I have absolutely no problem with either.

The different religion marriage does seem to pose a bigger problem than simply different races though. I believe that, before anything even gets serious, people should make it very clear what religion they follow. If they still believe that they love each other enough to make it happen, I say more power to them. Why shouldn't they have a chance together? But I still believe that things have to be very clear and decided beforehand so that no one's feelings get hurt and there are no unexpected problems later on in the marriage.

As for children from people who believe in two different things, they should do what my parents did with me. They didn't raise me with any one religion. They explained religions to me and let me make my own decision once I was old enough to understand them.

All people should have a say in who they marry or who they have sexual relationships with.
Children in mixed races don't have that hard a child hood like a lot of people come to conclude.
I can't say personally but I have plenty of friends with Caucasian mothers and African American fathers,Korean Fathers and Indian Mothers,etc.
They don't have any problems socially or mentally.
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Maybe it's not for all,but most I'd say don't have those big of issues.

Onward,if they choose to have children they should know any problems they may face and they should come to terms with those.
There is always going to be problems no matter what races are the parental figures in the family.
Seeing though that racism and nosey people come to play,they may get beaten down.
But discussion should be a virtue in their household.
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if you have seen a picture of me (and i don't think any one here has) i am as white as any pure blood irishwoman can be, except my grandfather on my father's side was black... go figure?

I don't think people should be banned from marrying no matter what their religious beliefs or what their race is.

My cousin is the white avrage american woman, worked as a manager of a bank for a number of years. She fell in love with a wonderfull guy from Pakastan. He's muslin and she's christian. they have now been married for 5 years and have a little girl who is 3.

from personal experiance, i see nothing wrong with "mixed" marrages. marrage is about love, not race, gender, or religion

I think that it is good for kids to be mixed. These days no one cares if you're half and half. They wont say 'Oh, well you're only HALF white, you cant hang out with us.'
Besides, everyone these days is mixed!

I think it's good because they can better understand that every race is the same and completely equal in every way if they have a little of all of them in themselves.

Okay....I think I'm just going to play devil's advocate for today (it's fun)...I don't necessarily agree with this, but I just want to argue the other side of the debate because I don't think anyone else has really...

But keep in mind I do not really agree with this. If two people love each other then they should get married...and that's that.

I think it really all comes down to if they couple wants things to work out! They may be compatible personality wise but if they are from different cultures/religions/countries, then they are definitely going to have to face a lot of pressure from society.

And like I was saying, society is really going to pressure them and this and that. I honestly think that's why a lot of celebrity couples end up splitting because of all the pressure.

I think it would just be difficult on the couple to accept the others beliefs and ways...because I'm catholic, I don't think that I could personally date someone...say Muslim because our views are so different. However, I do have a cousin and she's catholic as well (obviously) and her boyfriend is Muslim and they are talking about getting married, they have been together for 5+ years. But both of them went through a lot of problems, they broke up a few times because of his religion. He's very faithful to his, and she's very faithful to hers. There was a lot of fighting about what kind of wedding it would be etc...on top of that, his parents and her parents are also VERY into their religion, so they are kind of 'frowning' upon their relationship.

I found this quote on a discussion board about religion...it's interesting, so I thought I would post it.

Well the general ruling on Inter-religious marriage in Islam is very lucid. If a man wants to marry a woman of a different religion, it is acceptable, provided the woman belongs to Christianity or Judaism (people of the book. However a woman is not permitted to marry a man of any religion BUT ISLAM. That is mainly because the offspring bears the name of the father and hence it has to be Muslim.

I just thought it was interesting, so in some places it is against their religion to marry those of a different religion.

Then there may be controversy with the parents about raising children. Will they raise them to be religious, and if so who's religion?

blah...I have so much more to say about this, because it's such a cool and interesting topic, but I guess I just wanted to argue the other side of the debate...I like doing that, I'm such a nerd. lol

And please, don't flame me for this or anything, I thought it would give us some more to talk about...I am personally for the idea of people from two different religions marrying.

