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07-10-2007, 03:10 AM
So, my thread just got moved to the staff section on Menewsha because it was deemed not fitting to be talked about on Menewsha. So I was you, Menewsha users. How do you feel about the censorship? I mean yeah, you shouldn't be having cyber sex, posting porn, saying fuck.
But I felt my topic had a legitimate discussion value. Where should the line be drawn? I've noticed that a lot of unsavory threads on Gaia tend to be allowed to stay, if there is a legitmate discussion going on. If nothing else, atleast Gaia allows that.
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07-10-2007, 03:13 AM
Aww and I liked my post in it too. We were acting rather mature about it and it was a debatable topic. I think as long as it isn't grossly descriptive then its all fair. That would make the most sense, in terms of whats appropriate and what isn't.
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07-10-2007, 03:16 AM
I don't see how people can discuss homosexuality, incest and underage sex without skiting the topic of sex, which to me seemed to be the reason it was moved. Meh.....
So about you? If you were the admin of a site, where would YOU draw the line? no sex discussions? no porn?
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07-10-2007, 03:20 AM
Really depends on the site and community itself. Also how long the site has been up. Discussion about it is merely up to the user and they are held accountable for those they offend. Other then that, its all game except porn. Of course censorship is a must to make sure the entire lot of people is treated equally, but to an extent. I'm all up for people expressing their opinions the way they want to express it rather then editing their posts to fit rules and requirements are they are punished, or not heard.
As long as sex is discussed maturely then all should be respected, its an important factor of life, for pleasure and reproduction. Morals, beliefs and religion also play a role into how one views sex, so stating opinions and hearing opinions allows one to understand aspects of sex from a different perspective.
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07-10-2007, 03:27 AM
Maybe it's the oral sex issue then? I suppose at first glance, it might have seemed to be a lewd topic, but I fully intended to discuss the situation. I guess it's just a case by case basis? But who is Aeris to make such a call? Is she the soul founder of the morals of everyone on Menewsha? Until someone complains about the topic, I think it should have been left alone.
I mean, if it offends you, don't read it? I hate reading about fags so I avoid those topics, where I know my opinion on them is not needed or wanted. Out of respect for my fellow users. I feel like I should get the same consideration, even though blow jobs is a far cry from fags.
Or maybe not... lol.
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07-10-2007, 03:36 AM
Yes, I usually tend to wait for complaints for dealing with grey matter situations. Double standards, and other shit come into play quite frequently. As a administrator you got to do what you feel is right despite how it'll effect a certain group of people. Got to use your gut and hope you did the right thing most of the time.
Through all my experience, I have learned for the most part, leniency is the best way to go, and depending on reactions you go from there. Of course that doesn't work with everything, but for posting iffy topics, it usually does.
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07-10-2007, 03:41 AM
I guess there isn't much you can do. I mean, some things can be discussed, and some things can't on Menewsha. If it's just talking, I don't see what the problem is. If was saying something like..
"Should I take it in the ass tonight, or let him cum in my face?'
then yeah, I can see how that would be moved. I still feel my thread was unjustly moved, simply because it mentioned a blow job. I guess I will have to get to used to Menewsha's strict rules and censorship. OH BABY lock me! haha
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07-10-2007, 04:57 AM
It was more the fact that people may turn the discussion into something innapropriate.
You stated the discussion fine, no offence made.
But there are more immature people around, and we all have to face that.
It would only take one person posting in your thread to ruin your whole purpose of it.
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07-10-2007, 05:05 AM
- I haven't seen the thread, so I cannot say if it was inappropriate or not. But I agree with Areis, it only takes one immature comment to turn the entire conversation down the wrong path. If it was anything sex related, then it would need to be monitored to avoid certain things from being said. Such as overly sexual and unnecessary comments. If it was a true discussion, I would encourage you to take it offsite to discuss with anyone who originally showed interest.
(The problem with that would be no one else could join the conversation. win/lose situation.)
We are free to say as we like, which is often the debate when someone removes a thread. But, I would also hope that users of Menewsha would have respect for each other and avoid purposing making threads that would be offensive, so you don't find yourself in such a situation. But AGAIN! Heh, I haven't seen the thread, so I cannot directly comment on yours. Even if you think it was a worthy discussion, it might have been easily corrupted, and people can get carried away.
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07-10-2007, 07:22 AM
I saw your thread and I was actually the one that saw to see it be trashed. While what you said really wasn't offensive to anyone, and it would be really naive of me to say, "Most of the people here are more underage than not and shouldn't be reading that sort of thing," I felt too that it may lead into something a little less than comfortable down the line especially placed in the GD.
