I think any and all "donate to the person above you" charities should be banned... The reason behind this is because everyone expects everyone else to just give them gold and not many people are willing to donate more than 10 gold to the person above them. Its a no-win situation... and unfair.

Thing is... don't get involved if you don't want to risk something. I can see why though but still, 10 gold is better than no gold...

If you give 10 gold to get 10 gold, you're not actually gaining anything. How does that count as a charity of any sort?

If someone wants to be nice and give you gold, they will and they'll do it without posting in a place where they are supposed to receive too, right?

The whole scheme seems pretty pointless to me.

Basically, it's just a situation of hoping the person below you will be more generous than you are. They probably won't be. It's easier to just beg from a charity. Like For-Chan Cookie said, if you get 10 gold and give 10 gold it was a waste of time.

Pointless or no, there's no reason to not let them do it.

Not only will everyone most likely be giving the bare minimum, but the people going in are going to be the ones who want gold and don't have much to give. The people who have gold don't need to post in a thread where the poor person under them has to fork over ten gold to them. It's just not very well thought out.

If you're just donating to someone in order to get something for yourself that kind of negates the concept of charity anyway. I agree that it seems kind of pointless, but I don't think it's against the rules.

10 gold is worth more on Mene than on Gaia if you haven't noticed. They both have different prices and basically their own economies. I think they should stay, they're are a good way to raise money and fun to chat in.Now on gaia, they don't work the same. Mene people are nicer and might actually donate. But yea if you don't like them, just don't participate in them at all :\

Originally Posted by Izabella

I think any and all "donate to the person above you" charities should be banned... The reason behind this is because everyone expects everyone else to just give them gold and not many people are willing to donate more than 10 gold to the person above them. Its a no-win situation... and unfair.

i agree and think it should be banned, i dont think anyone has ever donated anything to me and actually i've had to earn stuff on here myself, it's worth earning everything i can! it's more satisfying if you earn stuff on your own anyways!

well, i'm off of this thread!

I think.. if you don't want to be a part of the thread and donate to another person... don't participate in the thread. Simple.

I just avoid the charities, but I agree with you. There should be a limit.

How is that even a charity? Its like a user run charity....
But basically like most people have said, its a waste of time to donate 10 gold to earn 10 gold.
Its like trading a dollar for a dollar.

Originally Posted by jurupamae

I think.. if you don't want to be a part of the thread and donate to another person... don't participate in the thread. Simple.

You'll probably be wishing you didn't say that in 2-3 months when something stupid happens and ya'll WILL have to ban those threads. :|

But the thing is, it's hard to avoid those threads when there's like 5 or more of them, and then all of a sudden a new one is created, and I can see someone cheating on them with a mule or something. I just don't like the concept of it... And the only time someone gets anything thats worth something is when they are close friends and they dont consider donating to people they dont know... But yeah Im just not going to participate in them. I think it's retarded.

What, exactly, is the reason to give to shut them down?

I'm not sure where they are 'wrong'?

I certainly am not interested in it. It's like a lottery - sort of - in that you might donate a little and get a lot in return. If you don't like the risk, you don't play the game. Find a charity that appeals to you more.

Once, and only once I have ever been donated to, I don't ask for help, and while I do whine about being in my undies, I never expect to be given anything.

I will say the day I woke up and found a new fox tail in my inventory I was so happy I made a thread thanking whoever sent it as I didn't know who it was. The thread was locked. sigh. It was considered spam. This was an other site, clearly.

Anyway my point is, these threads don't seem to hurt anyone, I mean its kinda buy beware right? Personally I like to randomly find people saying its my birthday and send them something small. It feels nice to know someday they might wake up to a cute little fox tail that they would never have bought them selves. Isn't that the point of donating?

Did this post make any sense? I think it might be time to eat as my thoughts are not going in a straight line.

Originally Posted by Izabella

But the thing is, it's hard to avoid those threads when there's like 5 or more of them, and then all of a sudden a new one is created, and I can see someone cheating on them with a mule or something. I just don't like the concept of it... And the only time someone gets anything thats worth something is when they are close friends and they dont consider donating to people they dont know... But yeah Im just not going to participate in them. I think it's retarded.

That shouldn't be a problem because only one of those types of threads is allowed in the charity forum.

