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#1201
Old 08-10-2009, 09:05 PM

Wait wait wait.... WHAT??? I stopped paying attention to owners and new owners.... (for the most part.... Zantarni's New owner kind of annoys me a bit >.> his name is pure leet and he expects people to use grammar??? WHAT... O.O) any how who is Jo$h and when did they get a new owner????

Yeah cafe mom is lame... >.> It was helpful in some senses like when I started cloth diapering and as a support for when I was breastfeeding... But The "Crunchy" mom's look down on everyone... The BFing mom's look down on formula feeding mom's.... and so on and so forth... BAH.... Michael was breastfed till 15 months... I stopped when he started feeling the privilege to lift my shirt in public... Sean I simply got too sick in January and Sean needed more and more supplementing... Poof 3 weeks and milk was almost completely dried! When I got better I tried to restart bfing because I was still making a small amount (still am for that matter sorry TMI) but Sean wouldn't have it... It took too much work for him to nurse and he would scream and cry until I would cave with a bottle... I didn't make anything when I pumped so I couldn't even do that to add to his formula... BAH... But I did the best I could for them both... Within my own standards and abilities and that is what counts!

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Old 08-11-2009, 06:14 AM

With the first pregnancy, I carried 4 weeks over and had a 10 lb. baby. I did everything the "right" way. Natural childbirth, lamaze lessons, pant-pant-huff and puff breathing, no pain killers and whoa was that a wake up call. I did breast feed until he grew teeth; when bit me the first time it was the last time!.
With the twins, my second pregnancy, one of the twins was breech and wouldn't move No Matter What we did. The doctor wanted to do a "trial natural" birth. One word that will NEVER be used with my kids is "trial". I found out that I could make them do it my way and told them we'd be doing a C-section period. It wasn't easy getting them to conform to my wishes, but within a week they did. One was 8lbs, the other 6lbs 10 oz. I also breast fed both of them until they grew teeth. That totally contributed to my "I-can-do-ANYTHING-I-wanna-do" attitude. Then I was totally YAY Bottles!
Basically, my point is, if you feel strongly about something, don't let anyone sway you. I firmly believe that only we know whats best for us.

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#1203
Old 08-11-2009, 11:34 AM

Sassy- boys or girls? I also had a singleton pregnancy and then a twin pregnancy. :3

For the surrogacy pregnancy I'll be undertaking soon I know I'll do a natural birth, but with pain killers. No reason to put myself through more pain than necessary. :3

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Old 08-11-2009, 11:55 AM

Ohh you can do that Mellie? I thought you had a c-sec with the twins? You can do a VBAC where you are...? IF I ever have a c-sec, and for some odd reason don't get either my hubby snipped or myself tied... I would want to have a vbac to the point of moving the heck out of state to do so!!! I wouldn't want to do that twice, especially because I am back to normal about and hour after delivery and running about doing stuff that I am not really suppose to with no problem >.>;; (like lifting my at the time almost 4 year old) they told me no lifting over 30lbs and Mikes was 50ish a year ago... 55 this year O_O... He wanted to be held too and I held him XP

Oh I forgot to share Sean has been saying "Wow" for about a week or two now... and it is so comical.. He likes to point at the wall, TV, and other not all that interesting objects and draw it out.... "wooooooooow" I got it on video... You can also see that he doesn't like to sit in one spot for more then a couple seconds unless there is food involved LOL... He also does the "mean face" I caught him practicing at the table during dinner and got a video of that too...

Today Mikes has his "girlfriend" Mikayla coming over to play... It should be fun I love Mikayla her mom is sister in law to one of my old friends from high school... And she also has a 2 year old little girl named Jayden LOL... So someone near Sean's age as well to play with! They'll be coming shortly after Baby Jayden leaves for the day!

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#1205
Old 08-11-2009, 07:15 PM

It really depends on your doctor. I've discussed with my ob/gyn already about what I wanted to do and she is all for it. She prefers natural to cesearian deliveries, they're less risky, and less painful. xD There can be some complications, if the sac attaches to the scar of the uterus from where the cesearian happened, but we'll be having a doctor on standby to make sure I'm ok regardless. But yes, they'll allow it. :3

I totally missed your previous post. xD
Earlier this year Kinsaki had a hacking case where their files for like 6 months or something were wiped out because Jo$h was notorious for not backing up sites (he did that on Menewsha a few times too. >.>) In any case, the site was left in such shambles that he decided to bail on it and put it up for sale. The new owner bought it and the first items they came out with were Kin and Saki to be the new mascots for the site (to give you a timeline as to when this happened since I dont' remember the dates xD) In any case, thats when they got a new owner. :3 Josh = Joshimitsu or...Jarvis? I think that's it. He now owns a clickable pet site. >.> lol.

