Originally Posted by Tre Le Coco

No, unlike you and others who do, i have a brain ^^

doing drugs is the most idiotic thing in the world

Just because some of us do a drug doesn't mean we're stupid, Tre. If I were stupid, I'd be going around getting straight F's in school, I'd 'b typen liek dis,' and quite honestly, I'd be in a mental institution by now, considering all the crap that flies through my head on a daily basis. I'm not saying it's good for you. I'm saying it's fun. And not all druggies are alike, and many people that did drugs became successful. However, a majority of them did not, which is why if you choose to indulge in any drug. So if you do end up reading this post, your judgment is probably going to phase out anything I said, and you're going to reinforce what you think. But not all of us are morons.

Clockwork: Pot doesn't lead to other drugs. If people don't have their lives well enough together, THEN pot leads to other drugs. And the people that BRAG about it are stupid. I only tell my high stories when I'm around other people that smoke pot or when one of my friends asks me to. Otherwise, I don't go announcing to the world, "HAY DOODZ IM A PAWTHED RN'T I DA KULIST TNG SINS SLYSED BRED?!" No. I smoke pot because it's an enjoyable experience for me. Not because I think it's 'cool.'

Hahah saying something is idiotic without experiencing it personally, is really ignorant. I smoke pot and there's nothing wrong with my life. My grades are good, my relationships with people are perfect, and every thing's good.

Too much of anything is bad for you so of course smoking a lot of pot is going to have a negative effect. You can't die from overdose but it has been proven pot does cause killing of braincells, but that's only if you smoke constantly for a long period of time.

I have a friend who smokes pot almost daily and he got into tufts university. Some potheads are the best people in the world. Pot is the est alternative to smoking or drinking and it's a lot safer.

Educate yourself before you give an opinion not only on pot but on anything.

I'd just like to chime in that I've tried it before and decided it wasn't something I should be doing. If I had continued, I would have gone to a crappy school, kept crappy friends and right now would probably have a joint in one hand, a beer in the other and in the lap of some guy I just met.

Originally Posted by ewic santiago

Hahah saying something is idiotic without experiencing it personally, is really ignorant. I smoke pot and there's nothing wrong with my life. My grades are good, my relationships with people are perfect, and every thing's good.

Too much of anything is bad for you so of course smoking a lot of pot is going to have a negative effect. You can't die from overdose but it has been proven pot does cause killing of braincells, but that's only if you smoke constantly for a long period of time.

I have a friend who smokes pot almost daily and he got into tufts university. Some potheads are the best people in the world. Pot is the est alternative to smoking or drinking and it's a lot safer.

Educate yourself before you give an opinion not only on pot but on anything.

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I most definitely do! As a matter of fact, I got a new pipe for Christmas. Lmao. Anyways, I don't really see any harm to it. The only bad thing that's ever happened to me while I was high was it took longer for me to get rid of my cold. Honestly, pot can't really kill you and its probably the safest intoxicant you can find so... why not?

Originally Posted by Pkero

Just because some of us do a drug doesn't mean we're stupid, Tre. If I were stupid, I'd be going around getting straight F's in school, I'd 'b typen liek dis,' and quite honestly, I'd be in a mental institution by now, considering all the crap that flies through my head on a daily basis.

While that wasn't directed at me, I feel the need to comment...
Who is to say that someone getting straight F's indicates a person is stupid. There are different kinds of intelligence in the world and not all of them are strictly academic related. Nor does stupidity automatically condemn people to mental institutions.

Originally Posted by Pkero

I'm not saying it's good for you. I'm saying it's fun.

It's fun... If people think cutting is fun, does that make it ok? Drinking? Smoking?

Originally Posted by Pkero

And not all druggies are alike, and many people that did drugs became successful. However, a majority of them did not, which is why if you choose to indulge in any drug.

Could you please name a few? (should you come back and see this)

Originally Posted by Pkero

Clockwork: Pot doesn't lead to other drugs. If people don't have their lives well enough together, THEN pot leads to other drugs.

Well, the way I see it, people who start pot already don't have their lives together. I feel as though pot is merely a starting ground for other drugs. Opens the world to stronger things to have "more fun."


Edit: I'm not supporting the manner in which Tre Le Coco expressed her thoughts.

Originally Posted by Lord Orpheus

Could you please name a few? (should you come back and see this)

Well, the way I see it, people who start pot already don't have their lives together. I feel as though pot is merely a starting ground for other drugs. Opens the world to stronger things to have "more fun."

Bob Marley, extremely successful, was one of the most influential people in the world. His lyrics are still inspirational to many people today.

Though this isn't the case with me, pot can put you in the environment of other drugs but it's still the person's choice. No one forces you to do anything, though there is peer pressure and many people don't do good under pressure it's still the person's choice.

Originally Posted by Pkero

Clockwork: Pot doesn't lead to other drugs. If people don't have their lives well enough together, THEN pot leads to other drugs. And the people that BRAG about it are stupid. I only tell my high stories when I'm around other people that smoke pot or when one of my friends asks me to. Otherwise, I don't go announcing to the world, "HAY DOODZ IM A PAWTHED RN'T I DA KULIST TNG SINS SLYSED BRED?!" No. I smoke pot because it's an enjoyable experience for me. Not because I think it's 'cool.'

