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12-05-2007, 10:21 PM
I think your English is great. I wouldn't have thought it wasn't your native language at all.
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12-05-2007, 11:12 PM
- My native language is Lithuanian o3o (Lithuania is in Northeastern Europe. Just below and to the right of Sweden and such :> ) So... it's nothing like English D:
Not to mention I'm completely self-taught :| So I do lots and lots of typos or grammatical errors. BUT, like I've said, I either accept that there WILL be mistakes and talk calmly as long as people understand what I'm saying, OR don't talk at all, because I sure as hell won't be able to avoid grammar mistakes.
It gets hard understanding slang or such sometimes @[email protected] Or separating British English writing from American English XwX Big, scary world of a strange language!
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12-06-2007, 12:43 AM
I think you sound just like a native, Varicose. At least in writing. No idea what you sound like in person.
<<,, I don't have a mule. I have a second account.
I hate the diminuative term mule. I treat my second account like another person, because in my head he is.
This account is Cami. She has roleplay origins, a history, likes and dislikes. All of this is the same for my other account. He and Cami never interact of course (as it's not allowed, but also they've never met in roleplay either. Completely different lives). But they each do their own things on the site, and I don't consider one lesser than the other.
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12-06-2007, 01:23 AM
d: Ducky is me and I don't role play, so there you have it. ^^;; If I had given my characters history etc that weren't my own I would probably not like the term either. But Melody Xyelle is the name my friends and I gave to a character in a magical girl series we created in our heads, and she transformed into the ducky princess. So they are the same person XD
I think your english is very good Vari <3 Even more so now that I know that you are self taught in it. If I ever use slang that you don't understand you can ask me to clarify what I mean (:
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12-06-2007, 01:30 AM
Hey everyone!
I went to a Lithuanian grade school. :3
You English is amazing Vari, I had no idea!
My new other account is just..me! XD
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12-06-2007, 07:35 AM
- Yeah, in person things might be worse.. but I definitely don't have that crazy Russian (or European- like Swedes) accent that is portrayed in movies!
*Varicose, basing her reality on movies since 5 years old.*
Thanks, guys :3 I think I've had quite a few people fooled during my journeys throughout the internet 8D;; I think American teenagers that have really bad grammar helped me look better >__>;
My mule is just a name I wanted to snatch :( Even though Varicose should be someone with a sarcastic sense of humor and slightly rowdy, I always end up being just myself. Meaning I'm not cheeky at all- I can only be sarcastic with really good friends that know I'm a pain in the ass, not with people who don't know and that I could possibly hurt or insult o3o
Snowflower, omg? Elaborate, plis! D:
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12-06-2007, 12:40 PM
American teenagers are pretty bad aren't they? I hope they grow out of the chatspeak phase because it really annoys me on other sites seeing people using numbers as letters and shortening words drastically. </3 It looks anything but professional. I hate it even more when you are on other sites and people beg while using bad grammar </3
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12-06-2007, 01:09 PM
- Y..yeaaah, I don't really like chatspeak. Well, stuff like lols and brbs seem fine, but shortening actual three letter words to a one letter word is just lazy x__x
I know quite a few smart, wholesome ( >> ) people who use chatspeak, but still. I think it leaves less of an impression.
American teenagers are crazy, though, I have to tell you. Maybe I hang around the wrong places, but I've not seen teenagers of other nationalities act even close :D;;;
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12-06-2007, 01:40 PM
oh no, I'll admit American teenagers are pretty bad. I think some of it is the rules put on them they feel they need to act out on them just to be different and not in the norm etc. Also there is a lot of pressure on them to be perfect and it is seriously hard to live up to that. I don't think there is as much pressure in other places. I could be wrong though. Since I've only ever lived here </3
Though I can't make excuses for some of the laziness I see out there. Back in high school and even after I was working, going to school, getting good grades, and keeping Scott happy d: though I would do homework with him a lot since we were in a couple of the same classes (:
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12-06-2007, 02:52 PM
Well, I certainly act like myself on this account far more than the character. <<,, The character is snarky, a bit mean (but in a devious way), and, more than anything else, chaotic.
I try to demonstrate that last part at least in her clothes. <<,,
The thing is, I don't really roleplay anymore, so it shouldn't bother me, but I'm never goint to treat either of my accounts like a mule. ;-; <3 them.
I think American teenagers just create their own rules. It's like Ebonics, really. Not accepted as it's own language, but operating on rules different than mainstream English.
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12-06-2007, 06:15 PM
- Melo, to tell the truth, American teenagers have no clue how much freedom they have. I've never heard about the pressure to be perfect, though.. But the freedom and overall flexibility of the culture is very different from what we have.
Over here you're forced to appear the best, always, otherwise "what will people think?!" Sure, you try not to care, but the constant pressure and things following that get to everyone in the end.
I don't think they are at all out of the norm, though- and that's not only with Americans. Subcultures, typing 1337, typing in proper grammar, being an elitist or a sarcastic twat, a creative snobby artist or a random hyper kid- it's all there, done before- done now, and it's not the least bit original.
I don't even see much of what's considered "norm", to tell the truth. I don't see much of those stereotypical people or 'gray masses'.
