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Old 08-06-2013, 10:36 PM

Oh! How did I not know about that? lol my bad!

Chi- I don't have an electronic scale. I know so many places that are like OMG to make bread everything has to be PRECISE! ...but it's not for us and everything still turns out great. So I don't feel the need to have one. At least, not yet. I have considered buying one though. but it won't be for a while I don't think.

We had smokers in our building before, and they would smoke in the hallways when it was rainy/snowy because they didn't want to go outside. It made the whole house smell, all 4 units. It was nasty...I'm glad they moved. ^^;;

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Old 08-06-2013, 10:39 PM

I think gluten-free baking is more finicky, depending on what's used. I've made muffins before, not precisely measuring versus being extra careful, and all it takes is an extra teaspoon or two of flour to mess everything up. It's such a pain. ;_;

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Old 08-06-2013, 10:43 PM

I'm wondering if that may have been what killed our starter?
I still have to look up gluten free sourdough starter recipes. I keep meaning to. I just get distracted...lol. Perhaps i'll get a scale for that.

My best friend won a new professional series kitchenaid from the baking contest the base held for Coast Guard day, and so she gave me her Artisan stand Kitchenaid mixer. So we were originally saving up for a Kitchenaid...but now we have one. And it's even red! (to match the rest of my appliances) haha. So perhaps I'll buy the scale before starting the gluten free sourdough up again.

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Old 08-06-2013, 10:46 PM

I LOVE my Kitchenaid. Holy smokes it's a life saver.

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Old 08-06-2013, 11:24 PM

Oh my, I'm lost and I bake even o.O;

Baby isn't being nice today I was grumpy and sleepy all morning, then crampy this afternoon (I think it's stretching type cramps but it was obnoxious), now I'm back to sleepy. I need to get more bags and boxes together for donation /lazy.

Tomorrow is baby group <3 We are celebrating world breastfeeding month/week :) awards and goodies to eat! It'll just be me and Ellie and it sounds like heaven! I am looking for the time away... So I did the math and I have nursed a total of 44 (going on 45) months of my life o.O

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Old 08-07-2013, 02:40 AM

Chi- I'm really excited to have one! Even if it is a hand me down. ^^;; It's a step up from the one that I did have! (Sunbeam...lol. A $50 gift from my mom, which has served me well the last 6 years) I just finished cleaning it up. It's got some scratches, but it's only cosmetic, and she couldn't find the bread hook, which let's be honest is mostly what I wanted the new mixer for, so I just ordered one of those off of Amazon.

So teh girls are in camp this week and Aaron has mommy and daddy time... and he's an angel the entire time he's home with just us. But as soon as I pick up the girls...he becomes a holy terror. Oh My God I want to slap the shit out of this kid! He's purposefully being an ass to the girls and it's driving me crazy. Why? Why? Just...WHY?? I don't understand it at all! I don't want to spend the rest of my night keeping my daughters from getting hit and sending him into the corner for making them cry. I just can't take it. ;-;

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Old 08-07-2013, 10:31 AM

I'm wondering two things. Is he upset they went to camp? Is he upset the undivided attention is now gone? Kids are funny...

Mine's a hand-me-down too. The annoying bit is I can't even use my bread hook as GF stuff doesn't work like that. The bread is almost like muffin batter. xDDD

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Old 08-07-2013, 07:08 PM

I actually think it's both of those two things. I wish I could accept the boy scouts as they are so he could join in...but I just can't. I hate that he's missing out, but damn it I can not morally accept that organization. They took a step in the right direction, and perhaps I should give them props for that, but I don't think it went far enough. ...though maybe, I will allow it this year. I really want him to get some of these camp experiences that the girls are getting. ^^;; Allowing gay scouts is a complete step up from not allowing anyone gay anywhere near the organization. Right? Someone make me feel better one way or the other about this decision. -_-

I didn't know that about Gluten Free breads. hurm. That explains why the starter had so much less structure than the non GF starter... lol.

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Old 08-07-2013, 07:54 PM

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I still regret pulling the boys from the k12 program :/ I still feel like I failed at something that was suppose to be easy :(
What's the K12 program?