I didn't say everyone brags about it, dear. I said that
the people who do bother me, if you even read my post.

I think it does lead to other drugs. That's obviously what happened with her.

I'm glad you don't do it because you think it's cool.
But that doesn't mean I like it.

In my opinion pot is not a "gateway drug" alcohol on the other hand could easily be named as one. every one of my friends who is into "hard" drugs started out with booze not pot . . .

Originally Posted by Lord Orpheus

While that wasn't directed at me, I feel the need to comment...
Who is to say that someone getting straight F's indicates a person is stupid. There are different kinds of intelligence in the world and not all of them are strictly academic related. Nor does stupidity automatically condemn people to mental institutions.

It's fun... If people think cutting is fun, does that make it ok? Drinking? Smoking?

Could you please name a few? (should you come back and see this)

Well, the way I see it, people who start pot already don't have their lives together. I feel as though pot is merely a starting ground for other drugs. Opens the world to stronger things to have "more fun."


Edit: I'm not supporting the manner in which Tre Le Coco expressed her thoughts.

Based on my OWN experiences in life, I'd be in a mental institution. That's what I said. As for the people who've been successful, numerous people that have posted in this thread. And let's not forget some musical artists, such as Sublime, Pink Floyd and the Beatles.

And now, I'm not saying that just because it's fun, it's good. Sure there are better ways to have fun, but there are worse ways, too.

And I smoke pot because it gives me a philosophical sense of life. It just makes me understand things. In kind of a screwed up sense. I know the things I tell myself when I'm high are pretty much crap, but when you're there, you see EVERYTHING.

Clockwork: I read your post. And I agree, I hate the people that brag about it. And just because it happened with her doesn't mean it happened to everyone. I'm only willing to smoke pot because you can't overdose on it, and I'd rather not die because I shot up too much heroin or snorted that extra line of coke.

And you don't have to like it. Some people like it, some don't. That's the way it is with everything.

And as far as F's go, meh. I think straight F's indicates some signs of failure. I'm actually quite an interesting person to talk to, but my grades don't reflect my intelligence. I'm a C student.

Originally Posted by Pkero

Just because some of us do a drug doesn't mean we're stupid, Tre. If I were stupid, I'd be going around getting straight F's in school, I'd 'b typen liek dis,' and quite honestly, I'd be in a mental institution by now, considering all the crap that flies through my head on a daily basis. I'm not saying it's good for you. I'm saying it's fun. And not all druggies are alike, and many people that did drugs became successful. However, a majority of them did not, which is why if you choose to indulge in any drug. So if you do end up reading this post, your judgment is probably going to phase out anything I said, and you're going to reinforce what you think. But not all of us are morons.

Sorry but doing drugs is stupid, i don't care if its the funnest thing next to a trip to Disney Land, its illegal and it damages your body, so yes it is stupid because you might not have effects from it now but 40 years down the track you will.

Like smoking, you might not have the cancer from it when you start, but if you continue you will get it eventually.

Just because i haven't done it doesn't mean im being ignorant, im allowed to call it stupid if i wish because all im doing is telling the truth. Its a good thing i haven't done any of these things, its a GREAT thing, i like to take care of my body and not cause problems to it doing something illegal

just because you don't think it has effected you, doesn't mean it hasn't effected the other people who do it. MANY people's lives have been destroyed due to drugs and other substances, its always in the news papers and sometimes on television

So yeah, rant to me all you want, you won't change my mind - you'll wake up one day and realize what your doing, it may be tomorrow or 10 years from now, but it will happen

Drugs WILL hurt you.
say your ..
16?
once your about 30+
youll start remembering allllll those things you did when you were younger.
if some one was hurt by you doing drugs and you didnt care.
You dont have a fucking Heart. and sorry for cussing. but Gosh.
and who the hell thinks doing drugs is fun? showing off is what your doing. Which is. duh. STUPID. ANNOYING. POINTLESS. its not cool. its not fun.

I'd just like to chip in that marijuana is more dangerous than tobacco smoke.

It contains 20 times more ammonia and five times more of hydrogen cyanide (which can cause heart disease) and of nitrogen oxides (which can cause lung damage)than tobacco smoke.

Doesn't sound like such an innocent drug now, does it?

Originally Posted by Tre Le Coco

Sorry but doing drugs is stupid, i don't care if its the funnest thing next to a trip to Disney Land, its illegal and it damages your body, so yes it is stupid because you might not have effects from it now but 40 years down the track you will.

Like smoking, you might not have the cancer from it when you start, but if you continue you will get it eventually.