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#1206
Old 08-11-2009, 10:01 PM

I'm not currently a parent but I am expecting on New years eve.
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#1207
Old 08-11-2009, 10:24 PM

awwwww!! Congrats! Do you know the gender?

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#1208
Old 08-11-2009, 11:33 PM

Oh a preggie LOL... 2 days before me birthday! Congratulations!

@mellie... Nope it was ruled out here >.> no doctor will do it here because no hospital will allow it *grumbles*... All the hospitals in the state will not let you have a VBAC you either have a private nurse/mid wife which is money money money by the pound... Or you deal.. >.> stupid capitalist hospitals *grumbles* That is sooooo cool that they are letting you though Mellie! Good luck... And hopefully it will all run smoothly...!

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#1209
Old 08-12-2009, 10:42 AM

My ob/gyn office actually has a midwife. >.> She's who I go and see, but I'll be delivering at the hospital down the street, so I know its allowed.

Jaz....you gotta get out of that commie place. xD Its not good for you there, waaaay to many restrictions on everything!!

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#1210
Old 08-12-2009, 11:03 AM

*waves* Hello, everyone. ^^

Today I'm going to the lake with my younger brother to celebrate his 16th birthday. Tomorrow is his real birthday, though. Along with my little sister's birthday, too. :lol:
Two of my younger siblings have the same birthday. :P

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#1211
Old 08-12-2009, 11:24 AM

>.> Two of my kids have the same birthday too. But its because they're twins. They just couldn't hold out another 11 hours is so that they could have been born on seperate days! [/anger] :P

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#1212
Old 08-12-2009, 11:36 AM

:lol: Yeah, my two younger siblings are turning 16 and 13 tomorrow. ^^
It's going to be nice. My brother is so quiet and does the same thing every year for his birthday, and my sister tries to do something different. :lol:

They're nothing alike, but that's because they're really not related.
Though, my brother looks more like me than my sister does... and my sister is blood related. xD

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Old 08-12-2009, 04:44 PM

Yup... Too many... I blame a particularly strong number of a specific religion that dominates our state government >.>

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#1214
Old 08-12-2009, 05:24 PM

JAz- theres a reason there was a seperation of Church and State. >.> Religion rules with passion against anything that might be seen as anti religious...but the truth is you need some scientific backing, not everything can be put in faith! >.< Ugh, Religious zealots drive me crazy. Not only do they fuck stuff up, but then they have to force their beliefs down other peoples throats. GRRRR.

Btw- whats a 'crunchy' mom? xD

Clair- Sweet. (: I hope you have fun tomorrow.

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#1215
Old 08-13-2009, 01:16 AM

I wouldn't consider myself "religious".
My church (a non-denominational church) tries to stay clear of that term.
Our pastor said it's wrong to call ourselves "religious", he just wants us to be faithful. >.<

And I try not to shove it down people's throats at all. I want people to know about God, but I don't want to force people to believe. That only turns people away. If I can get someone to come to church with me, that's great, if they say no, then I don't mind that either.

I just feel everyone needs to believe in something. Whether that be God, or Budha (the god not the man who created the religion xD- Historians proved he really exsisted) or a rock, then at least they have something to believe in. It's comforting for me to be Christian. :)//

Anyways, sorry about my little speech. ><

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Old 08-13-2009, 02:37 PM

Clair... I believe in god, just not in religion... I have been to FAR to many churches where one thing or another sits incredibly uneasy for me... The church I "affiliate" myself with (and I use that term INCREDIBLE lightly) believes you go to a "prison" in heaven if you are not baptized in their pool... My grandfather was a catholic who didn't attend church often but was a GREAT man... He found beauty in everything and everyone! And the idea of him not being in the part of heaven where I will SUPPOSEDLY be going because I was baptized of that religion (in the lowest level technically because there are supposedly 3 levels of heaven and I would not be "good" enough to get into the first two... >_>) wouldn't be worth it in my opinion... My beliefs are a combination of the things I really enjoy about different religions... But it leans closest to Jewish and Buddhism as far as what I believe should happen while alive and such!

Others where there are things like "People Speaking in Tongues" bother me much more... I don't believe that god would ever talk to me in a language I don't understand...

Ugh... I just broke one of my own rules... NO TALK OF RELIGION....

Anyhow... Mellie... Yeah, this state is messed up... I don't remember if it was nationwide debate or just in our state... But there was heavy talk of allowing doctors and pharmacists who don't believe in birth control to deny a person a prescription for it! Also anyone under the age of 18 needs parental permission to get a prescript for birth control and everyone wonders why our state has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the nation... >.> In Washington you can walk into any hospital and there are free condoms and you can sign up to get free pills, shots, and implants! I think that is a better way of going about it... To many girls here get pregnant really early (talking middle school) and can't even get a job because they aren't old enough yet! I think that is a tragedy... And it is preventable if there is birth control readily available and cheap... Because obviously the "absence" classes that have been around since I was in middle school aren't working >.> Kids are still having unprotected sex and having babies way too early... And I was one of them <.<


And a "crunchy" mom is a mom who only buys organic foods and products... They usually clothe diaper exclusively and only breastfeed as well (many to 3+ years not that I can say that is bad but really not for me!)... I think it is something you can be proud of for sure, but a mom who does all of that can still be a crappy mom and abuse her children... Just like any other could be.... I know that is negative but its true....

