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Old 10-01-2008, 07:45 AM

Well, from the people I know who are bi, they usually do prefer one gender over the other. whether it be same sex or opposite sex.

I agree a little with the post above. I feel like i'm 100% straight because the thought of being with my same- sex in bed is just uncomfortable to me. even though I catch myself looking at the same sex sometimes. Basically I like guys and consider myself straight, but I can tell when another girl is hot, or pretty or whatever.

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Old 10-16-2008, 11:52 AM

Well unless you marry a woman and a man, or stay single forever, then you're not bi. If you're only bi "for a time" then it means you were just indecisive or confused.

And yes girl crushes completely exist, it's just how society works. Women are praised for their beauty and men usually aren't, so of course girls who like pretty things will like other women. Most lesbian relationships, once they've been together for around 6 months, actually stop having sex almost entirely. Once you stop having sex in the relationship then (to me) it's more like having a soul mate than a lover. I think girl crushes are a lot like this post-sex lesbian love, it just never had the sex part. Women being social creatures are always going to have more intimate relationships than men, so it's just natural for them to open up to each other more.

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#28
Old 10-16-2008, 01:06 PM

This is actually something I've been thinking of a lot lately. Reason being, I am sexually attracted to males, to mostly every part of a male's body. However, I think I love womens' breasts. ._.; I find them much more attractive than anything a man has, but when I think about actually having sex with a woman, the desire isn't really there any more. I like breasts, but the rest of a woman's body is...well...a turn-off. This confused me, which left me thinking about it, and I still haven't really figured out whether or not this would make me, or anyone else for that matter, bi.

I think I'm going to go with some of the things others have already said, though. Maybe very few people are genuinely 100% straight or gay. I hadn't really thought about that before...

However, I do not think that simply thinking another person of the same sex is pretty means you're bi. I can see that certain people are good looking in the same way I would think my favorite car is good looking, or my favorite flower is beautiful. To be bisexual, I think that you actually have to be sexually attracted to something about both genders. Noticing that someone is good looking does not necessarily mean that you desire them because they're good looking. It just means you have eyes and can see. xD

And I don't think that you have to marry a woman and man in order to be considered bi. When you marry someone, I don't think it should be for sex. While you can be sexually attracted to both men and women, you may only fall in love with one person. This person just might happen to be the opposite sex. If, for this reason, you stop having sex with the same sex, it doesn't suddenly mean that you are no longer attracted to them as well as the opposite sex. It's just that you respect your wife or husband and don't want to cheat on them, so you don't act on these desires. It doesn't mean they are nonexistent.

I don't think you have to love both sexes equally. I guess if you simply feel sexual attraction to both, no matter how much more appealing one is than the other, you could be bi.

Of course, this is all just my opinion and, to be truthful, it's only just forming. As I said, I've been thinking about this for a while and it's still not completely clear in my head. I'm really liking the 'few are 100% straight or gay' idea though. It makes a lot of sense to me.

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Old 10-17-2008, 05:41 AM

My qualifications for bisexuality are these:

1.) You can picture yourself having/ have no objections to sex with either gender. You can feel passionate about both.

2.) You can picture yourself in a lasting relationship with either gender-- this includes feeling of love, affection, and actual desire. If you have wanted to be with someone of either gender, and have specifically felt conflicted about it, then you're probably bi.

3.) If you can picture the rest of your life married, you should be able to fit either a male or a female partner into that scenario without any sort of internal conflict.


As an aside, I'm bisexual. And it bothers the hell out of anyone I date, because I genuinely do express interest in both genders at all times. However, I am a very loyal and loving partner, and I have no problem in focusing all of my romantic attention on the person I'm with.

Some bisexual people are switch-hitters, and feel equally for either gender but tend to "go" for one gender at a time... e.g., they are dating a girl and prefer to look at girls for a year straight, and then the next prefer boys. They still have no objection to either gender, but they hold a preference at any given time. Other bisexuals are genuinely, really, frustratingly bisexual, and don't really ever bother about gender so much as, "Hmm... attractive... charming.... I like."

I'm one of the frustrating types. We occasionally piss off lesbians, gays and heterosexuals alike. At least, I've noticed that any member of these groups who has recently been hard up for dates will suddenly become very irritable with me. :)


General rules, if you're bisexual:
1.) Know how to maintain the difference between a friendship and a possible romance.
2.) Be faithful to the person you're with.


