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Old 05-27-2007, 03:34 PM

I have seen this documentary and I would share some ideas with you, please take the time to read, I think we can do much if we really want to.
If you dont agree please express yourself politely as I would if I wouldnt agree with you, thanks.

An Inconvenient Truth
Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb. If the vast majority of the world's scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced.

If that sounds like a recipe for serious gloom and doom -- think again. From director Davis Guggenheim comes the Sundance Film Festival hit, AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH, which offers a passionate and inspirational look at one man's fervent crusade to halt global warming's deadly progress in its tracks by exposing the myths and misconceptions that surround it. That man is former Vice President Al Gore, who, in the wake of defeat in the 2000 election, re-set the course of his life to focus on a last-ditch, all-out effort to help save the planet from irrevocable change. In this eye-opening and poignant portrait of Gore and his "traveling global warming show," Gore also proves himself to be one of the most misunderstood characters in modern American public life. Here he is seen as never before in the media - funny, engaging, open and downright on fire about getting the surprisingly stirring truth about what he calls our "planetary emergency" out to ordinary citizens before it's too late.

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Old 05-27-2007, 03:35 PM

With 2005, the worst storm season ever experienced in America just behind us, it seems we may be reaching a tipping point - and Gore pulls no punches in explaining the dire situation. Interspersed with the bracing facts and future predictions is the story of Gore's personal journey: from an idealistic college student who first saw a massive environmental crisis looming; to a young Senator facing a harrowing family tragedy that altered his perspective, to the man who almost became President but instead returned to the most important cause of his life - convinced that there is still time to make a difference.

With wit, smarts and hope, AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH ultimately brings home Gore's persuasive argument that we can no longer afford to view global warming as a political issue - rather, it is the biggest moral challenges facing our global civilization.

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Old 05-27-2007, 05:08 PM

I haven't seen that documentary yet, but we've had plenty enough on the TV already over here (we had an entire week devoted to it, numerous animal documentaries mention it) I don't think I need to. @[email protected]

I want to know why it's taken most of America so long to wake up to this.

But the problem isn't just with carbon dioxide; methane's a problem, and there's another gas on the rise but I can't for the life of me remember what it is without ploughing through the New Scientist.

Heh, not to mention other forms of pollution.

I mean, ideally, we all need to eat less meat, put the fast food chains out of business because cutting down forests to make room for MORE lifestock... That's removing CO2 removers and creating MORE methane. And soy.

On the stables my sister goes to, a group of men have developed some more biodiesel... and I don't get what the whole fuss with windturbines, etc, is about. Yeees, it spoils the view, but would you rather a spoiled view than no view, sillies?

Sorry, rant over. : D;

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Old 05-27-2007, 07:23 PM

The movie focuses on more than CO2 emmissions, but considering that correcting the CO2 emmissions is easier and more feasible right now than anything else, it makes sense they focus on it. The average person can make a difference with their CO2 in their personal lives.

The biggest producer of methane gas is the pockets being released by the melting ice caps--so we stop the ice caps melting we stop the methan from being released.

@[email protected]; And ethanol. Ethanol.

And.. *Brain fart* More stuff.

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Old 05-27-2007, 11:16 PM

Well I feel happy that at least 2 people posted here, I was afradi no one would, and I really wanted to spread the word and start a debate see what everyone thinks thank you

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Old 05-28-2007, 07:21 AM

There's already a topic in General Discussion, but it'd be cool to have one over here as well.

I'll see what I can find in terms of material. : )

And I don't know, Stilettolover, I thinking cutting down on lifestock and fast food would help to knock out two birds with one stone. Of course, if the goverment were to take charge on the evidence that's available and start forcing change (which seems more and more needed) they'd be accused of being a Nanny State... So tough.

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Old 05-28-2007, 09:24 AM

i've heard of that documentary...and the 10year lifespan left.
I actually expected the world to end in 2012 like the Mayan civilization has predicted..
anyway, businesses and environmentalists have already started to adjust to our current environmental issue of extreme weather. I figure that if everybody just follows along to what environmentalists suggest, then we should be fine.

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Old 05-28-2007, 01:38 PM

you know what I believe in the mayan calendar too...even if it is not exact I think we will be soon dead by one reason or the other it is so obvious and still 2 people votes on my poll taht they dont care .....see?

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Old 05-28-2007, 01:48 PM

Noo... I think the population of Menewsha is still small and not too many people hang around this part of the forum.

: x I also know that most of my peers care, and the TV and papers in our country have been doing wonders to spread the word.

