In an attempt to help the population of China, drastic measures have been taken. These attepms include things usch as limiting the birth to one or two children only. But is it so bad they need to start killing people off? YOUTH IN ASIA refers to what happened wher an elderly man had help in comiting a type of suicide. Sine this discovery came uot, many people in Asia starte dcomiting aided suicide. But is it right or not?

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I personally think that they should not have youth in asia. Frankliy it seems that you are comiting suicide, and even though it might not be a though over in Asia, that is murder, and if you even attempted it here, jail is where you would be put, possibly for the rest of your life (in a way making the attempted suicide a successful suicide). I don't think it is right ot have people just kill themselves whenevr they feel it fit. Even in cases of extrteme pain, people should live!

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please post
i would love to hear a person agree or disagree with me

(if there is already a post about this, im sorry, but i couldn't find it).

Hahaha. Actually, the term is euthanasia, and it occurs everywhere in the world, not just Asia. ^^;

My own personal opinion on this is somewhat neutral, due to the fact that it does indeed assist in ending suffering and/or pain for those who have an incurable illness or something of the sort. At the same time, however, I think about it sometimes and realize that the people assisting these deaths are no better than murderers. They may have the consent of the patient, but they have no consent from their government, etc.

In cases of extreme pain, I would be willing to be somewhat accepting of euthanasia, though only if this pain was absolutely incurable. Otherwise, I see no need for needing to prematurely end someone's life in such an unnatural way.

That's just my opinion.

Haha, Youth In Asia.

I'm all for euthanasia, I believe a person has the right to end their own life. If they want to end it because of a mental disorder then I do believe that society should try to help them, but if they have a painful disease or are very old, I don't think it's anyones place to tell them they need to keep going. No one else feels their pain but them.

Rivayne, they may be murderers under the definitions of the law, but I think it's very different than an actual murder. Helping someone who has told you that they are sure they no longer want to go on is much different than shooting someone who doesn't want to die.

I was just thinking about this topic last night, and was planning on making a topic about it today. :lol:

Anyway, I can't decide if euthanasia is good or not. I mean, if the family of a patient that is suffering and there is no cure for him/her, then death seems like a reasonable choice to do. Why suffer when you can be free? Therefore, euthanasia is good.

However, some doctors abuse this practice and they kill their patients, making them murderers. Therefore, euthanasia is wrong.

I believe that this act should be used in the most severe cases, like a patient who is enduring a great deal of pain and that there is no cure to what he/she is suffering from.

I think that euthanasia should be an option. It seems to me like it should be up to a person whether they want to live or not. If they want someone else to help so that they don't mess up and end up causing themselves even more pain then that should be their choice.

A lot of people do it for health reasons, like if they have a disease that makes them really miserable. Even if it's a non health reason, it seems like people should have the right to choose it. However, maybe if it's a non health reason there should be a certain amount of time that they have to wait to make sure their judgement wasn't skewed at the time.

I can see where this would cause problems though...maybe someone being threatened so they have to sign documents saying they want to be euthanized. I think a video tape of the person saying that they want to be euthanized should be required. Maybe interviews with different people should be scheduled too just to make sure. Wow, that would be really expensive.

That's a great phonetic spelling, I love it.

But yeah, euthanasia. There's multiple degrees of it, actually:

1. When somebody specifically requests to die. I think if they have a terminal disease which is causing them great pain and discomfort, and they're capable of making a rational choice about it, then it should be permitted. After all, it's legal for healthy people to commit suicide - this is just a case of helping those incapacitated by their illnesses to do the same.

2. When someone is clearly extremely ill or severely injured, with no chance of recovery, but isn't capable of requesting death. This is a bit of a grey area. If they'd made a living will, with specific requests that they shouldn't be kept on a ventilator etc. then their wishes should be honoured. But if they haven't, it's harder to tell, especially when it comes to coma patients.
On balance, I think it should be allowed, if there's enough evidence that the patient really won't recover and that they're suffering from being kept alive. For one thing, it'd be more humane than the current practice - because you can't send off a coma patient with a hefty dose of morphine, since that'd be deliberately killing them, they're left to starve or suffocate to death when the doctors 'pull the plug'. Which is horrible.

3. Euthanasia against a patient's wishes, or without anybody's consent except the doctor's. Like the sort of thing that went on Nazi Germany, when disabled people were killed because they were felt to be a burden on the state.
This is obviously murder. No doubt that it's wrong, there.

For most of us, everyone should come up with a living will, or write down in some way what you really wish done with yourself in case something ever happens. for most of the population here at Mene, this is not something most of you can do till after you turn 18.