Just because i haven't done it doesn't mean im being ignorant, im allowed to call it stupid if i wish because all im doing is telling the truth. Its a good thing i haven't done any of these things, its a GREAT thing, i like to take care of my body and not cause problems to it doing something illegal

just because you don't think it has effected you, doesn't mean it hasn't effected the other people who do it. MANY people's lives have been destroyed due to drugs and other substances, its always in the news papers and sometimes on television

So yeah, rant to me all you want, you won't change my mind - you'll wake up one day and realize what your doing, it may be tomorrow or 10 years from now, but it will happen

I don't care when it happens. I've got one life, and I'm going to enjoy it. And so yes. Some peoples' lives have been destroyed, and I myself never called you ignorant. Your original post, in all honesty, pissed me off because I saw how short and unthoughtful your post was. All you said there was basically, "Drugs are stupid, shut up." So I'm glad you have your own view on drugs, and I don't expect to be able to change them. I've tried to change peoples' views on drugs and failed. Especially after this thread. I'm going to keep talking about and doing drugs to myself and amongst my friends.

But thank you for having an educated response. And when I do wake up that day and realize I've been throwing my life away, you'll be the first one I'll tell about it. And that's not sarcasm. I'm serious.

Cloth: Got a source to cite that?

Lsaylor: Opinions. So since I smoke pot, I'm suddenly heartless and don't care about anyone? I have a family and I love them dearly. There are a lot of problems in my extended family, and I just grin and bear it for their sakes. But that's what love is. Even if it gets hard sometimes, still being there for your family and friends. But then again, I can't begin to comprehend what love is, because I'm a recreational user of marijuana.

That about the size of it?

I don't smoke pot and I doubt I ever will. I hope it won't happen.
It's illegal, so going with something like that isn't worth. And it's not healthy... I think that's stupid but it doesn't mean that those who smoke it are stupid. You smoke? (Abstract of the thing why do you smoke). Your decision, I won't judge you after that. I just don't think that it's good for anyone.

And I agree that there were (and are probably) great people who smoke pot, but there are also a lot of people, who started getting other drugs and now... well, they aren't anybody at all.
You don't know how you will end up.

@ Cloth Roses: Well, I don't know what is in marijuana, but tobacco smoke has a lot of bad substances. Not only ammonia and hydrogen cyanide. 40 of 4000 substances are carcinogenic, and a lot of them are using to make plastic etc.
The biggest difference is that some things with tobacco (cigarettes) are legal. It's not good though.

Yes, yes I do.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7150274.stm

This article was posted the 19 of December this year.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marih...dex_rev_e.html

This study may be of particular interest to you, sections 1, 2,7 and 8.

Now, this article is also about medicinal uses, and while I don't doubt that it may help in some cases, it's still dangerous.

lacys not even ganna stay and fight.
its pointless.
you wanna mess your life up badly?
Kay.
i don't care. x]

Originally Posted by Cloth Roses

Yes, yes I do.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7150274.stm

This article was posted the 19 of December this year.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marih...dex_rev_e.html

This study may be of particular interest to you, sections 1, 2,7 and 8.

Now, this article is also about medicinal uses, and while I don't doubt that it may help in some cases, it's still dangerous.

Well, then I'm glad you're not making things up, and you actually have a credible source.

I do not smoke pot. I do not do drugs in general. It can screw up your life.

i dont...my family is again it so badly..

Originally Posted by Pkero

Well, then I'm glad you're not making things up, and you actually have a credible source.

If I plan to debate a point, I'm going to use a credible source, I never make things up.

• This thread has been such an interesting read. People get worked up so easily.
  
  I've never tried any drugs apart from Coca Cola, which I'm pretty addicted to, and very occasional small amounts of alcohol. I'm not sure I want to try any more drugs yet, but I might smoke pot later on in life, when I'm old enough for it not to matter, haha.
  I went to Christiania in Copenhagen a couple of years ago (marijuana paradise, I've heard) and I really liked the smell there. Yum. My mum and the other girls we were with didn't like it at all though, it just made them sick. I loved it. We all got a little giggly though.
  
  I don't have any experience of drugs or people on them so I'm not going to state anything. I do think though that judging all smokers from any one or two smokers you might know or from the smokers you hear about in the media is pretty stupid. It all depends on the person how they end up, you can't blame it all on the drug. A lot of cults use drugs to get in touch with a higher plane of existance, and I believe it can be quite an experience.

Originally Posted by Cloth Roses

Yes, yes I do.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7150274.stm

This article was posted the 19 of December this year.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marih...dex_rev_e.html

This study may be of particular interest to you, sections 1, 2,7 and 8.

Now, this article is also about medicinal uses, and while I don't doubt that it may help in some cases, it's still dangerous.

I have never heard of anyone getting heart disease, cancer, lung disease, or anything of the sort. I'm not so certain I can believe that. I kinda think they're just saying that just to give drugs the negative aspect so that people don't do it. But that's just my opinion.

I smoked it when I was a teen but, wised up and quit. Do people really believe you can OD on it? The only way that's happening is if it's laced with something people. It still isn't a smart thing to do, it kills ambition and makes you eat too much.

You can get lung and heart disease, it's the same as cigarettes, you're drawing it into you lungs which does damage them.

@ ewic: If it was some regular Joe or Joanne off the street saying this, I might be prone to believing you.

However, this is an extensive medical study by the Canadian Government saying the marijuana is harmful.

Unless you don't believe in Canada.