Amari-- snarky and mean? ;_; Aww, your character scares me :B
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12-06-2007, 06:22 PM
I've never experienced other cultures and so I don't really know how they are. I just know how it was for me ^^;;
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12-06-2007, 06:43 PM
<<,, I've been pressured to always appear perfect.
The fact is, Varicose, America is a huge country. Huuuuge. If you look at this link, there's a map showing the comparitive sizes of American and Europe. See how Europe easily and completely fits within the United States?
You can't really say that all Americans are the same any different than you can claim all Europeans are the same.
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12-06-2007, 06:56 PM
- Haha, did you just pretend I didn't know Europe's size comparison to the USA, Amari? :D;;;
And I'm not saying you don't have pressures, I'm saying you have a lot of freedoms we don't along with it.
For your own pressuring to be perfect- you seem to have done that well <33 ;3;
For example, home schooling alone. You basically need to be schizophrenic to even be considered for that here. And many things like that. Hell, we don't even have lockers :|
I'm not just making it up from what I could have seen on TV or on the internet, no. I know quite a few immigrant families, and they can tell the differences.
After all, we ain't massively migrating to the USA because it's very very bad to live there @[email protected]
(Have you guys heard about Lithuanians in the USA? I'm ashamed of my own nationality because of the things those little shitplugs do >| )
Of course I'm not claiming all Americans are the same- I'm saying all teenagers are. Very few are actually original, and most of the considered original 'personalities' are only cliche, if anything :/
I'm saying that because Emo has NOW come to Lithuania, and whoa, man xD It's bad when you start despising your own countrymen.
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12-06-2007, 09:37 PM
I'm against labels. XD But you don't want to hear me start on that.
The thing is (she says, starting on that) if someone chooses to label themselves, then I guess it's okay to use that label for them, but I don't think you should ever label yourself. Labels are limiting
And I could go on and on, but I'm done now. I swear. <<,,
I just forgot to post the link. XD
http://goeurope.about.com/od/europea...arison-map.htm
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12-06-2007, 09:48 PM
ha ha I love the emo culture/label. They make my laugh. <3 I kept seeing people back in Concord CA (back where I used to live) wearing long black pants, and long sleeved black goth like shirts walking around in 100 degree plus weather, with the trademark badly dyed emo hair cuts. It was amazing. I think they had to be crazy XD
>.> I think we can home school if we want to. I had neighbors back in military housing that would home school their kids because they moved around so much. I thought about it but decided that I would rather my kids get out into the world socially and just have friends from all around the country. (: It's more fun that way XD
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12-06-2007, 09:57 PM
Really religious people home school their children a lot because they don't want them to learn the sins that public school teaches.
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12-06-2007, 09:59 PM
XD my friend from housing didn't want to teach her kids about sex. :P she was so scared. Her oldest were twin 13 year old boys, and they still didn't know what sex was >.< I kinda felt bad for them. Because they are missing out on a lot of friends and what not. But at the same time... her family was all so close it was sweet to see them all together. XD they actually liked each other and all the kids played together... I guess there are up and down sides to it. I figure to keep religion separate from schooling. I'll teach them for their souls, and the school can teach them for their brains. though...I will help with that one too...
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12-06-2007, 10:07 PM
My parents have never said the word sex to me.
I got no birds and bees speech. XD
I have no idea how I know about sex. <<,, Friends, I guess. I know I learned details very late in life.
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12-06-2007, 10:16 PM
XD I learned about it from my brothers when I was like 5. my oldest brother was 7? I think and he had gotten the sex ed class in school. and when he came home he told me and my other older brother about it XD funny thing is I remember saying ew, no girl would ever let a guy do that to her, you're lying! XD the silly things children say XD
I don't remember my mom ever giving me the talk either, I learned about it again in school later on.
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12-06-2007, 11:47 PM
Hiya Cami. How are things today?
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12-07-2007, 12:18 AM
- If my family and I are eating dinner together and a sex/sexual scene comes on, we suddenly get this unexplainable interest in the bottom of our plates! I swear, we can't lift our eyes off of it :o
I really want home schooling. In the end, I want to study and I'd gladly give those last two years of socializing up if only I could both avoid the people and study, too.
But, alas, no home schooling unless you're completely crazy.
EDIT EDIT: Also, Amari, phooey >O That's only the western Europe in that map! The Baltic countries aren't even there, awww ;_; I am neglected.
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12-07-2007, 01:59 AM
I have peers whose children are home schooled but not for religious reasons. Home schooling isn't solely for the 'strict practices of faith'. There are schools for all walks of faith, catholic, etc.
I went to a Lithuanian Catholic grade school Vari called St. Casimir's. The school is closed now, but the beautiful church is still open. :3
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12-07-2007, 02:00 AM
I have peers whose children are home schooled but not for religious reasons. Home schooling isn't solely for the 'strict practices of faith'. There are schools for all walks of faith, catholic, etc.
I went to a Lithuanian Catholic grade school Vari called St. Casimir's. The school is closed now, but the beautiful church is still open. :3
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Cami
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12-07-2007, 03:46 AM
I went to Sunday school. <<,, Does that count? It was Catholic.
I'm positive that no class ever taught me that detailed of sex ed. I do recall at some point thinking that sex was like an advanced type of making out and sperm kind of jumped from the guy to the girl. My exact thought was, "If they don't want to get pregnant, they should just have sex with their underwear on."
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