But, I believe in Euthanasia and assist suicide. One, what would most of you do if you had an older pet suffering in horrible pain, slowly wasting away? Most of us would take it to the vet and have them put down.

Why is it different for a human? Honestly, if I'm at that point in life, I would.

Also, your title really confused me and the way you spelled Euthanasia.

I also think that we in today's generation should be able to do what we feel is best (within limits and moderation) If we want to have ten kids then let us have ten kids. I don't think that government should be able to dictate to us how we should raise family, or tell us how many kids we are able to have or where we should be able to have them. I think that if we are good and decent people then leave us alone.

"Even in cases of extreme pain"...but if the pain's never going to go away, and the patient would rather die then live through it, what's the point of making them live? You're just making them suffer more.

I agree that euthanasia should be a viable option. I saw my grandmother suffer in the throws of cancer, and I know that an overdose of morphine would have ended things for her in a painless way. What better gift to give someone at the end of their life, than a break from unbearable pain?

To put it another way, when I was a kid, we had a dog. This dog was 17 years old, and had already had to have an eye removed due to forming an ulcer on it. She was beginning to get another ulcer, on the other eye. Rather than have a second surgery and force her to endure pain and blindness, we put her to sleep. No one questioned our judgment, and many would agree with the decision. Should we do any less for our human loved ones?

Euthanasia should be legal but optional. If the person sees fit that their loved one should be let go then so be it.

If somebody wants to end their own life due to personal experiences and situations that are 100% un-overcomable, then by all means let them. Of course if they suffer a mental disorder, and are trying to kill themelves purely off distorted reality, then society must help them.
Killing innocent people off IS wrong and I do not believe it's right just for the sake of the population. Population isn't that much of a problem..and it if WAS so serious, why can't the government look to this and extend chinese housing a few miles into a neighbouring country? Like russia?
I don't believe in borders or seperation between countries. Psft. It's so stupid. We're all human.
Also, limiting only 1 - 2 children per woman is pretty cold. I have friends whos dreams are to give birth to 5-6 children and raise a family of loving siblings. Taking those dreams away from them can be life altering.
Age isn't a reason making it more sensable to kill them. Age is wise, without elderly, how will their history survive?
So..thats..my opinion? :/

Ignoring the confusing first post (First it talks about Asia's population control, then assisted suicide for the elderly?) and taking out of it what I will..

I agree with suicide, and all its forms. If someone has thought it through and is 99% sure they want to commit suicide, by all means let them. Is it more of a "crime" for someone to commit suicide or participate in another's suicide, or to let them suffer through pain (let that be physical or mental) so excruciating that they want to end their life?

It's the persons life, really. Let them do what they want. I've thought, in detail, about my own suicide multiple times. And I'd be damned if anyone other than me told me I couldn't do it. Suicide is, in most cases, the only thing people feel they do have control over in their lives.

Wrapped in a nutshell: It's their life. And chances are you've never experienced suicide-provoking excruciating pain.

I'll assume the thread starter was being humorous.

I actually gave a short presentation on the euthanasia debate in a sociology class.

Personally, I'm in favor of the practice- but like anything it would have to be under very specific guidelines and circumstances that one's request for and assisted suicide should be accepted.

In cases of incurable terminal illness is really the only situation I could say euthanasia could be a respected practice.

I don't believe people who are mentally, emotionally or behaviorally disturbed have the right to request assisted suicide. These are treatable and often temporary conditions that do not require a permanent solution.

This kind of makes me think about a story about a quadrapelgic (basically paralyzed from the neck down) in Spain. He wanted to legally be able to commit suicide but it wasn't as though he hadn't had time to think about it. He was a quadrapelgic for about 28 years.

As long as the person has had proper time to think something like this over... then maybe... Personally, I'm not really supportive of any kind of suicide. I would probably only support this euthanasia if the person is: terminally ill with absolutely no hope for getting better, paralyzed (neck down) for quite some time or in a coma for some time with having written a will specifying so.

it seems that most people would only like euthinasia if their was a person suffereing or terminally ill. (or having a bad life in general) In nature, the harder are picked off, so only the moe advanced survive. But does this mean we shoudl do it?

Just because a person is suffereing, does not mean we should go against god and kill them. Maybe he wanted them to do somethingf befroe they died. We woudl have gone against himm. REBUTALES?

I believe there should be some sort of consent form or something signed that would identify the person as having assisted them or such so that they don't get accused of murder.
I believe it's a horrible thing to make someone else suffer through unnecessary pain. If they have really thought about it, and decided that it's their time, then that is their choice and anyone who truly cares about them shouldn't stand in their way. Sure, you'll miss them when they're gone, but you'll also come to realize that you showed an ultimate act of love for them in allowing them to make their own decision, even if it hurt you a little in the process. (Ooh, and with that, I'm not saying that one person's pain is greater than another.)

