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04-05-2012, 09:42 PM
@llonka
I've not used it since 2006, so I don't remember. I followed the directions inside, and then it cleared up and I didn't need it again. :3
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llonka
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04-05-2012, 10:12 PM
all righty! just wondered. it says to use every three days. guess i'll just see what happens. :)
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Chi
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04-05-2012, 10:28 PM
You may get tons of nasty discharge, but don't worry. It's not a yeast infection. It should be pretty bad for a little while, but give it the full dosage and see what happens. Some women have it come back afterwards, and others get by with clearing the BV infection, then doing "maintenance" application... 2-3 times a month or so.
Vaginal Vitamin C tablets might be something to look into, too.
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04-05-2012, 10:36 PM
i did have some yucky discharge yesterday morning. so you think i should go ahead and use the whole box? i thought about saving the rest for like after hubby and i fool around.
ooh is that like that Azo yeast stuff?
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04-05-2012, 10:40 PM
I dunno the brand, but I've heard that vaginal Vitamin C helps. :yes:
As for how much to use, use your discretion. If it's gone, perhaps no need to use more? I remember using a couple boxes before it was gone. But everyone's body is different, so go by your stuff!
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04-05-2012, 10:44 PM
ok, feels a lot better. i may just wait and see. thank you for your help! we better go get started on supper! bye!
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04-05-2012, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chi
Keyori, mine is just 18 months, so right now she "needs" me to know what's going on. When she gets older, I'm not sure where the healthy balance will be. I do hope she and I will have a strong enough relationship where she can tell me any concerns. Otherwise, with school I'll just attend meetings. I'll be asking tons of questions before she enrolls anywhere.
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Absolutely! I definitely believe it's really important for parents to speak up when children can't.
I'm just wondering about things like, when should I stop bothering my kids to do their homework and let them learn by failing?
Though, it's still way far off for me. I guess I should just focus on having a child first xD
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04-05-2012, 11:30 PM
That's a good question. What's really tricky is finding out what truly motivates your children. Children tend to respond well to a rewards system, but I'd suggest caution. It could turn into a "I don't want to do this unless I get that..." mentality into adulthood.
Saying that, I plan on implementing rewards with chores combined with an explanation that it's "work". Hopefully money and "work" relate later on in life.
For homework and such... I just don't know. For some kids, school is a horrible experience. For others, it's no trouble at all. It's hard to say...
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04-05-2012, 11:47 PM
I got an allowance every quarter based on my grades, but it sure as heck didn't guarantee that I'd do my homework or study for tests >_>
My husband did terrible in high school. I'm not sure what his mom did to try to get him to do well, but he definitely paid for his grades in college. He couldn't get much merit-based financial aid. He had no idea it was going to affect him that way, and he really regrets slacking, but he says that most of his struggling was because he was so damn bored in school. He's definitely a bright guy, and he comes from a really REALLY rural area (the kind of place where all liberals are godless atheists and the president is a secret kenyan muslim), so the curriculum there wasn't challenging for him.
On the other hand, I had college POUNDED into my brain starting when I turned 13. So my grades in high school were pretty decent, and I got a bunch of scholarships going into college (which I lost after my first year because I had poor study skills... I also felt unchallenged in high school and put in minimal effort into anything, which bit me in the butt when I got to college). I "lucked out" in a sense because then my dad lost his job and I then qualified for a bunch of need-based aid.
So I wonder if the consequences of failure are best learned at a really young age versus into the teen years?
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llonka
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04-06-2012, 12:25 AM
Ugh I wish my dad and father in law would stop bringing over candy. I just can't not eat it. it comes in the house, down my hatch it goes and it's gone in a blink of an eye. :( trying to lose weight here, silly dads!