Most people that I've met are really more bi-curious-- specifically, they don't object to sex, but only really have true relationships with people of a single gender.

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#30
Old 10-18-2008, 08:31 PM

Based on your scenerio, that woman was right... if you're a girl and you're not SEXUALLY attracted to girls than you are not bi...

Me, I like guys and girls sexually so I am bi.

See it all makes sense. Lol.

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#31
Old 10-19-2008, 11:18 PM

I believe bisexuality is having a romantic/sexual relationship with someone.

Someone can be straight and kiss a girl, like Katy Perry with her song "I kissed a girl". Or at least, I think Katy Perry is straight. I never looked into her history.

Bisexuality to me is confusing. I hear some people go "I'm bisexual, but I'd NEVER sleep with a girl ever!" or they'll go "I'm bisexual, but I like women a lot more than men." It seems kind of odd to me, persay? I wouldn't consider myself bisexual, though I do see a girl every once in a while and go "If I was a guy, I'd be flirting with that in a heartbeat." But it's always "If I was a guy". I've never thought about sleeping with a girl, because I could never picture myself in a physical relationship with a woman. Not saying it's impossible, I've just never pictured it because I was never driven to like that particular gender. Although, bisexuality I think is more about loving the inner being, not the outer being with gender and things of that nature. I think it's for loving who's within and the physical features of a person that defines attraction, excluding the fact of if they are a man or a woman.

But who knows, only a true bisexual would know what bisexuality really means.

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#32
Old 10-21-2008, 10:44 PM

Without the sexual urge for both sexes, you aren't bi.

I know cuz I'm bi.

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#33
Old 10-22-2008, 01:01 AM

bi is hard to classify in my mind, I run into issues where I can technically have urges both ways, but then again I am like 90% straight, so I am basicalyl straight. It is hard though for a while cause some people find it amusing, and some are like eww gross, but it is hard to go on my past when I have dated both sexes...

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#34
Old 10-23-2008, 08:20 PM

It's a lifestyle choice for women mainly. Women can be attracted to both sexes, and that confuses them.
You choose your lifestyle.
For men though, it might be a bit different... Since there is scientific proof that gay males are genetically different than straight males. I believe they haven't found the same thing in women.

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Old 10-24-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by /2 y n x View Post
Someone can be straight and kiss a girl, like Katy Perry with her song "I kissed a girl". Or at least, I think Katy Perry is straight. I never looked into her history.
:stare: Yes. She's straight. And that's a really, really annoying song for girls who actually do prefer other girls. She also has a song with the following lyrics,

Quote:
You’re so gay and you don’t even like boys
and that is pretty the entirety of the repetitive, hyperpop, overproduced track. It is INANE and those lyrics are the ENTIRE chorus.

I have angry-face for Katy Perry. I really do. :-x

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#36
Old 10-26-2008, 12:41 AM

I think its a little stupid to try to put something like sexuality in neat little boxes.
But society is always going to try, so I suppose there is no hope of stopping it...

I think I'm bisexual, if the label must be stuck on.

Honestly? I'm just a sexual person.
I find both men and women's bodies highly attractive.
I prefer men, but that's because I cannot see myself in a long-lasting, romantic relationship with another girl. -shrug-
Now a sexual relationship, that I can see. :lol:
But that's because, like I said, I'm a sexual person. >_>; -cough-

So am I bi? I dunno. I don't use labels really.
I'm just...a people person. ;)

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#37
Old 10-29-2008, 09:08 AM

People can't just dismiss others for not being bi just because they've never had relations with the same gender. The way I see it, if a girl who is presumably heterosexual says that she's straight, but has never had a boyfriend or kissed a boy or anything, does that mean she's asexual?

It's the same with people who are bi or homosexual. If a person knows what they are attracted to, even if they haven't had experience with them, then I believe they are the orientation that they claim to be. I guess to me, you're bisexual if you know exactly what you want, and aren't all "I think I might be..." It's all in degrees of want.

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#38
Old 11-01-2008, 12:44 AM

This is what my mom tells me. Since liking the opposite is the norm, this is obviously what I'd want. I just haven't found the right one.
I feel I could either way. Since I am asexual, it's a bit harder to define me.
If I want a relationship potentially and it's going to be an asexual one either way, am I still Bi?. I hung out with a gay group before.
I'm far more concerned about shared interests and values then the other person's gender.
I figure whatever body these traits are found in, then that's what I'd take.