If you weren't as direct with what you were doing, saying you did such a thing with the guy with the truck, or maybe just talking about favors in general, I could have allowed it to be kept there. While you refer to Gaia's GD to be more lenient, I personally rather not see our GD become that way. Ugh I just went on there and their GD is a mess. XD;;
Also, what other unsavory threads are you talking about?
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07-10-2007, 07:57 AM
- As far as what Hottie Dragon Gurl says about unsavory threads on Gaia, the most memorible one I can think of was placed in the GD on Gaia over 2 years ago. It was a serious discussion about a girl who had romantic feelings for her brother. She choose a rather... unsuitable thead title though.
Was something along the lines of "I want to bang my brother" which can be taken totally the wrong way if you didn't read her first post. The conversation lasted for a really long time. Made it well over 50 pages within 8 hours and she managed to conduct herself in a very polite manner, explaining her feelings, asking for advice on what to do. She had to deal with a lot of 'that's sick! What's the wrong with you?!?!' comments, which she dealt with very well, I thought.
I suppose when dealing with delicate topics it depends on how you word it, and not so much what is being said. I was rather sad when the thread got locked because some of the other users got carried away with flaming her, because it was one of the best online discussions I've seen. I thought it would have been better to allow her to block those users from her thread, and have her change the title to something less offensive. (This all happened before the GD exploded into what it currently is on Gaia, so the circumstances are little different.)
After the thread got locked, a lot of users complained that it was unfair, but there isn't much you can do. She ended up carrying out the story (which has a terribly sad ending after she told him) through her journal, which had a lot of feedback from many users.
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07-10-2007, 08:34 PM
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I saw your thread and I was actually the one that saw to see it be trashed. While what you said really wasn't offensive to anyone, and it would be really naive of me to say, "Most of the people here are more underage than not and shouldn't be reading that sort of thing," I felt too that it may lead into something a little less than comfortable down the line especially placed in the GD.
If you weren't as direct with what you were doing, saying you did such a thing with the guy with the truck, or maybe just talking about favors in general, I could have allowed it to be kept there. While you refer to Gaia's GD to be more lenient, I personally rather not see our GD become that way. Ugh I just went on there and their GD is a mess. XD;;
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okay so I didn't see the thread so I don't what had been posted there exactly what are you saying that if a thread is just talking about sex it is more likely to be closed then one where someone is explaining they just, for example, when down on someone? :?
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07-11-2007, 12:32 AM
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I saw your thread and I was actually the one that saw to see it be trashed. While what you said really wasn't offensive to anyone, and it would be really naive of me to say, "Most of the people here are more underage than not and shouldn't be reading that sort of thing," I felt too that it may lead into something a little less than comfortable down the line especially placed in the GD.
If you weren't as direct with what you were doing, saying you did such a thing with the guy with the truck, or maybe just talking about favors in general, I could have allowed it to be kept there. While you refer to Gaia's GD to be more lenient, I personally rather not see our GD become that way. Ugh I just went on there and their GD is a mess. XD;;
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okay so I didn't see the thread so I don't what had been posted there exactly what are you saying that if a thread is just talking about sex it is more likely to be closed then one where someone is explaining they just, for example, when down on someone? :?
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My thread was discussion about how I went on a date with a guy, and engaged in sexual activities, and then I asked him a few days later if I could borrow his truck. The guy thought I was trading oral sex for the use of his truck. I was wondering what people's opinions on this was. The thread got closed after one reply because of the nature of discussion.
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07-11-2007, 03:57 AM
- Hhhmm, if i was an admin...
Well, if i was an admin, there would be no guideline of posting >.>;;;;
I'm all hands for freedom of speech on the internet.
Well, if extreme things are to be discussed, i'd allow it, even flaming and what not... except maybe porn...
I dunno, i get used to alot of forums like Gaiadrama, sinfest forums, other no guideline posting forums. If you post something and other flame against you, you either ignore them or make a clearer point and try to not get hurt by words...i'm this kind of person. But this could be a whole other topic
But i'm nut so :lol: Yeah...
Basically, i'm okay with anything except porn posting...unless we're on age xD and maybe extreme situations like cyber-war or something or disgusting images or things without warnings.