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04-06-2012, 06:00 PM
RE- Bottles... She did at a couple of points where she did take a bottle...She took bottles at a couple of days old, up to a couple of weeks old when she started having a REALLY hard time nursing because of nipple confusion... So we completely cut off bottles and pacifiers until she was 6 weeks, when she was still struggling really bad with her weight so we reintroduced them to add extra fluff to her bum with not as much work as nursing... So she would nurse for 10-15 minutes on each side then finish the rest of her meal on a bottle.... Once she got to a normal weight she seemed to start rejecting bottles all together... She started by just chewing them then moved to acting like we were trying to kill her when we gave them to her, so we eventually
Re- Slacker moms... I do care because their kids are going to suffer.... Massive (and I do mean MASSIVE) speech delays, sensory deprivation, physical delays, learning disorders, and with the way the system around here works, ALL the kids are taught to the child who is performing the lowest. So in Sean's class instead of helping Sean advance, because he is preforming above the level of some of the other kids in his age group, they are focused solely on the one or two children who have behavioral issues and learning delays... And ALL average above average and behind kids are taught toward the ones having issues... In school, I was taught that there should be (particularly in the preschool age group) a specialist that comes in 2+ times a week to help the children with delays... And though I was also taught that to avoid singling the child(ren) out who are struggling, that the specialist would work on the problem areas as a group with all the kids... That would be only a couple of hours each day so that the others may advance as well! I was taught over and over that there are two special needs children sets. Those that perform below the average bar and those that perform above it.. And the sad fact that was also repeated at me over and over was that often the over achiever would be left to the wayside, often developing his or her own behavioral problems.. I see it with Mikes. The boy is damn smart... Already reading at a 2nd grade level... But his behavior is atrocious... He can't keep control of himself, he makes noises and talks all day.. But EVERY teacher he has ever had says beneath all of that he is very smart! I personally think it is because he isn't challenged enough... But he is at the top of every thing... He has 15 spelling words where most kids have 5 at his age... And he gets MAD if he doesn't get 100% but he's never gotten lower then 14 out of 15.... Anyhow I think I got majorly off subject. I honestly think there should be some kind of standard for parents. Parents should go into bearing a child knowing that they can't just set them in front of a tv all day everyday and expect the school to make up for their short comings, I guess that is all I wanted to say... Like my mom never teaching us that it was important to come home and do our homework and then wondering why we would get bad grades I guess...
But I also know a lot of mom's and dad's that are like your neighbors...Quick to accuse someone else of beings a bad parent for whatever reason... Like a girl that disliked that I enforced rules in my home, and didn't let her daughter run a muck like she did... She apparently told her boyfriend fiance thing that she wanted to "break me in half" but wouldn't because she didn't want to hurt Ellie (I was pregnant at the time)... Or something along those lines anyhow... What I found funny is she is shorter then me... And probably weighs at least as much as I do, so I'd like to see her try... She'd have to catch me first :P
As far as helicopter parenting goes... I have no clue.. I don't tend to freak out about my kids getting hurt, or things like that... I try to get them to handle their own battles to the best of my ability... And theirs... I am still very protective of them, particularly, around family it would seem... I guess you just have to go by your gut... You can't protect your kids from EVERYTHING... And you can't expect to fight all their battles.. Nor can you expect that by fighting their battles everyone will bend to your will...
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04-06-2012, 08:42 PM
We have a set time to sit down and do homework together. They come home from school, have a small snack maybe watch an episode of some show (lately it's been Princess Starla and the Jewel Riders) and then it's on to homework. I help Aaron first and if Melody has the same homework as him we do it at the same time. If not then he goes, then she goes, then we do their decoding sheets (letter sounds, blending, word families, site words and sentences on one nice little page focusing on one letter in specific. This week is U ) Kura does her homework mostly on her own, but will ask me questions if she doesn't know a word (normally names or weird things like vacuum) and then we'll review her spelling words for the week.
They don't really have an incentive to do homework other than me telling them to do their homework. But they don't complain about doing it. Every week they complete their homework they get a sticker from their teacher, which I guess is enough incentive for them to do it? haha. I dunno.