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Old 11-01-2008, 11:28 PM

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I'm far more concerned about shared interests and values then the other person's gender.
I figure whatever body these traits are found in, then that's what I'd take.

I feel the same way, except that I also have a definite attraction to both male and female aesthetics. However, if I think of someone as physically attractive I probably still won't pay any attention to that person unless I find out something about their personality that works for me.

"She's good with kids! She's funny! And she's got that long gorgeous hair and those big eyes...."

The last part never happens without the first. Which is useful, because otherwise I would be doomed: there are lots of physically attractive people in the world. My preference for certain personality types keeps me far from the possibility of romantic ADD.

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Old 11-08-2008, 04:33 AM

I know it's possible for people to be bi-male and bi-fem. Where they like one gender over another, but still have feelings for both genders.

I think that counts as being bisexual, just different percentages of it. P:

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#41
Old 11-22-2008, 06:04 AM

I would think that Bisexuality is only if you go all the way with a girl. If you crush on ONLY girls, maybe you just don't like guys. It doesn't make you Bi, but that's just my opinion on this situation.

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#42
Old 11-22-2008, 06:05 PM

Sexual orientation isn't stamped on someone's forehead. You can't ever know another person's experience of the opposite and same sex. If someone has enough interest to say they're bisexual, even if they favor one sex or have only been with people of one sex, I take their word for it.

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#43
Old 11-22-2008, 06:33 PM

Bisexuality, in my opinion, is when you have the SAME feelings and attractions to BOTH genders.

Bisexuality, is NOT, when you have a crush on your friend (as the fad in schools is going) and you would date them but never go further than a kiss or even that far.
I personally HATE the fad, I think it is ridiculous that it is the "in" thing for some schools and just a way to get attention or be popular.

Either way, I am not bisexual, I am asexual but I have many true bisexual friends who have romantically dated both genders at least once before and remained having attractions to said gender.

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Old 11-23-2008, 02:02 PM

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How would one classify someone as bisexual?
This is my personal opinion and where I have always stood on the topic. I personally think to be bisexual is to actually have had sexual intercourse with someone of the same gender. You can jump back and forth between the two and can find (and I use this word lightly) love, in someone of the same gender. Just as easily as you would find love in someone of the opposite gender. The whole while your preference is that of someone of the opposite gender.

I hated the kids in high school who claimed they were bi, because they kissed their female friend. Sorry but, I've kissed a lot of girls before and that never made me bi. It was fun, my personal favorite thing to do is kiss, make out, and I don't usually care weather it is a girl or guy. Admittedly girls have smaller tongues, so I like kissing em better!
Yes I did crush on girls, and thought they were pretty and that I could so go "lesbian" for them. I never claimed I was bisexual because of those feelings. They were just feelings and until I made them physical and real, those feelings did not and would not decide my sexual preference.
Now, I personally, by my standards can claim I am bisexual. I have been sexually active with a female, I was for four years and in a strong "lesbian" relationship. My preference is male, and I intend to marry a man. BUT I can and will, willingly sleep with a female.

To think someone attractive, to play girlfriend & girlfriend is fine and dandy. Doesn't make you bisexual, just makes you a fad-follower.

I think guys are prone to be more truthful about that kind of thing. I am more likely to believe a guy who says he is bisexual, then a girl. Girls tend to always have stronger, closer relationships with other girls. Often time claiming they are bisexual because of that natural closeness that happens between close (best friends).

Where as I find guys tend not to jump out there giggling and holding hands. Claiming they are bisexual. So when they do come out and say it, it tends to be more heartfelt and truthful, they really mean it. Since admitting something like that is a big deal for a guy. Though there are exceptions, there always are.

Not saying all girls who claim to be bisexual aren't. Only that the majority of the population of high school or teenage girls who play bisexuality. Are doing it as a fad thing and would never actually end up in a female to female relationship. Playing it safe and only ever kissing a girl here or there, cuddling at parties and generally teasing the heterosexual guys.

Since as we all know to play it lesbian, gets you the guys attention.

Just like playing gay, makes you that safe guy and girls fall all over you.