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07-11-2007, 06:40 AM
I am considerably older than most of the members of this site. I have children the same age as some of the people that post here. Since I have not seen your thread I cannot comment directly on what exactly was said, however, because I am aware that there are 13 (and in some cases younger, they lie to sign up) year olds and up that frequent this site, the topic of sex and either participating in or discussing has to be done very carefully.
I am not one to censor and since I did not see your thread I cannot say if I would have moved it at all, maybe to the debate forum or life issues or something (not sure where it started). I don't know. I think the maturity overall of this site would be able to speak in innuendo (as many of us have in various RPs and other discussions) without blatently calling out the act itself (whatever that may be).
I think though, that thanks to the internet, movies, and television, there is no way to shelter the young ones from such things. It's going to come up. I would like to see Menewsha forums discuss a large range of things without us having to worry about whether or not our thread will get trashed, so long as it is done tastefully and tactfully.
And as far as your topic is concerned, I would have been highly offended if a guy even suggested such a thing.
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07-11-2007, 12:27 PM
Don't forget that this is menewsha, and not gaia.
I actually like the menewshan community better since we're a lot more literate and such topics won't get bombarded with immature comments and flaming. Well, at least not as much anyway o_O
As much as you want to talk about sex, porn, and say fuck all day long, make sure your purpose for the discussion is discussed maturely and is not inappropriate.
Most important of all, think about the other people in this community. It's not all about you and what you think is alright to talk about okay? You gotta respect other people and there is bound to be several individuals who will get offended on topics about sex, porn, blowjobs, fuck and the likes.
I know what you may be thinking. Well if those people get offended by such topics, why can't they just ignore them?
Unfortunately, titles are capable of irking people.
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07-11-2007, 09:08 PM
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I am considerably older than most of the members of this site. I have children the same age as some of the people that post here. Since I have not seen your thread I cannot comment directly on what exactly was said, however, because I am aware that there are 13 (and in some cases younger, they lie to sign up) year olds and up that frequent this site, the topic of sex and either participating in or discussing has to be done very carefully.
I am not one to censor and since I did not see your thread I cannot say if I would have moved it at all, maybe to the debate forum or life issues or something (not sure where it started). I don't know. I think the maturity overall of this site would be able to speak in innuendo (as many of us have in various RPs and other discussions) without blatently calling out the act itself (whatever that may be).
I think though, that thanks to the internet, movies, and television, there is no way to shelter the young ones from such things. It's going to come up. I would like to see Menewsha forums discuss a large range of things without us having to worry about whether or not our thread will get trashed, so long as it is done tastefully and tactfully.
And as far as your topic is concerned, I would have been highly offended if a guy even suggested such a thing.
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From what I understand, since I talked to Miss Dragon Gurl over MSN about it, it wasn't descriptive in the details of what she did, but only mentioned that she gave him oral, and then a few days later the guy accused her of whoring herself out to him, so she could borrow his truck. I wish I could see the first post of the thread, so that we could get an idea of exactly why it was moved.
It's a matter of opinion, if the way she worded it was inappropriate. I'm dying of curiosity now.
Trinxie.
Online community is much like real life. I don't care for seeing two girls gagging each other with the tongues on the corner, but rather then yelling at them and telling them to take it elsewhere, I simply look the other way. Much the way it should be on any forum. If you don't like the topic of discussion, don't discuss it. Don't bother to continue reading it.
Porn, descriptive sex acts and things of that nature should be removed from the site. But as far as her looking for opinions on this guy accusing her trading a blow job for the use of his truck, I don't see how that could be deemed offensive to users as a whole. It's totally a case by case basis.
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07-11-2007, 09:55 PM
LOL, me too Vanity (Maddie is my mule ;)) I agree that it probably was a topic worth discussing and as long as it isn't blatantly descriptive as to what was done (I have an imagination and well... I have kids, so I can probably figure out the details, lmao) it should be allowed. I guess it was the first post that got it moved. Too bad.
Now if someone told me I was whoring myself out for something material like a truck, I would probably punch him. I can get a ride if I need to. No need to reduce myself to giving sexual favors.
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07-12-2007, 04:11 AM
There has to be a place to draw the line though, if rules are made and your thread violates those rules a line HAS to be drawn. If a Mod let you off the hook or didnt do his/her job then where would these forums go to?
If your given "special" treatment, why shouldn't anyone else be given "special" treatment...
the mods on gaia are jammed with problems, gaia is a multi million user site and it by far is 20-30 items bigger then mene, the mods there don't always have time as they are busy enforcing the law elsewhere, patience IS a virtue on gaia..