Helicopter-parenting- I'm very protective of my kids, but I made sure to always give them some "me time" since i know I need me-time once in a while too. So once a day normally while I was prepping dinner they would play on their own and I would be away from them, I'd have to put up a baby gate sometimes to keep them out of the kitchen, like when putting dishes away, tripping on a baby while holding a knife scared me so bad! but anyway it forced alone time on them and they learned to play by themselves, while knowing if anything happened Mommy is right there to help. I watch them when they play outside, but I've stopped going out there with them unless we're doing art or learning something new (riding two wheelers is our current project!) They prefer the freedom to play with their friends on their own, but they still know I'm watching and will be there if they need me. This one kid "boo'd" a friends house and while running away fell and broke his leg. O.o There were other adults with him so he was taken quickly to the hospital on base and taken care of, but still, I worry a lot. xD
Jaz- Perhaps it's the nipple that's the issue in the bottle. Have you tried different flow options?
I do believe that consequences of failure are best learned on your own. When I was in 4th grade we moved from around my Grandmothers house to where my mom is now. My new teacher believed I was bright, but I wouldn't do my homework. My parents had always impressed upon me the importance of good grades. My first report card from that teacher had an F on it. I was scared straight right then. Turns out she'd put in 0's for everything-including the classwork I wasn't there for, so it was later changed to a C, but it was still more than enough to make me go OMG An F??? I was bored in 7th grade and moved into the gate classes (advanced) and went from there into high school honors classes and felt much more at home with people above average. ;D
Also, at the schools here, there are specialized people that come in and work with the kids that have special needs below average. They come in during center time and in the mornings when the kids are going over basics. It's really quite nice, and during reading time they're taken out into the reading rooms and have one on one attention from the speech therapists. I've noticed such great advances in Aaron since he started going to those. It's really quite heartwarming that he's made such advances so quickly. I also keep in contact with his teachers about his progress and weaknesses in order to work with him at home on them as well. In Melodys class, the kids are divided into their morning centers by their ability. So one group is known as the "little group" -it just so happens that they're all short, but its the smallest of the groups and it's the one that needs the most attention. They aren't who the class is being taught to, it's being taught to the average level with things added in for the above average level. The teachers here are AMAZING. I don't want to think about where she would be if they were all being taught to the little groups level. One of them can hardly use scissors properly or write her name and we're nearing the end of the school year.
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04-06-2012, 10:26 PM
I did well in school because teacher praise reinforced me. When high school hit and family life became really disruptive, I stopped giving a damn. So, I passed, doing most of my assignments from home. I regret not having given my full efforts, as I could have had a free ride. I really need to help Terra to avoid those mistakes, if she's academically able.
I'm not sure what Mom could have done, but telling me that a 98 average wasn't good enough didn't help. Her inability to accept anything under perfection turned me off to the point I only wanted to avoid failure, but nothing above passing.
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04-06-2012, 10:30 PM
My dad was the same way. The first time I got straight A's in high school he said, "So what? I know you didn't get 100% on all of your homework and tests and you got a B on your final exam even though the grade came out to an A."
Ugh. My children will not be short on praise. I crave it so much now because I never got it from my parents.
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04-06-2012, 10:51 PM
I can't accept compliments, and I'm sure it stems from that. :\
All we can do is strive to give our children better lives. And that can be said for those who had good childhoods, too. Make yours even better, right? Always room for improvement.
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04-06-2012, 10:53 PM
lol, my dad was the same way, and then I found out he was a C-student. WTF? My mom was happy with any A, A-, A, A+, it showed that i put in effort and understood the material. My dad would shrug off A and A- as if that made the 4 points received in my GPA any less important. :/
OMG...I wonder if that's where my inability to take compliments comes from.
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Keyori
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04-06-2012, 10:58 PM
I'm terrible with compliments too! I mean, I feel good when I get them but then I don't know how to react.
My boss's boss last year once sent an email to national headquarters and copied me on it where he said that I was "the finest [my job title] in the free world" and I was just like :shock:
I felt so derpy, I didn't know what to say! Thank you just doesn't feel sincere enough o_o
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04-06-2012, 11:10 PM
I know exactly what you mean. :lol:
Coincidence all three of us have compliment difficulties? ;3 Silly parents..
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Jaz
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04-07-2012, 12:06 AM
I hate compliments... They make me terribly uncomfortable.... :( Dillon gets mad cause he'll call me beautiful or sexy and I'll just say... "Uh Huh..."