Sometimes these things make a relationship hard to deal with for sure. My current boyfriend is religious (he doesn’t go to church every week but his faith effects his daily choices I could say) and I was raised in a very relaxed-religious home mostly because my parents couldn’t agree when I was born. This doesn’t cause any problems at this time but I could see it maybe making things to work around later on, thou I’m more agnostic then atheist-and would very willingly be more religious if it ended up being a deal breaker in a serious relationship down the road. (Like in order to get married)
I was not a planned child and this caused a LOT of problems when I was born. The Catholic Church (that my mother belongs too) wouldn’t baptize me since I was born out of wedlock. My dad belongs to some wacky Christian group (not trying to be negative to Christians but it’s a WEIRD ass off-working of religion man….) and he is VERY much against the Catholic church because of the big child-touching thing and that has stopped me and all of my siblings from getting baptized (they were married when both younger siblings were born) and left me rather religiousless.
I could defenently see conflict, especially if the couple like to talk about religion/have debates that get feelings mixed in (its hard not too)
The race thing can be hard for the child and parents depending on what culture you live in for sure. Even material status can effect a relationship. I found myself having a REALLY hard time dating my ex who was very wealthy and always had been (I have been relatively poor my whole life) and knew it would never work out long term because of these disagreements.
I suppose with enough love and effort any relationship can work out but it’s a lot easier when you start out with matching views/upbringings etc.

now this confuses me. I cn see that some peopel may they live in te hpast or not, may not see races intermarrying, but i don't believe hjow someone could see it as being wrong. Ever since people were free, i think it should be consiudered free t do much of anything. MArrying inbetween religions however, is different. The problem is that they could fued over which one to follow. And, if they need, they would divorce each other, and they woudl end up repeating the process. So, to summarize my statement, marrying between races is the most sensible thing there is, marrying betwee religions not so ssensible. And by teh Way, not to ooff topic, i would agree that tin time th ehuman population would end up with teh same skin color and similar attrributs and featurs, who knows, that may lead to a eutopia...

Originally Posted by Majinkoz

Okay....I think I'm just going to play devil's advocate for today (it's fun)...I don't necessarily agree with this, but I just want to argue the other side of the debate because I don't think anyone else has really...

But keep in mind I do not really agree with this. If two people love each other then they should get married...and that's that.

I think it really all comes down to if they couple wants things to work out! They may be compatible personality wise but if they are from different cultures/religions/countries, then they are definitely going to have to face a lot of pressure from society.

And like I was saying, society is really going to pressure them and this and that. I honestly think that's why a lot of celebrity couples end up splitting because of all the pressure.

I think it would just be difficult on the couple to accept the others beliefs and ways...because I'm catholic, I don't think that I could personally date someone...say Muslim because our views are so different. However, I do have a cousin and she's catholic as well (obviously) and her boyfriend is Muslim and they are talking about getting married, they have been together for 5+ years. But both of them went through a lot of problems, they broke up a few times because of his religion. He's very faithful to his, and she's very faithful to hers. There was a lot of fighting about what kind of wedding it would be etc...on top of that, his parents and her parents are also VERY into their religion, so they are kind of 'frowning' upon their relationship.

I found this quote on a discussion board about religion...it's interesting, so I thought I would post it.

I just thought it was interesting, so in some places it is against their religion to marry those of a different religion.

Then there may be controversy with the parents about raising children. Will they raise them to be religious, and if so who's religion?

blah...I have so much more to say about this, because it's such a cool and interesting topic, but I guess I just wanted to argue the other side of the debate...I like doing that, I'm such a nerd. lol

And please, don't flame me for this or anything, I thought it would give us some more to talk about...I am personally for the idea of people from two different religions marrying.

I think you bring up some good points with this. Now, as I stated before in my other post in this thread, I see nothing wrong with people of different races or religions marrying. However, I will say, there are certain races or religions that, if a person was a part of, I probably would not want to get in a relationship with them. I'm not prejudice or anything, but as stated here, some of them are just far too different. I would never marry a Muslim man, because their religion and culture is just so completely different it would not work for me. My biggest issue is how they treat women. Like you stated here, they allow men to marry outside their religion but do not allow women. Women are treated horribly unequal in their religion for the most part, I just don't like how, even in the US, many Muslim women are seen walking around with their whole bodies hidden, or at least their hair covered up, so no one can tell just what they look like. There are a lot of things that men are allowed to do that they do not allow women to do, and it upsets me to see this type of thing going on. To me it is completely backward and rather abusive if a man makes his wife follow such strict and ridiculous rules. I believe that a healthy relationship requires equality and respect towards each other. One person should not be more in control or set rules for the other. But I suppose this stuff is another issue for another type of debate. Basically, while I'm all for people of different races and religions marrying, I can see how it would be difficult for certain ones to work. I think as long as people know what they are getting into, and are okay with it, and both are willing to compromise if someone has an issue with the other's customs and things like that, then it can work.

But I'm come from two different races and I haven't had that much difficult in growing up where I live, everything has been normal since almost whole Puerto Rico is of mixed races as well of mixed religion so what's bad if someone marries another person from a different religion? o.O;

Yes, I think anybody that is in love should marry. Anyone who is alike and has a companionship towards one another should marry. I don't people should look down on whites and blacks marrying because there's nothing wrong with it. Personally I think there are many nice black people out there compared to whites. Some whites can be mean. It's the people's choice of who they'd like to love and marry and viceversa.