There's also the other thread to think about, though a lot of people there seem skeptical it exists - or if it does it's way overblown by the media and that global temperatures have fluctuated before.

...Which they have. But all the reasonable evidence - ie, the evidence that isn't playing scapegoat and honing in on smaller aspects like solar winds and shizzle without accounting for other evidence - points towards human behaviour being responsible.

I'm going to hit my internet soon, though. It would load the New Scientist website. >__<

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Old 05-28-2007, 02:45 PM

Well that is good !!!! I am glad to have good news and you say your prrs care and that is wonderful really.
I start little campaigns at school, also I wrote this same thing on my profile on Gaia since Im kinda popular there and so people will pay attention to it...
I have made coies of the movie for people I care for them to see it...
I think evidence is so vivid, I dont know how to call it but...have you seen the news lately? there is a new cathergory of people called enviromental refugees, and they are building them new homes because they have lost everything, and here in my country we have had coastline towns which have been destroyed by water...and you see the houses all covered, people have lost everything.....you see it everyday...
I have a friend in Holland and experts say that Holland will partially disappear on its north coast due to water....so will many places...
but people is so blind and selfish most of the time...

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Old 05-28-2007, 02:49 PM


I didn't saw the movie and I'm not living in the Usa so I don't know how people react to this but in france it's been a while since we tried to instal things to prevent global warming and protect the environment. As for 10 year only... that's maybe a bit too short >.< I think there is more but some things will change that's right.

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Old 05-28-2007, 02:54 PM

Hello , nothing agains France my parents come from there, but France did a horrible thing trying to drop nuclear wastes on the mediterranean and atlantic >.< that was one of the worst things ever, USA did worst and so many other nations too...I live in a totally neutral country, we do not do much harm to the enviroment but we have our policies too...our mayor porblem is to avoid other nations to install toxic factories here...

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Old 05-28-2007, 03:00 PM

I realize that there are a lot of environmental problems and humans are to blame for not most, but all of them... but I honestly don't see people caring. Unfortunately, thats just the way our species is. We couldn't care less about the environment if it means inconveniencing ourselves. And while I think it's a great thing that Gore is out there trying to spread the word, I somehow doubt anything will come of it. This is just how people are.

The greater majority wont care until the proverbial shit hits the fan and there's no turning back.

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Old 05-28-2007, 03:33 PM

I know....but as he says and demostrates on the video...if at least one person changes others will and the change is possible....I hate thinking of the weather changes we are having in my country, extreme hot and between a week extreme cold...that is just not the world I want to live in....we are dying of new versions of cold because of this....everybody is so sick all the time....
Im sick myself right now and cannot work...and I just hate it...cause you know how ppl is with work....
they give you 2 days for a cold but new colds are taking 2 weeks in healing....
this is not really the world I want for my future children...

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:08 PM

Actually, our school is part of the eco schools program. : )

Which is pretty cool. We have green cardboard bins for paper and recycling and stuff.

The continent's way ahead though. France and Germany and everywhere else I've been have always seemed to be up to more in ways of recycling, conserving water, etc, etc... >_<

Still have a long way to go...

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:40 PM

I agree, the USA loses the wastes and rubbish battle for far against europe, but well in myc ountry we have to improve too but most areas have cleaning programs and we are working on some rivers....it is sad my country is so beautifu and rich on nature and you see the glaciar Perito Moreno is melting T___T there wont be enough water...

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Old 05-28-2007, 07:50 PM

I have seen the documentary. My school recycles and we are hoping to put up wind machines so our school is more energy efficient and it will pay for itself in about four years and will help reduce CO2 emissions.

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Old 05-28-2007, 10:38 PM

Zye that is sooo good where are you from? I love hearing from schools and people who actually DO something about it

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Old 05-29-2007, 06:22 AM

I have seen it. Remind me of the film, "The Day After Tomorrow" in some way...
In my school, my physic teacher is working with the district, professors, Script Research Institution, and various places in projects that head toward the use of renewable energy.
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but people is so blind and selfish most of the time...
Perhaps. The flaw that leads to many others is ignorance. I understand Trinity's point of how lacking the world can be. Change is always possible. Personally, I believe the easiest thing everyone can do if they overcome their blindness is not eat meat at all. Not only it contributes to the reduced emission of CO2, but it also contributes to the overall morals of the world. In other word, spiritual and scientific advancement go together. They must be balance out. Just like how wisdom and knowledge go together. It's rather crucial, but most people regard it unfortunately. If one thing doesn't balance out the other, they will be destroy altogether.