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You're kidding, right? :P Homeschooling is beyond difficult and it takes a lot of time, resources, and energy to pull it off. It's a full time job and then some!
I look forward to it though. :] The school systems around me are just not worth the money put into them anymore. And I'm not going to put my kids through that. I'll do the homeschooling thing that is much cheaper than private. And I hope will also be more worthwhile as well. (like getting to go to zoos and stuff :x... Not that i'm doing it for my own enjoyment *shifty eyes*)
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I agree with Chi on this one Jazzy. You are far from a failure. You noticed a failing in the school system and remedied it by taking care of their education yourself. You got this. And you got this better than the schools did. At least where your children were concerned. mmmkay?

Shadami- Yay for a healthy baby!!

My kids have toys everywhere. The school year is starting up soon, I think I need to do a toy purge as well. *sigh* Always something!

But this week the girls are in Girl Scout Day Camp and Aaron gets to spend time with us one on one. Which is something that very rarely happens. So it's not happening this week. This week I'm enjoying spending time with my semi-youngest. (:
Thank you!! :] She's quite a little kicker too.

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Old 08-07-2013, 08:10 PM

Shadami- k12 is a free public online school done at home. You have a teacher to give guidance and lessons already prepared and given all the essential tools even a computer if you need one! On loan of course. It was the program I did for my oldest last year until December. I think Chi was referring to me with the comment you quoted. She knows some of the details to why I stopped.

Omg my house is water logged. O.o I have leaking water from 3 Windows and 1 door! I don't have enough towels!

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Old 08-07-2013, 08:39 PM

Yes. But I had comments on it too ^^;;

OMG . o.O grab some blankets?

online public school? That's interesting. o.o I've never heard of it before.

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Old 08-07-2013, 08:50 PM

I have two blankets down... But both are fleece /fail dang water resistant materials. It is finally starting to slow now thank goodness I was scared to get the boys from the bus stop which I have to do here in about 10 minutes

Yeah it was a very nice set up, they supplied books curriculum, activities lessons and other supplies as well like unit cubes and a globe and 3d shapes map etc. They also had field trips I think 2 times a month! We only went to one because most were far away and I am a bad traveler when I have to go by myself. But if you do the zoo or museum it counts as class time for the appropriate subject.

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Old 08-07-2013, 09:08 PM

What i know about homeschooling is kind of similar to that I guess... But really its just "they have to learn this by this 'grade'.How you do it is kind of up to you? I'm planning to be really hands on with them. And let them explore all kinds of things. Make it like they're not actually in school but they are...

At least in my head it sounds awesome.

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Old 08-07-2013, 10:16 PM

I chose the route I did because in my state they need to hit certain benchmarks by certain grades. They would have needed to take the "assessment" test as a mandatory part of home schooling where as it isn't mandatory to children who attend school. Find out the laws in your state now and look into co-ops. Being singled out is hard, especially if you have people who are less then supportive in your life.

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:01 AM

I know a lot of people who are homeschooled in my area. And I'm sure their parents would give me some great pointers.

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:27 AM

Have you guys heard of unschooling? What are your thoughts?

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:43 AM

I have not... what is it?

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:48 AM

It's more then pointers with co-ops, its resources people who can help when you get stuck with something a kiddo just isn't getting. Or when you need support yourself etc

I don't like the idea of unschooling. Well what I've read about it anyway. Kids still need some basic knowledge and ability to apply ideas in the real world, and from what I read of it. It seems like making those connections would be incredibly hard. Er... For things beyond addition and subtraction I guess is what I mean. I think for things like science it'd be a great approach but for many subjects English and Math. Kids need more structure then it seems like unschooling provides. Especially because those subjects like to break their own rules :/ This is especially true in an area like mine where you have have your child take a standardized test and if they do poorly your are forced to place them back into public schooling. Talk about culture shock there... :O I haven't read a whole lot on unschooling though. Which is funny that I have such a negative perspective on it because I ADORE Montessori's ideals and she had a similar approach. I just think that school agers need a bit more structure I guess. This is why Montessori only goes to grade 2 usually. I think that was part of my failing with Mikes. When he didn't do something as expected I would either press the matter harder, or I would just skip it for the day. And when day 5 came about and he wasn't getting it still I started stressing that he was falling behind :/

That whole thing seems like incoherent rambling ignore me if you like!