I'm neither here nor there on whether they should be banned.
I've had some positive experiences in those types of threads.
It is a shame if someone posts and doesn't donate though.

I've personally donated all my current gold at the time to whatever user was above me. I've also been donated everything from .1 gold to 100 gold in that thread. It just depends on who goes after you. Mene has charitable people who drop by once in awhile and sees a new person in need.....there are also new user accounts who go in there and give as little as possible because they only want what the next person has to give. It's luck of the draw and it's not against the forum rules as long as something is given.

I've also seen other users receive CIs and the such in that thread.

Hmm...that reminds me,
I haven't been posting in the charity section much
so I don't even realized that there are
these kind of thread in Menewsha.

But I think Charity is quite a fast forum,
so if you don't want to join it
or if you think they are retarded,
then just stop posting in them.

And since talking alone with your mules
are against the rules (even in charity, i think)
so unless the thread's starter has a partner
who's willing to help the thread to survive,
sooner or later the thread will died and closed by itself.

It's not that I support them,
but I really don't find the reasons
why this kind of thread should be banned.

Some people might get into super generous mode
and drop the gold to some random strangers
without actually expecting anything in return.
I know there are people like that
hanging around in charity section.

So it's like playing lucky lottery, i guess?

Originally Posted by Blondheart

If you're just donating to someone in order to get something for yourself that kind of negates the concept of charity anyway. I agree that it seems kind of pointless, but I don't think it's against the rules.

Totally agree with that completely. Whatever happened to giving out of the goodness of your heart?

But yeah, things like those are totally just for fun, and it's really to get or give actually, so no one should be coming in there expecting anything really.

.... why? There's only one allowed anyways. Why not let it happen?

And it's nice. sometimes you get huge donations.

Or you donate an item you don't want anymore, and get something new.

I have never been donated to on any site except gaia...and all i got was trash[literally].I`m not making a big deal out of though i find it a bit satisfying for me to earn my own things and avatars but i would be nice if people did help me even just a tiny bit.Those threads however don`t seem thought out in the least bit.I agree with the fact that one of you posters before me said it was like trading a dollar for a dollar,your not losing nor gaining anything so whats the point? and people are usually not generous in those threads and give you stuff even they would not want or real small amounts of the gold/currency.I`m not sure if i want them banned though since some people enjoy that sort of thing,though i don`t.

Originally Posted by omgitsme

Those threads however don`t seem thought out in the least bit.

Well if you look at the thread being discussed, it was created well over a year ago. It was probably one of the first charity threads made, and was probably really cool back when no one (generally with a few exceptions I'm sure) had much on the site.

Anyway, it's been locked now since the original poster is seemingly inactive. ^^;

I think this is a concept that was carried over from other avatar sites (primarily Gaia) that just dosn't work as well on here as it dose on other sites.On Gaia for example the donate threads focas on items-especily event and older items people may not have been online for.But here beacuse of how long it takes to earn gold there is just no way to even out the playing feild bewteen people with lots of gold and those with none.So those types of threads due end up breaking even most of the time.Not to sound critical or anything it's just a thread idea that dosn't work well here.You know good intentions,bad idea sorta thing.

Originally Posted by Izabella

And the only time someone gets anything thats worth something is when they are close friends and they dont consider donating to people they dont know...

Not neccassarily true. I've donated to people I don't know just because I like their avatar or nick, or saw that they don't have much, or are questing something. I mainly do this on other sites, but when I start getting more here I'm sure I'll do that as well here.

Originally Posted by iRandall

10 gold is worth more on Mene than on Gaia if you haven't noticed. They both have different prices and basically their own economies. I think they should stay, they're are a good way to raise money and fun to chat in.Now on gaia, they don't work the same. Mene people are nicer and might actually donate. But yea if you don't like them, just don't participate in them at all :\

No one said anything about Gaia?

I do agree that the "donate to the person above/below you" threads shouldn't be considered as real "charity" type threads based on the fact that most of the time people a.) don't donate, b.) donate less than given (that's fine, it's based on user choice, but benefits no one in the long run), or c.) donate a lot and expect a good return (thus becoming selfish and angry)..

It's a bad way to run a charity, but not necessarily against the rules.