So I stand that you must have sexual intercourse with someone off the oposite gender, while being in a serious relationship. To claim bisexuality. I want physical proof. Just like I would expect from a gay guy or a lesbian female. Physical proof, not just placing claims.

I guess I'm tired of people pretending is all ^______^'

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Old 11-23-2008, 07:10 PM

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This is my personal opinion and where I have always stood on the topic. I personally think to be bisexual is to actually have had sexual intercourse with someone of the same gender. You can jump back and forth between the two and can find (and I use this word lightly) love, in someone of the same gender. Just as easily as you would find love in someone of the opposite gender. The whole while your preference is that of someone of the opposite gender.
I believe your post was well thought out and well written, and I only have this one item to dispute.

By that definition, virgins are heterosexual without exception, since they've not had intercourse with anyone. Unless it is your conjecture that people are asexual until they have sex, which I suppose I have an easier time comprehending.

I've personally never had sex with another man. I never will, now, out of faithfulness to my wife, but I can say with 100% certainty that had I connected with a man in the same way that I connect with my wife, I would've had no qualms whatsoever about becoming sexually involved with him and marrying him. By your definition, I'm not bisexual and never was because I never had sex with a man, and I disagree.

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#46
Old 11-23-2008, 07:57 PM

I consider myself bi, and so do my friends, even though i've only had crushes on girls and my only 2 relationships have been with guys. I don't find guys attractive in the same way girls are. I only like guys if i'm friends with them first. But girls are actually attractive to me.
I used to wonder what it would be like if my ex-boyfriend was a girl, while I was going out with him. My current boyfriend is perfectly fine as a guy though, probably because we're practically best friends and it would be weird if he was suddenly a girl.

Anyway, that's my view on bisexuality. I like guys, but they're not appealing (physically) like girls are. guys are for being in a relationship with and girls are for having sex with (for the record i've never had sex because i really don't want to have sex with a guy but it would be ok with a girl).

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#47
Old 11-24-2008, 12:45 AM

Kinmotsu: It's a hard thing to explain. I would believe an adult who said he or she was bisexual, just by their word alone. No proof needed. But from a teenagers standpoint I want proof, I don't want some fad-follower.

When I was in high school, I wanted proof. I was bisexual, I knew it, I had a relationship with another female, it was genuine, I loved her. yet everyone in my group of friends was bisexual as well, and I demanded fucking proof. I've also never had sex with a man, came damn close but never did. I have had the same strong feelings for both a men and woman.

Going by my definition of weather I am bisexual, homosexual or heterosexual. I would actually be homosexual, since I have only ever been with a female. Until I finally get married. Which I guess I don't care one way or another. It's just a sexual preference to be. Who cares. But I just done care one way or the other, no sexual preference bothers me as a person or my morals.

Personally think you're heterosexual until you choose to be homosexual or bisexual. However, claims can only make me believe you so far. I have known people almost all my life and they claim they're bisexual. BUT you get another guy in the room, who (guy A, claiming bisexuality) says he likes and he becomes the biggest homophobic dick this side of the moon. Same goes with several females I know.

So I doubt, I strongly doubt teens. I refuse to believe them without proof.

Guess I'm just trying to get an opinion out!

Like I said, I don't care what sexual orientation you choose to be. It had better be real though and not some fad you're following to land chicks or tease the hot guy you like. Using a sexual life style choice as an object to gain you something, isn't a good thing to be doing. It's offensive to those who are truly that sexuality and it's degrading to yourself if you ask me.

Eh, I have so many views on the subject. I'm sorry, if the things I say switch and flop back and forth. QQ'

You know what I am SEXUALITY AMBIVALENT!

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#48
Old 11-24-2008, 01:43 AM

[from experience]

Being able to LOVE someone of any sex. Not just havin sex w/ em. I'm sure there's some folks that look so good, you'd smex just for that reason. But if you can LOVE someone for ya know...the "corny" stuff, then you could call yerself bi.

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#49
Old 11-24-2008, 02:13 AM

I think that's generally it. It's about attraction and attraction isn't all about the physical or the sexual. :)

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#50
Old 12-08-2008, 05:26 PM

In order to be bisexual you have to want the other sex in the same ways as your first choise. You don't have to be completely even in your desire. I'm SUPER picky about my women. I've only ever sexually been with one. I've been with a lot more guys. Thing is as long as you have the same feelings towards specific people in both sexes then you can be considered bi.

 


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