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:06 AM

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It's more then pointers with co-ops, its resources people who can help when you get stuck with something a kiddo just isn't getting. Or when you need support yourself etc

I don't like the idea of unschooling. Well what I've read about it anyway. Kids still need some basic knowledge and ability to apply ideas in the real world, and from what I read of it. It seems like making those connections would be incredibly hard. Er... For things beyond addition and subtraction I guess is what I mean. I think for things like science it'd be a great approach but for many subjects English and Math. Kids need more structure then it seems like unschooling provides. Especially because those subjects like to break their own rules :/ This is especially true in an area like mine where you have have your child take a standardized test and if they do poorly your are forced to place them back into public schooling. Talk about culture shock there... :O I haven't read a whole lot on unschooling though. Which is funny that I have such a negative perspective on it because I ADORE Montessori's ideals and she had a similar approach. I just think that school agers need a bit more structure I guess. This is why Montessori only goes to grade 2 usually. I think that was part of my failing with Mikes. When he didn't do something as expected I would either press the matter harder, or I would just skip it for the day. And when day 5 came about and he wasn't getting it still I started stressing that he was falling behind :/

That whole thing seems like incoherent rambling ignore me if you like!
Oh :O i meant that only for the how my states homeschooling works. My bad.

yes it did.. but only because i haven't the slightest what most of that stuff was. Montessoris and unschooling. what?

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:12 AM

OMG I am so sorry Melody. I had a total pregnancy brain moment or something!!! Re-Boy scouts. To be honest Mel, I am beginning to enjoy that Mikes is in scouts. I love that they admit gay members now, and while I agree they will need to step back and say it's ok to have gay leaders as well, I do understand the hesitation. Girl scouts hasn't faced a lot of the bad publicity that boy scouts has from gay leaders abusing their posts. Mostly because there doesn't seem to BE any of that problem with any of it's leaders. Not sure why whether it's just non existent or if it's because girls are less likely to tell? But the bad publicity comes from NON gay leaders most of the time in boy scouts. Men abusing their posts as leaders, and the gay and lesbian community gets the brunt of the blame from it because people assume the men doing the abusing are gay. Fact is they aren't. Usually they are married men :( ANYWAY... I digress, I am enjoying Mikes being in boy scouts, now that I am allowed to be involved. Between my mom and sister I felt like he was gone nonstop (still do sometimes but you'll be able to chose that a little more then I do for Aaron).... They have some things I don't particularly care for like "Scout Sunday" but it is optional, my sister doesn't think I KNOW this but I do. The girl scout have (or at least use to) an equivalent patch. I'd say as long as you are teaching Aaron the right things Mellie, you're good, attend his meetings try to get a school sponsored Den rather then a church if you can. Mikes really does like the summer activities, he just doesn't like meetings but his aunt SUCKS at being a leader... >:(

There are a lot of thing in place to keep kids from being hurt now too, like the never alone with adults that aren't parents rule. No scout can share a tent with an adult that isn't related. I think there is another rule too for when scouts are big enough to camp without parents that ensures again that scouts are never alone with adults who aren't related but Mikes isn't old enough for that yet.

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:19 AM

Oh crap! Sorry Mellie! x_x I don't know how I feel about Boy Scouts. I say follow your gut and see what progression is made and what you're comfortable with. In the meantime are there other things he's interested in?

Montessori is different from unschooling. Terra had a short experience (the school closed) and loved it. Kids are able to explore different areas of learning within semi-structured supervision. Unschooling is more of the idea where you let the child lead learning and go where they want to go. Part of it scares me, as one article mentioned a kid playing video games all the time. To me that's not learning. Video game interest can sometimes move onto passion (developer, graphic art, writing--all sorts) but it also depends how motivated your child is and what they take away from the learning.