I clothe diapered (until Sean started teething really heavily and had acid poo that ate through the diapers and we couldn't afford to replace them) and breastfed and I like to use natural products... But I don't consider myself a crunchy because I will use formula if something happens... I will resort to regular diapers if buying new diapers means that I am putting my families finances at risk with a big purchase like they require... Most crunchies won't have any of that... I also use some chemicals like bleach and disinfectants, simply because there is a newborn that frequents my home and some of the "natural" cleaners have been proven to not be as effective as the power of the evils of bleach ROFL... Bleach is my friend barely any virus, bacteria, germ etc can survive it where as some of those prefer the environment it's "counterpart," vinegar...


Sorry didn't mean to write a book O-o

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#1217
Old 08-13-2009, 02:56 PM

I'm sorry I brought it up, Jaz. ><

The "Talking In Tongues" never really made sense to me, either. ><
But it seems pretty neat from what I've been told.

Anyways, sorry.

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#1218
Old 08-13-2009, 03:37 PM

Technically I'm Catholic, but I don't agree with a lot of the stuff the Pope goes on about.
I agtree that abstinence should be taught in schools...but I also don't think education about safe sex is dangerous. In fact I find that people that don't know about the dangers of sex are more likely to be hurt by it. Operah had a show like last week where these 14 year olds were thinking they were ready to have sex. They brought on a sex counselor and by the end of the show the girl decided that she wasn't ready. THIS is what needs to be done in schools AND at home. We shouldn't be hiding sex and just telling people not to have it. Yes, tell them not to have it but let them know the risks, not just physical but emotional as well. Knowledge is power yo! lol.

>.> I also don't agree with not allowing Gays and Lesbians to marry, or that they are sinning in being who they are. I don't think God would put people on the planet that he didn't approve of. If God loves us...then he'll love us for who we are. Lying about who we are is neglecting what he gave us. We all deserve to be loved. Srsly.

[email protected] crunchy moms. I never used cloth diapers, I had no desire to scrape poop out of diapers, or end up washing bed sheets every other day because the diapers leaked etc. And I don't buy organic foods either! Too expensive. We eat a balanced diet. Rich in fruits and vegges (hey, I've got my kids eating brussel sprouts at 2/4 that is an accomplishment!) and in grains. The kids think bread is a snack. >.> and rasins are candy. I don't need organic veggies to be a good mom. Or cloth diapers. >.> I just got them potty trained fast. xD

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Old 08-13-2009, 03:44 PM

@ Melody::
They teach safe sex in schools now. >.>
At least they taught us how to be safe in my school.
Yeah, that would be great if they had someone come into schools. To help kids realize how they weren't ready. :)//

I also have to agree with the Gay/Lesbian thing, too.

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Old 08-13-2009, 03:48 PM

We didn't learn about safe sex, we learned that if you have sex you get pregnant, and STD's. So we learned about the scary sides, but not that condoms can help prevent pregnancy and STD's or that birth control was available in places like planned parenthood etc.
I think it would have stopped a lot of the pregnancies that happened in my school. (perhaps even mine?) (probably not xD) The problem is that sex is widely advertised on tv and movies and music now even. But its not really talked about. For some reason its out in the open but kept hush hush between parents/teachers and children.

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Old 08-13-2009, 04:12 PM

*nods* We learn how to use different safety percautions, condoms, birth control, ect.
All taught in schools now.

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Old 08-13-2009, 04:47 PM

It depends on where you live. As Jaz pointed out her state doesn't allow it. :3

and the schools I went to in So Cal (and my sister went to and some kids I used to baby sit are going to now) Don't teach it either.

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Old 08-13-2009, 06:26 PM

Our absence class taught only the scary side of sex... And right before lunch to O_O slide shows and ALL 99% of us didn't listen to the teacher because it was that gross and we didn't want to loss our appetite... I have (correction... HAD, before I had kids) a pretty strong stomach and could easily watch the slide show... Joke about what the STD looked like and then go eat school lunch no problem! No one gave me an example of what would more then likely happen when the guy left and for 2 years you raise a baby on your own... How hard that is... No one told me I would be fighting until Michael turns 18 (and probably later) to keep Michael safe healthy and happy because his dead beat dad could careless... That would have been nice to know... And having birthcontrol pills readily available without my crazy mother's consent... WOULD have prevented my pregnancy... >.> more then likely... Cause Sweet little Seanny was a condom and pill baby (come to find out from my doctor the low dose pill I was had resulted in several pregnancies around the same time as Seanny was conceived... My doc refuses to prescribe it now!)... They also didn't teach how to use the precautionary things... Had one teacher in 7th grade try to show an example of how to use a condom and she was fired the next day because a parent was offended... You know .... I had to teach my husband how to use one properly O.o and Michael's father... Neither was shown how to... I think good solid education is what the kids need... Not the "DON'T DO IT'S!!!" Kids are just too likely to rebel against that...