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07-13-2007, 04:52 AM
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There has to be a place to draw the line though, if rules are made and your thread violates those rules a line HAS to be drawn. If a Mod let you off the hook or didnt do his/her job then where would these forums go to?
If your given "special" treatment, why shouldn't anyone else be given "special" treatment...
the mods on gaia are jammed with problems, gaia is a multi million user site and it by far is 20-30 items bigger then mene, the mods there don't always have time as they are busy enforcing the law elsewhere, patience IS a virtue on gaia..
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- And do you think Hottie Dragon Gurl's discussion was way too offensive to be on Menewsha? I think she had a valid conversation topic. It's not about her getting special treatment. It's about you being okay with them deleted her thread because of the content. I see it being discussed here, and now it is acceptable.
I don't see the difference, is my point I guess. And something I would like to add to this discussion. Who do you complain to when you feel a moderator has deleted a thread that didn't need to be?
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07-13-2007, 05:46 AM
Well as far as your topic I have no clue what you said on it. Also, as far as I know, I can use the word fuck all I want. Though as long as it is not spam.
While Menewsha is not Gaia, you know with out the GD and CB to add all those meaningless discussions you were talking about. It's really not the hard to find where what topic goes where.
Now as an adult, online, on community's such as these, I hate the idea that because of what the site is, avatars, that it must be for children and that i have to always censor myself, see the word fuck. Now while i know people on here have kids and let them come on here, that is there choice, along with knowing that it's hard to keep children now days sheltered for the world.
So while porn topics should not really be discussed here, well actually depends on the matter of the subject, wether it is a debate topic on the matter or just a sex thread. But anyways. yes certain topics should not be on a PG-13 site, some things are.
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07-13-2007, 08:14 AM
Absolutely there has to be a line. The mods have the entire community to consider, not just the whims of a few people.
I think though that there is a big difference between discussing sexual acts and discussing details and actions of said acts. The latter definitly does not belong on a site that is PG-13. The younger crowd doesn't need to know the explicit details, they will come of age and find out for themselves, although I suspect most already know the details but haven't experienced them. In any case they shouldn't have a detailed discussion about it thrown in their face. If I caught my 13 year old reading something very detailed and granular I'd be like What site are you on??! But being her mother if she had questions about it then I would discuss it with her right then rather than punishing her for reading it. She might be mortified that she got caught reading such things but that is something else entirely.
If I see that she is reading about a girl who liked a boy enough to engage in a sexual act and because of that his view of her changed (right, wrong, or otherwise) I would see nothing wrong with her discussing that online or with me.
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07-13-2007, 10:04 PM
- Well, since we aren't sure where the line should be, according to the moderators, perhaps the best way to go about it would be to ask permission from the mods before you post a thread like Hottie Dragon Gurl did.
I really wish they would post her thread in here atleast, just the first post, so we can decide for ourselves it's unsuited. Especially since we're all discussing this in a mature way and not being rude or offensive about it. We all seem to be discussing hypothetical posts she could have made. She mentioned on MSN what it was, but she said she couldn't 100% remember the way she worded it.
I wonder if any mods will be willing to do such a thing?
and I think Miss Sparrow made a good point, that there is nothing wrong with discussing the guys reaction to a girl having a sexual interactions with a him. I think her discussion, from what I understand, was more about what happened because of that, and what she did afterwards, rather than the details of what she did to him in the bedroom. Sex is a subject bound to come up.
With the way life online is today, I'd promote mature discussion about sex and the things related. I'm much rather Hottie Dragon Gurl have a discussion on Menewsha, with a smaller, more mature community than post it on Gaia looking for a conversation about it. We all know what happens to any thread discussing sex there.
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07-13-2007, 11:31 PM
I guess they just don't want to hear the truth... their site is not nearly as awesome as gaia. On gaia I'm actually not afraid to post. I'm still gonna give this place a shot though. I must say I like the avartars here the best. =D
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07-13-2007, 11:35 PM
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I guess they just don't want to hear the truth... their site is not nearly as awesome as gaia. On gaia I'm actually not afraid to post. I'm still gonna give this place a shot though. I must say I like the avartars here the best. =D
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- I agree, I'm not afraid to post anything on Gaia, but at the same time, neither is anyone else. Which leaves it open to a lot of trolling and bad language. I have no problem with cursing, if it's not used excessively. I enjoy Menewsha, for this very reason.
Most of use tend to be literate and mature, unlike Gaia.
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