Anonymous said, "If you love it, let it go[...]" I think that's an important quote to remember. (Even though I totally can't remember the rest of the wording XD;)

Originally Posted by wizard5424

it seems that most people would only like euthinasia if their was a person suffereing or terminally ill. (or having a bad life in general) In nature, the harder are picked off, so only the moe advanced survive. But does this mean we shoudl do it?

Just because a person is suffereing, does not mean we should go against god and kill them. Maybe he wanted them to do somethingf befroe they died. We woudl have gone against himm. REBUTALES?

Most people are opposed to social Darwinism for perfectly sensible reasons of altruism and compassion for others. Being intelligent, empathetic creatures, most people would feel shocked and guilty at the idea of the weaker members of society being left to die.
But it's different if the person WANTS to die - that's their choice, not society abandoning them.

As for your point about God - if God wanted something from a person, why did he inflict a terminal illness on them in the first place? How do you justify believing in a loving God and forcing people to live in agony?

well as an asian myself, i personally find it stupid to limit children to only two.it is traditional where i come from to have more that three children. having less than that was well, not the thing to do. more kids equal more chances of being supported in your old age, at least that's what i think.

Originally Posted by jozelle

well as an asian myself, i personally find it stupid to limit children to only two.it is traditional where i come from to have more that three children. having less than that was well, not the thing to do. more kids equal more chances of being supported in your old age, at least that's what i think.

yes i thought/ think that, but at the same time, it also makes me wonder if they actually will support you in your elder age, or run awaya and forget that they have any connections to you at all...

XD Youth in Asia. That's great.

Anyway, I think euthanasia should be legal and an option. People should be able to opt out of months, possibly years, of pain and suffering. It keeps stress off of not only the person, but the family/friends as well. If your dog is dying and in pain, you want to see him out of his misery so you take him to the vet to get put down, right? So why can't I do that if my mom is dying? If she were in terrible pain and had no hope of recovery, I'd want to see her out of her misery.

Originally Posted by Lovvy

XD Youth in Asia. That's great.

Anyway, I think euthanasia should be legal and an option. People should be able to opt out of months, possibly years, of pain and suffering. It keeps stress off of not only the person, but the family/friends as well. If your dog is dying and in pain, you want to see him out of his misery so you take him to the vet to get put down, right? So why can't I do that if my mom is dying? If she were in terrible pain and had no hope of recovery, I'd want to see her out of her misery.

yes, i know, i spelled it wrong


any way: yes, it is true that you would want to see people out of their misery, but the ruth is that people, all peopel, have things that animals lack. They have free will. Your animal can not stop yopu from putting him to sleep, your mother however could. Pain, although unbearable at some times, is never constant, with teh great strives today in medicine, it should not be as bad as it can be.

And, faith, if you believe it, cna prevent you from making decisions based on "Seeign her out of her msiery" or the like...

Originally Posted by wizard5424

yes, i know, i spelled it wrong


any way: yes, it is true that you would want to see people out of their misery, but the ruth is that people, all peopel, have things that animals lack. They have free will. Your animal can not stop yopu from putting him to sleep, your mother however could. Pain, although unbearable at some times, is never constant, with teh great strives today in medicine, it should not be as bad as it can be.

And, faith, if you believe it, cna prevent you from making decisions based on "Seeign her out of her msiery" or the like...

Yes, people do differ from animals, but you say it like I wouldn't get my mother's consent first? I would never kill my mother if she didn't believe it was in her best interests as well. Even with the advances in medicine, it some cases it is better to simply let the person rest in peace.

The faith thing is irrelevant to me.

Originally Posted by Lovvy

Yes, people do differ from animals, but you say it like I wouldn't get my mother's consent first? I would never kill my mother if she didn't believe it was in her best interests as well. Even with the advances in medicine, it some cases it is better to simply let the person rest in peace.

The faith thing is irrelevant to me.

Well from teh way you worded it, it sounded as if you would just inject her and not let her know, as you would a dog. But, if you did ave her consent, tha woudl make it worse. How can you tell whne your life is ready to end. HOW cna you tell if you are ready to die.

Faith, irreleveant or not, is always a factor..

I think that people should just be free to who they want to be. There shouldn't be laws as to how many children we can and cannot have, or whether we can be gay or lesbian or black or white. I just think we should be ourselves whoever we are and whereever we are in the world.