I think it is perfectly fine with mixed marriages and families, both with religion and race. This is for the specific reason that if you are truly ready to be married to a person, you should be able to talk about these ideas far before you actually tie the knot. Religion is always a big deal, but it should be talked about way before marriage, especially if you plan on having children. If the two people cant compromise and agree on what to do for the rest of their lives together, then they shouldn't be married and they most certainly shouldn't bring a child into this world together.

As for race. I am in an interracial relationship and in the modern era there are very few problems to be faced. Especially with the younger generations. If a child knows that they are loved and that their parents love them, then they are able to face anything society says.

Originally Posted by Keita

I think it is perfectly fine with mixed marriages and families, both with religion and race. This is for the specific reason that if you are truly ready to be married to a person, you should be able to talk about these ideas far before you actually tie the knot. Religion is always a big deal, but it should be talked about way before marriage, especially if you plan on having children. If the two people cant compromise and agree on what to do for the rest of their lives together, then they shouldn't be married and they most certainly shouldn't bring a child into this world together.

As for race. I am in an interracial relationship and in the modern era there are very few problems to be faced. Especially with the younger generations. If a child knows that they are loved and that their parents love them, then they are able to face anything society says.

I agree 100%. You have to indeed be ready for marriage...

religion side::. eh, it may come as an issue with the parents, but id feel bad for the kids though. both their parents have differents religions so theyll be presseured into which side theyll take. its just a bit pressuring for the pooe kid :[
race side::. i dont see much of an issue with it, as long as the couple is happy and arent getting offensive about the whole race difference then itll be fine :]

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  Absolutely, 100% yes, they both should be allowed.
  
  As to whether or not the relationship would work, that's another story. It all depends on the person.
  
  I think that the parents would be an issue, though. For instance, my mother is a devout Christian. She winces if I even look at a boy who's non-Christian. According to her, I shouldn't even date a 'baby Christian' (new Christian). She believes that I should be dating someone who is spiritually at the same level as I am. 'You have to be equally yoked.'
  
  Personally, I think it's a bunch of bullshit. I don't know if that's because I'm at the 'rebellious' age, or if I'm losing my beliefs. I grew up a Christian, and have had religion shoved down my throat since day one.
  
  
  Also, according to my mother, if you are a follower of Christianity, you shouldn't even think about being in any sort of close relationship (even friendship) with non-believers, otherwise you aren't following the bible, and therefore are sinning in the eyes of God.
  
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  I work at an elementary / middle / high school, and just from observing their behavior, I don't think that mixed race children get picked on any more than overweight kids, or handicapped kids. But maybe that's just because I live in California, where 'that sort of thing' is more commonly accepted in society, as oppossed to the south, or...somewhere else (I don't know where else...)
  
  I wouldn't go about saying that and specific race is 'ugly' or 'pretty.' Saying that mixed race children are all pretty is just as bad as saying they are all ugly.
  
  
  

I feel that if someone would like to spend their life with someone of a different race or religion, they should be able to; However, I do think that things can clash. Different ethnic groups have different sets of holidays, traditions, routines, and other elements that make up their culture. Just like different religions have a completely different set of values and beliefs. A child produced of those relationships could potentially be caught in a difficult situation when having to select what to live by between the two parents' different views. Though, I do think it is possible to make it all work.

I don't even know why this would be a reasonable concern on the Debates Forums.
Maybe 500 years ago people would be concious of marrying other religions, but this is the year 2007 (Well..almost 2008) Why would people even THINK religion could hold them back from love?
All my boyfriends have been another religion. Some of them Catholic (Where as I am half Jewish half Christian) Some of them..other stuff..o_o.
Most of my boyfriends have been Chinese. I'm not chinese, does that matter? We love eachother. <3
PLUS, Look at me! My dad is Russian and my Mother was Japanese! And they're still together!
Personally- I think religion is a bunch of BS. I don't go to Church nor Sinegauge (I don't know how to spell it..) nor do I "pray" or have I ever even touched a Bible. :3
Humans are humans, and no 'words' that we can hardly scientifically prove true should stop us from marrying or loving!

Also - you said kids of mixed races have a harder time in life? WTF. You should get your facts straight or at least meet more multi-cultured kids, because we do NOT have a hard time, we have the same amount of problems as a one-race child, it really doesn't change anything, nor do we give a damn.