The only thing that makes me question it is the method of guidance. I have a friend who was unschooled and was freaking brilliant. He ended up joining us in public school around 8th grade and was just as sharp as anyone. He had some college. His brothers, too.

Part of me wonders if I just fear it too much to dig deeper into the research. The other part wants to stop worrying and just "be", while acting if and when there's a problem. (Speaking of, Terra gave her father a difficult daycare drop off today, so now I'm leaning back towards "extended vacation" for a while.)

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:23 AM

Shadami... Montessori is an Early Childhood method of teaching I wouldn't know how to summarize her method. Or any of the teaching methods really. I am an almost certified Early childhood Lead Teacher and or Director (I just lack SOME hours but my old job refuses to give me my documentation of the hours so as of right now I am missing all hours except my observation/ lesson planning hours from school). I have all the training my state requires for me to teach birth through age 7. Maria Montessori is one of the many educators/ physicians/ psychologists I studied in school and her methods strike me as most appealing when compared to the others I learned about but I am not trained in her methods officially. She expressed the best way to learn is to let the child lead. If a little one shows interest in say dinosaurs your ENTIRE curriculum matches that. You add dinosaur replicas to the sand table, take the kids to a dinosaur museum to see their real size, etc. Your whole world revolves around what interests a child at any given time. Then their is the idea of "real" play. Not offering fake items to play with. Real wood, real hammers and nails, real cookware etc. It is a very hands on method. But in the end it is designed for young learners. Mikes who is in 3rd grade has great interest in history. One of my worst subjects and he gained that interest through School. He would have never gotten it from me cause I hate it ><;

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:59 AM

Both of those actually sound quite appealing to me. . . It's basically what I was thinking about doing. but maybe with just a bit more structure?

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Old 08-08-2013, 02:15 AM

I think structure in later years is necessary. Mostly because I have a slacker for my oldest and if I were to let him he'd do nothing but play video games, transformers, legos and TV all day. He's always been like that. Sean I could probably be more successful teaching in a Montessori structure but that is because he is driven to learn. He wants to know about all things read me ANOTHER, please can we watch the show about space or volcanoes etc. He craves it. Mikes is very, eh about self driven learning. He wants to know mostly about mechanical devices and to get to be hands on with those you have to learn more basic sciences and maths first. It kind of detours the whole driven part. :/

I can't explain unschooling I wonder what google has to say
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Unschooling is an educational method and philosophy that rejects compulsory school as a primary means for learning. Unschoolers learn through their natural life experiences including play, game play, household responsibilities, personal interests and curiosity, internships and work experience, travel, books, elective classes, family, mentors, and social interaction. Unschooling encourages exploration of activities initiated by the children themselves, believing that the more personal learning is, the more meaningful, well-understood and therefore useful it is to the child. While courses may occasionally be taken, unschooling questions the usefulness of standard curricula, conventional grading methods, and other features of traditional schooling in maximizing the education of each unique child.
go go wikipedia lol

So see they are VERY similar teaching methods. But one is coined for a student under the age of 7 the other is for students of all ages and I can see how things would fall through the cracks this way. But at the same time the idea intrigues me too. Because after all, Marie Montessori is my idol and this is right up her alley. One day one day I will have formal training in her methods!!!

Off handed note. OMG OMG Honey Nut Cheerios is a wonderful second dinner O_O

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Old 08-08-2013, 03:58 AM

LOL Jazzy. My husband completely agrees with you on the Honey Nut Cheerios! When we have them in the house, he has a bowl every night! xD


Thanks for the boy scouts input girlies! I appreciate it. We have 2 troops on the island, the town troop and the base troop. Neither are religiously oriented. There is a Scout Sunday where both the Boy and Girl Scouts are invited to attend the base Chapel as guests of honor/do the color guard stuff at the beginning etc. We skip it because eh, don't care enough.
I'll talk to a friend here about it. Her son is in Cub Scouts and she's pretty involved with it. Her son is actually the little boy that Sakura has a crush on (he has a crush on her too, and they're a freaking adorable together!)

I've not looking into unteaching before. So I'd need to research it more to give an opinion. From what Jazzy/Wiki say it sounds interesting, but not something I'd really go with.

 


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