My mom said that C's weren't good enough. I was a "c" student cause I was HORRIBLY lazy and never understood the concept behind homework, nor was I told to do it ever so when I hit like... Age 15 when my mom would ask if I had homework I would just lie to her and say no...:/ I wish I would have been taught better school etiquette I guess... Time management I guess is the better phrase... My mom says we all suck at time management. I didn't do my homework when I was old enough to know I needed to because it would take me HOURS... And I do mean hours... I'd get home, sit at the table and be doing it until I went to bed... That was BEFORE honors/ AP/ STS classes... Those I would do much the same staying up an extra hour or two then wake up at 4AM so I could attempt to finish... That is no way to live no matter what your age... And it wasn't that I didn't know the material... It was perfectionism that was ground into me soooo deep... I had a (math) teacher that scolded me for crossing out mistakes rather then erasing them... another who scolded me for poor penmanship (elementary teacher)... and another who told me I erase too much (english)... So my solution was to completely scrap a piece of paper after a certain amount of mistakes... And as you can imagine especially with math and English papers that takes DECADES!!!! I use to also get scolded in high school for not having many "self corrections" on my rough draft and that was because of the above... Hence the reason I love my computer so much... I make mistakes no x-ing out no eraser marks... just the happy delete/ backspace buttons... :) I am much better now though not 100% college homework done by hand and not on the computer still had to be a certain lv of perfect... I don't know I'm ALL messed up in the head...
Grades never really mattered to me... I knew I could blow off school... I ALWAYS had low marks (didn't start the A-B-C-D-F system until I think 4th or 5th grade) the first semester of school... Then I'd realize I had low marks or get in trouble for them and the next semester could be straight high marks or A's I did that all the way until high school I was TERRIBLE...
Mikes is a good boy in most senses of the word. He goes to school he gets his work done... Most of the time... He comes home and does his homework immediately (that is our designated time though I really should give him a small break with a snack or video in between to give him break). He has reading every night so we do that together and he also has sight words (some of which I think are silly... Like "Unit" why do you need to know that by sight? It can kind of be sounded out... IDK)... He is so very social though... That is where he finds trouble all the time... He will make noises and talk to entertain other kids even though it means he falls behind in his work. And part of me can understand. They ask for complete silence until recess, if it is below 40 degrees that is cancelled and they have to watch a movie and be in silence for that as well... then they get more silence when they come back in... I think that is asking a little too much from any kid...
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04-07-2012, 04:46 AM
Under 40? Really? Ours go outside so long as it's not raining and the playground is in good condition. Well, actually, that's only partly true. there was one day over the winter when the wind chill dipped to below 0 and they weren't allowed outside that day, and I think there's a visibility with flurries that has to be met as well. But anything above 0 they go out and play. They NEED outside time, though I do feel quite bad for the teacher aides that have to be out there watching them. It's crazy cold out there most days! D:
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Jaz
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04-07-2012, 04:54 AM
We have really bad wind is the only thing I can think. I know a lot of times when we get cold the wind makes it more cold... But I imagine they have have different rules there because highs there are different then here too... So the variation is different where it would always be a lot cooler there then here so you can't restrict kids THAT much... I don't know.O_o
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04-07-2012, 05:09 PM
Perhaps, I don't like them playing outside in below 32 weather. But even then I give them time limits for how long they can be out before they have to come back in and warm up. >.>
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Jaz
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04-07-2012, 07:15 PM
I wouldn't mind if they stayed in for a certain temp if they had something physical to do in the mean time... Like running laps in the gym... But sitting and watching a movie "quietly" that is too much to ask from an adult much less a kid... Not to mention they have to stay semi quiet during lunch as well...
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04-07-2012, 10:15 PM
Indoor lunch recess here is held in the gym for Kinder, the library for first and the atrium of the library for second. First and second generally have a movie going and they're supposed to be quiet. Generally they manage that by having the movie going.
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ProfessorSinister
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04-08-2012, 04:35 AM
I have to say, I love this thread. It's nice to see other parents out there within the community. It's always nice to have kindered spirits.
I have a little boy. He's the best thing I have every acomplished and I work hard to raise him to be a well rounded, open minded, kind individual. He's such a smart and happy child, though I do have some moments when I want to just drop him off with my mom and be done with it for a few hours. lol~
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