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Old 06-12-2007, 05:19 AM

@Ayu-I'm trying to pick which OC of yours to draw...and how I wish I knew how to draw girls xDDDD

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#302
Old 06-12-2007, 08:44 AM

>.> I want Dandy clothes, but they're impossible to find in the Philippines. No one has ever heard of Lolita other than the anime fans >.> And there are only a few thousand as opposed to the millions of Filipinos @[email protected]

I want a top hat and cute clothes, Plzthxbai >.>

Ehahahahaha >.>

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#303
Old 06-12-2007, 08:59 AM

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I apologize for coming off as rude, then. XD

And I'm sorry for engaging you in a sort-of debate. I understand your predicament now.

I'd say that, if you like something, like it. D: You shouldn't have to worry about whether or not it's what a feminist should like.

The thing I don't get about feminism is that they're trying to force women, often times (Not saying you are, or most are, but many still do) into being like them, or looking a way that they feel many women should look like. Because it's not what men want, or something. I'm not sure. And many of these women say that they are fighting so that women can be free from male oppression and whatever. How? By being oppressed by our own gender?

It just doesn't make sense to me. Though I could be biased. I live in Portland, Oregon. Everyone here is like that, and they get on my nerves. >_>;
Ehh. I do like Lolita. I'm not worrying about whether a feminist should like it so much as worrying about what messages I'm displaying when I put my clothes on, and whether they're internally consistent with my beliefs.
As much as I don't think women should be shunned if they don't follow certain beauty standards, I don't think they should be shunned if they do either.
I just am not sure of what do do personally, and I guess I'll sort myself out. I do love lolita, and I think, regardless of my beleifs, having a hobby like sewing will be good for me.

It's the first hobby I've been interested in for a long time, and seeing as how I get depressed a lot and I don't have any hobbies, I reckon that's a good reason to keep doing it in and of itself.

Women who try and force women to do things... I can see why they'd do it, I guess it's like a Christian who wants to force non Christians to follow the word of god. They really think if every woman resisteed and subverted the status quo, that patriarchy would be eliminated and then we could all go and make our own free choices.
I think that's a very simplistic view. Not only because I don't see how every woman not shaving will really get rid of patriarchy, but also because it's unfair to assume all women want to give up the things they do, or want to change.

When people say not to dress a certain way because it's not what men want, I'd say because it's not what society wants. but yeah...
(This is my closest argument making lolita okay actually. The one that seems the most internally consistant. Society doesn't like the lolita look, and lolita's aren't aren't a part of 'raunch culture' they're dignified. I like that.)

I think feminists who tell non-feminist women what to do... I don't know if they really 'get it' or maybe they're upset and wish the world would change faster.

I think they are to Feminism, like the guy who tries to force the bible down your throat is to Christianity. >.<

I've only met a few real life feminists, and we never really get to talk about feminism much. I think I know one of the feminists who lives in portland though. Her net name is Sam, and personally, I think she's amazing. ^^

I wonder what it would be like there for a gal like me....

[edit] Awww, Santa Claus is amazing!

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#304
Old 06-12-2007, 12:33 PM

Toilet- : D ??? I have too many, don't I? XD

Alex- XDDD God I wish people would make more crack about Santa the other 11 months of the year.

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#305
Old 06-12-2007, 12:37 PM

@Ayu-I used to have way more for WAB..(mostly females) till I decided not to have them and killed them off xDDD;;;;;
I just wish my females weren't so fugly..that it wouldn't burn your eyes out if I drew any TBM chick xDDD
Maybe I might do Schey...*ponders*

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#306
Old 06-12-2007, 12:41 PM

XDDD Well most of my males are pretty close to females, anyway. I used a male friend as a model for Elliot but the kid's a male cheerleader and has an hourglass figure 8D

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:44 PM

xD I've tried to trick my self into drawing a really really girly guy with a bust and more hip shape....doesn't work though =w=;;;;
Oh..really? 8DDD
I remember when I first designed Blaze in big eyes...short hair....really anorexic figure...xDDDDD *remembers her crappy old drawings from wayyyyy back*
Damn...I wish I had some of my ancient eyebleeding art that I could scan and show to you...xDDD

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#308
Old 06-12-2007, 12:47 PM

XD DOn't be afraid of drawing girls! Just practice! (had the same problem for a while)

XDDD I got rid of most of my old drawings... But I think there are some really fugly ones from when I was 11 still on my dA XDDD I won't ask to see yours unless you're okay with that. Most people I know won't share.

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#309
Old 06-12-2007, 12:53 PM

I'll try...*^*;; Damn...right now...my girls just scare me xDDD I have trouble with the mouths....:/

I think the oldest ones that are in my gallery are from when I was 14-early 15.....owo;; Me being on gaia has improved my art by a decent amount I think 8D;;;
Snouty looking old art mine used to be...I hope that isn't the case now...D8

You young artist! xDDD I started when I met Solo....so about 14 at that time? xDD;;;;

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#310
Old 06-12-2007, 12:54 PM

Whoa--That's pretty late.

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#311
Old 06-12-2007, 12:56 PM

It is xDDD I still need help on faces and body proportions... xO I feel like a newbie~ xDDDD

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#312
Old 06-12-2007, 12:58 PM

But dude, you've been drawing for just this little time and already you're good XD Here I've been drawing my whole life and still ain't satisfied!

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#313
Old 06-12-2007, 01:01 PM

Whut? Noway xDD
But your art is unique and elegant-ish...D: <333

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#314
Old 06-12-2007, 01:09 PM

Bull crap XO

BRB, I gotta help Dad in the yard.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:14 PM

Back ><

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#316
Old 06-12-2007, 01:26 PM

It's ok xDD Mom got mad ><

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#317
Old 06-12-2007, 01:27 PM

XO That's all moms are doing lately.

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#318
Old 06-12-2007, 01:30 PM

I know..D: She was mad at my lil sister...took it out on me..=w=;;;;

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:33 PM

Not fair =~=

Mom gets mad at Dad and takes it out on me and my sister since he leaves home alot.

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#320
Old 06-12-2007, 01:35 PM

*pats* D:
My dad sometimes has to leave home for work trips...dun like it cause mom has her "anger level" just SHOOT up xDD

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:36 PM

XDDD Better get an umbrella for when she actually does explode (she will, I've seen it before)

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#322
Old 06-12-2007, 01:37 PM

O_____O *adds onto her shopping list*

Oh my.....xDD;;;

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#323
Old 06-12-2007, 01:41 PM

Mum exploded two days ago >>;;;

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:42 PM

...And you got caught in the explosion I believe? ><;;

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:44 PM

No... I tried to ignore it by sleeping, but she was too loud throwing things around and screaming.

 


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