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05-09-2008, 06:50 PM
There has been alot about internet suicide cults in the news recently. IT started with the Bebo suicide pact which was amoungst a group of friends for a start who all lived in the same area.I was reading the news paper a few days ago and a thirteen year old "emo" girl hanged herself so she could join "The Black Parade". She was also on Bebo.
This is very worrying that twenty-one people have taken their own lives all of whom used the same site. It's being called a cult because of the ammount of the twenty people who commit suicide lived in the same kind of area and all of those who have commit suicide where on the same site and did it the same way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1935735/Popular-schoolgirl-dies-in-'emo-sucide-cult'.html This is the link for the story.
I really do feel sorry for the parents of this girl and of the others who commit suicide.
What do you think of this story and of the other one, which I can't find a link for.
Do you think that online social networks should keep a better eye on what is going on, on their site and stop things like this before they go too far.
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05-09-2008, 07:08 PM
I remember seeing about that yesterday, I think. That is a sad tale and a horrible thing for her parents to go threw. I do think that network sites do need to keep a better eye on there members and if anything like a cult or something suspicious begins to happen, at the very least investigate.
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05-09-2008, 08:15 PM
That's tragic. It's a shame that she didn't understand how very real and unglamorous death is.
That's just... it's tragic. There isn't any other word for it.
Though what I don't like is how that article makes the entire emo movement seem like some dark, horrible cult. I mean, c'mon, not all emo kids are like that. Some talk a bit like that, but they're not all serious. Some just dress that way but have a "normal" outlook on life.
The kids like that that are emos probably aren't that way BECAUSE of the emo movement. They'd be troubled whether emo was here or not. The only difference is that this way they find people who are like them more easily.
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05-09-2008, 08:25 PM
There was another site with an artical on it but I didn't want to post that one because some of the comments on that were very disrespectful to the family. So I didn't want to post that one. Some of the other articals we're written slightly differently, depending on which newspaper they were in.
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05-09-2008, 08:39 PM
Yes, there are sites online that would convince people to kill themselves. It's just plain evil. But to actually fall for it so you carry it out and you're at the age where you should know better? That is sad on so many levels.
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05-09-2008, 11:05 PM
Baah!
Cults on the internet are getting a lot more out there. Especially with their advertisements, I can barely let my little sister on the online without having to block things when she's on her Sanrio site and all the other sites 6 year olds like.
That's terrible, though. The internet is taking a big affect on lives everywhere, especially with trends/fads like that.
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05-27-2008, 06:35 AM
this is the first i've heard of this and while i feel sorry for the adolescent i also feel .. hell i don't know what i feel but i do know that i find people who join these so-called 'cults' to be incredibly stupid.
as for emo people and things.. i don't get it. either you're depressed or you aren't. if you aren't depressed don't act as if you are that's just retarded. I have hereditary depression that I take medication for and find people who pretend to be 'dark', 'moody' and so-called 'depressed' to be offensive. Let them live with real depression one day and see how they enjoy 'pretending' then.
^ now i could totally have the wrong idea of what emo is but that's how i see them. kids/people who think it's 'sooo cool man' to act down and out and hard up on luck.
why are some people so stupid.. no offense by why on earth would anyone want company in their suicide trip? I know if I killed myself I'd prefer to be alone in silence.. maybe that's just me?
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05-27-2008, 11:08 AM
I cannot possibly sympathize with someone who kills themselves because it's fashionable. If you want to dye your hair black and pretend to cut your wrists, I don't care. Once you take it so far as to actually kill yourself... that's pathetic. Guess what? Your public approval rating might shoot through the roof, but you'll never see it due to you being DEAD and all.
A bipolar person killing themselves in the throes of manic-depression is tragic. An emo kid killing themselves to look awesome is the epitome of pathetic.
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05-27-2008, 11:35 AM
Oh my god, that girl lived in the town right next to mine...
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05-27-2008, 11:58 AM
The most worrying thing is that more people are commiting suicide just so they can get a tribute page made for them on MySpace, Bebo or other such sites. But by having tribute pages like that seem to encourage more people to do it, when once your dead you aren't going to be here.
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05-27-2008, 04:27 PM
the poor parents, I mean they had no real reason to suspect the girl of trying to kill herself...
what a spoiled brat. seriously thats upsetting.
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05-27-2008, 04:49 PM
I don't think the site should have to babysit its members. With younger members I think the parents should be more involved with their children's lives and not just push the warning signs away and act like they don't exist. Parents also need to pay more attention to what their kids are actually doing online. there's too many bad things out there to just assume that your kid will be safe, especially on networking websites like MySpace.