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Old 05-29-2007, 08:03 AM

Now, I don't believe in that. : O

I model my preferred diet on the diet of Chimps; I think we need meat, but not to the extent we in England and America (and other parts of Europe) wolf it down. Chimps don't pass up the opportunity for extra protein; we've just taken it too far since it's available to us. It should be a suppliment to a vedgy diet, not take the main stand. >__<

It's like, in Greece and Italy and the Med they eat more vedge with their meat. I looove food like that.

And animals eat other animals; we're technically omnivores; you have to be so, soo careful if you take on a vegan diet, and deforestation occurs for things like soy and that's hardly helping the environment either. So I don't see giving up eating meat as the answer, more reducing our consumption.

>: And altering/getting rid of fast food chains.

: D But McDonalds has been shaping up its act in the UK, I don't know about the US.

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Old 05-29-2007, 08:08 AM

xD! YAY JAMIE OLIVER!

That thought just struck me.

Have any of you guys heard of him? : )

He took on the task of changing school dinners (getting rid of dreaded processed food, chips, his worst enemy the turkey twizzler, introducing salad, fish, all things good and green and fresh and wholesome!) did a TV series about it. Eventually he got enough attention to bully the goverment into altering its policies. : )

;3; But kids still eat crap. They got their mothers to pass them stuff from the local chippie through the fence at lunch time. The parents didn't want them to go hungry. Eeeverything has to be convenient.

But this kids didn't know where pasta comes from, or eggs, or milk in some cases. @[email protected]

It was frightening. It's not like I grew up on a farm or anything, or live particularly in the country, but learnt a lot of my stuff through children's TV. Which seems to have gone downhill or I was just more perceptive than most.

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Old 05-29-2007, 09:40 PM

I think it's great that people on this site are aware of the problem. :D
I hate it so much when I am talking to someone about it and they think it's some conspiracy or something. :evil:
I swear people are so dumb.
why would the government create this conspiracy and not deal with it.
I say all it would do is invite more people to have a bad view of the government.
so it's not a conspiracy dammit!!
I'm just happy that there's more people that are intelligent on this earth than I thought. :)

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Old 05-30-2007, 01:09 AM


  • Humanity is a sad existence.

    It won't do something about a thread till it directly affects each and every one
    of them. With that said, yes, I believe Global Warming is a great threat, and
    everyone should already be taking precautions to prevent it.

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Old 05-30-2007, 04:57 AM

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And animals eat other animals; we're technically omnivores; you have to be so, soo careful if you take on a vegan diet, and deforestation occurs for things like soy and that's hardly helping the environment either. So I don't see giving up eating meat as the answer, more reducing our consumption.
Animals eat the other animals because they lack the ability to grow foods for themselves. We can since we have the intelligence to do so. People who are on vegan or a vegetarian diet live healthy. It helps reduce the various diseases and obesity. The world's big enough to have vegetable farms and we would not worry about deforestation. As we are advancing toward nanotech and other advancement, we can learn to farm more effectively than the old chop and burn techique. There are already been studies and experiments upon effective farming done by individuals. If we have the will to change ourselves for the better, then becoming vegetarians or vegans are not impossible and that will not do us any harm. It's just our stingyness and unwillingness to change affect how we look at things. Look at the number of acres of land that we cut down forest to farm animals in order to meet the world's demand of meat. Cows, chickens, ect. take years to develop fully until they are send to the slaughter house while plants take less. They eat up grass, plants, vegetables, dirt, insects, and among other things. Therefore instead of raising cows and poor harmless beings, we can still live. (Even healthier w/o meats)

People like to eat meat because it has been a long tradition. A baby just come to life; it doesn't automatically like to eat and can't live without it. Eating meat is just a habit that mankind unfortunately has developed over the years. Not only eating meats appear to be feeding yourself poison over the years, it also harm the enviroment greatly. When you look at the overall picture, it seems to me that what destroy us all is our selfishness and inconsideration with what's around us. There are solutions. That's why we're here to discuss them and encourage them.

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Old 05-30-2007, 07:02 AM

  • That's right. D:

    I've seen the documentary. I think I even have a CD. It scared me a bit. In a good way. They let us watch it in school last year. Obviously informing us of humanity's current situation, and trying to advise us to try and take into considertaion the state of our environment to prevent global warming. I belibve it's happening right now, as we speak.

    I know a lot of people and doing their best to help and prevent global warming and the huge threat it brings along with it, but not all people know or care about the situation at all. Though it's good Mene is aware of all this. No really, who wouldn't.

 


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