Clucktastic said that because of different routines and traditions clashes can begin. NO. Those who can't handle a good relationship because of that, isn't because of the traditions themselves, but that they aren't strong enough to overcome that. Why can't they just share routines and traditions within the same household? They can. But they aren't strong willed or strong minded enough to do so. My parents have. I celebrate Christmas and Channukah, I know Russian and Japanese, I know both of the routines that russians and japaneses' are "supposed" to do, but geuss what? I don't do them! And it's not like my parents care, that they'd say, "No no no! You have to be like a russian! Eat souvlaki and be strong!" or "No! You must eat sushi and get A's and grow up to be a buisness woman!" 0_o"
- Woah Am I getting Off-Topic or what? :shock:
Okay Okay I got too into my little rant.
I'll stop now, It's all cool.. :/
HAHA [/ENDRANT]
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So what do you think about this?

Personally I only want pagans, agnostics or atheists. No offense to other, but you are truly not my cup of tea and before anyone says "oh you haven't even dated one!" it is true that I have not, but I feel good examples of why I really do not abound. I am trying to not be a religious bigot, but some of the people I met scare me.

As for interraicial dating and stuff, there is a whole lot of baggage that comes from that... affiliations, looks, culture, history and even the images of today keep me from ever pursuing the kinds of men and woman I am attracted to, so I do not.

Certainly there are issues that come up when you're in a relationship with someone from another race or religion. But I don't think there's anything wrong with marrying someone from another race. If your families have issues you can talk about it and work it out (an interracial couple that I'm friends with just got married in November, and they waited for 3 years until both their families were ok with it).

With religion, though, I think it's different. Your fundamental beliefs are different. When time comes to make an important decision, who's beliefs or values are you going to base it on? What will you teach your children? I just think there are far more issues that come up with that.

I think that mix race and religion is ok no matter if the religion is total opposite if they want to marry and have kids let them.

If people are allowed to differ, and they are allowed to marry, then they should be allowed to marry with differences.
That's my stance. If two people love each other so much to think that they'll love each other forever, they should get married.
Now, a religious difference may impose some difficulties on a relationship (as for race... I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal, because it's not a choice; it doesn't say much about you but your appearance.), but if said two people love each other enough, it shouldn't matter.

If they love each other and want to then yes.

Of course it's fine. As long as a couple loves each other dearly, I see no opposition against them. People are people...as long as nobody takes advantage of the other, I see no oppostion to that at all. In fact...I think that inter-racial marriage is a wonderful thing.

I wish I was born of an inter-racial birth. You see, most of my friends at my school are Vietnamese, and so I'm the lone Chinese person...kinda lonely me. I wish that I was born inter-racial, then I could you know, 'communicate'. To certain people...it's different.

Of course the offspring could come out looking funny-ish. But that's what makes us all different, doesn't it? If everybody looked the same, we would be eggs sitting in a box at the grocery store. Not very fun.

I've seen exotic peoples all my life. They're pretty beautiful, and I envy them. Ive seen Irish-Chinese, German-Italian,...And I don't think it's strange at all. They themselves feel pretty good about themselves.

Heck, while everybody else is a fly, they are fireflies.

While everybody else is a worm, they are gloworms

Many of them I know don't let their inter-racial birth bother them, in fact, they're proud. Thus proving that I don't think it matters at all whether a person marries another of a different race. Marriage isn't about exotic bonding.

Isn't marriage about love in general...?

I think you're right about some parts of the post, but not the whole "All mixed race children are pretty!" part. That's not true. Being half black and half white doesn't automatically give you your parents most appealing features. Like my dad. He's black/white and though he's not ugly, it's not like he could ever be considered handsome. My sister and I are probably about average.

And to silent.assassin: Being mixed-race may sometimes make you able to "communicate" with both sides of your family, but sometimes it means that both sides hate you because you don't fully fit in anywhere.

As for mixed religion couples, I see no reason why it shouldn't work as long as the two work out beforehand what religion they want their children to be raised as.

No, no. My point was, to me they are beautiful. Of course, they may look a bit strange and exotic, but they still are people, and that doesn't keep them from being who they are, you know? They're just nice people trying to be nice.

I don't think it's kinda weird, but you know. Homosexuals are considered strange in society, so you have a point that they may be grouped as so too.

I AM NOT CALLING THEM HOMO, I AM USING THE homosexual as a mere EXAMPLE. Thanks.

There are some places where marrying someone who is not the same race can cause problems, but people have every right to marry who they want to. Besides in the places where it's dangerous to associate outside of your "race" (I prefer to think of humans as one big race with "sub" categories) people don't develop relationships with anyone outside the group society has defined for them. If two people in a situation like that do fall in love, then they should go for it! But they might want to move to a more accepting area.