I do feel bad for the parents and the kids that kill themselves, but it's something that in most cases shows problem signs before anything even happens. It's not just something that happens over night and people just don't randomly decide to kill themselves. I don't know about other people, but if I noticed my kid was cutting her wrist, I'd be doing more than just letting it go. I mean, to me that seems like a pretty big red flag.
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05-27-2008, 05:02 PM
kiwi I agree that parents need to watch out and the site shouldn't be responsible.
I get so mad when people blame myspace for their kid posting nude pics or Yahoo for their kids going into adult chat rooms....or violent games making their kids crazy. Obviously M games are M for a reason......
Seriously take some responsibility
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05-27-2008, 05:08 PM
I hate parents who blame their kid's own faults on things like Youtube and Myspace too Naiyo. Its never their own screwed up kid, nooooo, its the internet. >_>
Reminds me of this kid who killed his friend and stole his credit card to buy stuff on World of Warcraft. Now thats f'd up...
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05-27-2008, 05:10 PM
heh.. This gives emo an even worse name than it already has.. I mean.. I read a blog once, in which someone explained what emo really was(emo does not stand for emotional, I cant remember what it does stand for though). I was starting to think that emo isnt the stereotype kind of thing everyone thinks it is, but I guess it is afteral.
I find the story rather strange. I remember when I was 13, everyone thought my life was good, I did too. Then BAM! Depression. And yes, I wanted to kill myself. She might be the bright girl on the outside, but for someone to commit suicide, it needs more than just some story of a sinister emo community if you ask me.
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05-27-2008, 05:14 PM
I remember reading somewhere it was about the music and the lyrics, not the style or the steotype....
My best friend likes some of the "emo" bands that didn't used to be considered "emo" or became popular for emo kids to wear their stuff forever... he hates it cause he went to a Taking Back Sunday concert and everyone made fun of him cause of all the 13 yearold teeny bopper emos at it.....ya.....didn't turn out well for him.
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05-27-2008, 05:37 PM
No one can enjoy anything anymore without having someone say something bad about them. Sure, who cares what they're saying but thats not the point. -__-
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05-27-2008, 06:26 PM
There was a point where it was all Marilyn Manson supposedly causing all these teens to commit suicide, it's now moved onto "the black parade". Since "emo" became a popular fashion and some of the points of the stereotype have become more more blown up and alot scarier. I know a couple of so called "emos" and their parent's kept a close eye on them when they first heard the stereotype.
There have been a few warnings to parents about these kind of things but these things happening is going to drive it home to parents.
There has been news coverage of people in their twenties and older commiting suicide becasue they've been online for help and ended up with people encouraging them to go through with it rather than helping them.
Seeing as this latest one was alot younger than the others has encouraged sites to keep an eye on activity that could be encouraging suicide as well as keeping an eye on surspicious activity by possible online preditors.
It has also had an effect on parents of "emos" who are now keeping an eye on or in the case of the people I know more of an eye on what they are doing.
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05-27-2008, 06:41 PM
Its nice to know that there are some parents who show concern.
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05-27-2008, 06:50 PM
Even if sites were monitored better,
there will still always be incredibly moronic children like these, and it won't really stop anything.
While it isn't fair for the parents, who have to deal with it,
these children obviously weren't mentally fit to live. I see nothing wrong with it.
Although I do like that it's giving such a shit fad like emo a bad name.
A false name, but a bad one, nonetheless. That's a little progress.
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05-27-2008, 07:00 PM
Well the one who is being kept an eye on more, has an younger sister so they had an internet blocker on their computer for a long while so her parents had control over what her and her sister went on. But since they got a laptop and got rid of the computer the internet blocker has been taken off becuase her mother can check what she's been on. But her parents have always kept an eye on her ever since they found out she turned "emo" which was when emo reached it hight in popularity.
Parent power is what is pushing these websites to take more responcibility over the protection of users on their sites especially now after a TV program ealier this year about how easy it is for online preditors to contact younger teens and after what happened with that girl.
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05-27-2008, 07:05 PM
What good would better parental monitoring do, anyway?
Obviously, these kids are fucked in the head.
Punishing them will only last so long.
After that, they'll be adults, and capable of much worse things.
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05-27-2008, 07:31 PM
Better parental monertering would enable the parents to see if there are any possible signs of depression, they might never show to their parents how they are really feeling but to others online there is the possiblity that they might tell online friends. In which case then appropritate action can be taken.
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05-27-2008, 11:30 PM
But this kid wasn't depressed.
She was just STUPID.
Unless I'm misinterpreting this here, she was killing herself to be cool.
No amount of parental monitoring is going to prevent idiocy.
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05-28-2008, 02:18 AM
@ Fabby: It said in the article that she had scratches on her wrists, which to me would be a warning to get the kid some help. I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't ignore my kid hurting themselves.
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