I disagree on the gay and lesbian thing... On a couple accounts.... I do believe they should be recognized by the "state" and get the same privileges and responsibilities a heterosexual couple get... We can get health insurance with a "family" deductible for our spouse and children... So should they... Not many companies recognize "life partners" as a significant other... Dillon's work wouldn't cover me or Michael until we were married... I think they should have that right too... I have some really close friends that adopted two babies from a family member who abused drugs and refused to quit... The mother and father of the girl who was pregnant actually got her checked into a psych ward to keep her off the drugs while she was pregnant, because they caught her shooting up right after she found out! The state only allowed one of the "mothers" to adopt the children because she was family the other has no say in the child's life except that the one with legal rights lets her have them... But here is the kicker... The one who adopted them is a stay at home mom... She doesn't work and there fore has no insurance for her kids because the state doesn't recognize the other mother as being a parent and so she can't get health care for her children through that... I am not saying that churches who don't condone homosexual behavior should be forced into allowing marriages...But there should be a state civil unions should be in place to allow things that are happening anyway to be accepted by legal organizations... Like if a couple who had been together years were to separate there would be an equal separation of the property and such which often isn't the case... (Sorry opening a can of worms I'm sure... That is just my opinion though I am very close to quite a few gay and lesbian couples...)

Oh and just a note on the clothe diapering thing... We had less leaks with clothes then with any other diaper... And you don't necessarily have to scrape poop... I never touched it ewwww... We had a sprayer connected to the toilet the sprayed to poop right into the toilet ^_^

As far as organic... I like the idea of no pesticides and stuff but well it isn't always in the budget... So if we can't afford organic we do exactly what you do just make meals as balanced as possible ^_~... Though my kids KNOW what candy is LOL and snacks very from day to day anywhere from carrot sticks to pudding...

I am a hippy I try to reduce the amount of waste we use as much as possible so we do little things to help... Like using regular towels to dry hands instead of paper towels and reusable dishes instead of paper plates... I like the idea of leaving my kids with a world not all trashed up... =) It isn't hard for me but for people like my mom... If you'd ask her to not buy paper towels for a week she'd loose a cracker... She cleans with them, uses them as a utensil in cooking, serves food on them EVERYTHING... Different people view things differently... I can't blame anyone for that... My mom is also always busy and does anything she can to cut costs and time... Where as I stay at home all day and washing an extra load of dishes or a couple of extra rags or towels isn't a big deal for me!

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Old 08-13-2009, 06:30 PM

That's odd.
I always thought my state was the state that was far behind. ><

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Old 08-13-2009, 09:24 PM

Jaz- I wouldn't force religions to approve Gay/Lesbian relationships, but I find it highly annoying that they have tenticles in the government that are keeping them from having the same rights as other married couples. So if I read your post correctly, we're on the same page in this. xD

I bought reusable grocery bags, we use real dishes, conserve water, grow some of our own veggies and fruits etc. I'm certainly not the biggest waster on the planet...hell I don't even run the AC that much! But I'm not going to go out of my way to buy over priced organic veggies (though I do buy some at the farmers market, good heavens they have good deals there!) I just feel that the fruit/veggies are smaller and not worth the amount they want for them. If I can feed my family one apple a day for a week for under $5, why in the world would I spend $5 on A PACK OF 4?? it makes no sense to me! My parents grew up with the foods, as did I, and I'm not dying from it and neither are they. My kids will be fine, and better off imo if I save money instead of spending it on produce that rots faster. >.>

[email protected] the condom thing though. I can't imagine a guy NOT knowing how to put one on. But when I've asked a few guys in the past about it, some of them didn't know. And were too manly to read the instructions. xD IT COMES WITH PICTURES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! lol. I'll never understand it. People want their children to be completely sheltered...and it just hurts them in the end. I wish my mom had talked to me about sex and such. I think that would have been the only thing that would have prevented my pregnancy. becuase if my mom was understanding about it, I would have gone on some form of birth control, and probably NOT had sex in the first place. ^^;;
I've already decided that when my girls start their period I'm going to get them on birth control. Not for the pregnancy prevention, but for knowing exactly when their periods will show up. I hated not knowing! Drove me crazy some school days just waiting, or being surprised. o.o

 


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