AM

Yeah, I was thinking it was a growth spurt too since she's been a bit more fussy the past couple days than she usually is too. When do they start sleeping through the night? Q.Q

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#2766
Old 02-19-2010, 01:51 AM

I started sleeping through the night at 6 weeks, but my younger sister didn't sleep through the night for years. >.>

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#2767
Old 02-19-2010, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Clair Voyant View Post
I started sleeping through the night at 6 weeks, but my younger sister didn't sleep through the night for years. >.>
:shock: Thanks I feel so much better now.

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#2768
Old 02-19-2010, 02:48 AM

My first was the first night (so long as he slept with me that is) and Sean still wakes up in the night..

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#2769
Old 02-19-2010, 11:13 AM

Hi, I originally posted on page 160 (mine's the very bottom post) as an intro, but I've been off menewsha a few days and totally lost track of the thread so I missed anyone's replies or hellos. So, I'm going to start over here. If you want to know more, please check back to that page if you wish :) I have a 13 year old boy and am going to get pregnant with my second child sometime this summer by invitro fertilization. I'm a single mother. I'm bi, so if I fell in love with a woman I couldn't get married. I have a boyfriend, but it's not the 'in love" stage yet, and I'm taking it slow and making sure he shows with actions that he means his fancy promises.. you know? So we'll see how that goes, but I definitely can't wait forever for the perfect Man and Father. I've already waited 13 years and.. the baby blues are really really hitting me hard for the last year now that I've been thinking over my decision to go to the clinic or not. And I am definitely going this summer! Please no judgemental comments.. I'm here for support!

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:14 PM

Welcome (back) Covet! No judgementals here. I'm currently pregnant by IVF. Though it's for a surrogacy so the baby isn't related to me or my hubby, I know what you'll be going through. And truth be told, it's not fun at all. My butt is so sore from all the shots. Hopefully since you'll be using your eggs though you won't have to deal with half of what I am! >.<

Panda- 6 months is generally when they can keep their bellies full and you can ignore them at night. If you don't force them to sleep through the night later on, they won't. Kura was able to sleep through the night at 6 months but I didn't make her. If she started fussing, I would get up and feed her. EVERY FRIGGAN NIGHT. I was so exhausted. When her pediatrician said to just let her cry herself back to sleep at her 9 month check up, I did. Two days of that and she was sleeping through the night. The twins started sleeping through the night at about 5 months.
My kids only wake up in the middle of the night now if they're sick. (:

As far as reading goes, I was taking classes when Kura was a baby so I HAD to read. I would read to her, or read during nap time. It didn't matter if she understood it or not, but reading to her was beneficial regardless. With the twins it was harder to find time to read, but I kept them on the same schedule and so I was able to read while they napped too. (:

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#2771
Old 02-19-2010, 01:33 PM

Morning. :)
How is everyone? ^^

Glad I helped, Panda?

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#2772
Old 02-19-2010, 01:41 PM

Sick. It came on hard yesterday. And I feel bad that I actually need to go to the surro meeting tomorrow since I don't want to get the other surros sick. :headdesk: I'm going to beat these children that keep mutating germs and giving them back to me!

Winter can not end soon enough! They need to go outside and not spend so much time coughing/sneezing on/around me. I'm so done with being sick! I've had a cough for the past 3 weeks and now my sinuses are clogged and my nose is running. I want to feel better. And I can't take anything because I'm pregnant. [RANTRANTRANTRANT] D<

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#2773
Old 02-19-2010, 01:46 PM

Try living in MAINE and working at a DAYCARE! :lol: The kids are ALWAYS getting sick in Winter. :sweat: It's always cold here. >.>

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#2774
Old 02-19-2010, 01:59 PM

At least you can take stuff to prevent getting sick and stuff when you are sick to make you feel better. My nurses don't get in until 10 and don't answer calls until around 4. :headdesk: So I sent them an email. Hopefully there is something I can take for this since I do NOT want to feel like crap!

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#2775
Old 02-19-2010, 02:00 PM

Airborne? Maybe try that? It's all herbal, not a drug, technically. Maybe that would help you? ^^

 


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