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*reads to catch up*
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like the buffy world. EVERYONE knows about vampires by this day and age. so having a 'one girl in all the world' chosen to fight them wans't to hard to come up with. the movie started off with an apparent airhead as the next slayer. then shifting intot he tv series we see she's growen, learns to show responsibility and fights her own immaturity and need to be 'just a normal girl'. and that her actions lead to consequences. while she might be strong, fast, and able to hunt vampires, she's still a girl. we see her struggle to 'keep' her secret identity and still have a normal life. and we learn she is the oldest living slayer ever. literally her FIGHT to have her own life BESIDES being a slayer. is what makes her so good at it.
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The longer a show is on, the more you learn too. You don't need all the details at once. You need the little things and you have to learn when details need to be pre-established. SVU is another good example TV show. It starts in one place, with pre-set ideas, like that Benson is born from a rape and Stabler has a wife and four kids or five at the time, so on and so forth. While needing to know beginning details, there also has to be room for growth. Growth is what also leads a reader along the journey.
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Kinda like ray, when we first started with him he only thought about himself. he didn't consider Hallow a person or 'gasp' a mate. he's still possesive but now he does things in consideration tohow hallow would respond and a time or two..he's actually thought of theother as mate.
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And we made him utterly freak out at having to hold his firstborn child. He was so clueless. I enjoy doing that to supposedly strong characters. Slaughter people? Sure, he can do that. Rip someone's heart out? Easy. Hold a baby...AHHHHHHHHHHH!
---------- Post added 11-03-2013 at 05:24 PM ---------- By the way, Timmy, you read pretty slow if all you've replied is that you're reading to catch up. You, sir, are way behind. |
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---------- Post added 11-03-2013 at 04:49 PM ---------- and yes, lones way behind. hasn't even really TALKED in ehre. 'snort' i bet he lets it die.. 'shrugs' |
Lone, question us! Come on, you have to what to know how to do SOMETHING specific. Like, how to start a story. What is it that should be part of an opening.
---------- Post added 11-03-2013 at 09:39 PM ---------- Screw it, I'm answering the question I posted inadvertently on my own! What should an opening post contain? Well, that all depends on a background you have given to a character, in my opinion. If they have suffered a lot, then an opening with some action might be in order. If they are more normal and things are about to come crashing down on them, then a small look at how 'normal' their life is, how not unusual it is, can be a wonderful contrast for the changes about to land in their lap whether they like it or not. Before starting any story, know for sure just what skills and powers or whatever you want your character to have. Know what is key to WHO and WHAT they are so that you know how they will react and handle a situation when in the middle of it. If you do not understand your character, then the situation is moot. You will literally just throw things into posts or into a story, if you write alone, that make no sense and that drag the character's personality and skill-set everywhere. Which creates something disjointed and confusing, and therefore annoying, for the reader. It sounds complicated sometimes, but a few small details make things so much easier. If a character is naturally calm with an average life, then they might have a good handle on their emotions but they also will be very confused by anything strange and new if the life was 'average' before hand. If they are someone used to surprises, then they might very well handle the strange and new with much more ease and stride. I suppose the importance of what I'm stressing is that you should have some idea of just WHO you are playing before you consider WHAT you are playing. (What as in genre rather than 'what' as in race or creature of a character, because admittedly, that kind of 'what' can be useful sometimes.) ---------- Post added 11-03-2013 at 09:48 PM ---------- Also, Lone, I have determined I will begin to grade you on your posts. Because you do not post for rp nearly enough. Yes, that is what I shall do now. I shall grade you. And average it at the end of each month. Muwhahaha! Call it practice for becoming a teacher one day myself if I manage to get that kind of job. |
Like severus is good with mental wards and sheilds of all types..but handling his emotions is sort of beyond him. he's used to having to shift personality a lot. he can go from red hot anger to cold and cool in a minute if he acutally wanted to or the situation called for it. then agian he doens't handle touch well and he REALLY is uncomfortable with having to face his emotions. it makes him both strident and a bit.. errm..crabby? Emotional? err.. he gets mad easily.. i suppose.
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See, Star understands character and world building, which is really the beginning of everything in a way. There are other ways to start a story, I just prefer knowing a main character first and then building world, goals, and story line. That is me, for you, or even Star, things could be different. Star is a Silver Star writer right now. I say that because of her grammar strictly and the fact she writes in Star-nese. She's working towards Gold Star. I call myself Silver Star too because even I am still learning. I have books about HOW to write. That alone should tell you something. There is always room to learn and improve, so never think we're just tearing into you. We are sharing wisdom that has been hard won. You're a Bronze Star, but it's better than no star at all! You're getting close to that coveted Silver Star. (I only count Gold Star as someone who's actually published...and more than one poem (like me). A little work, and one day we'll all snag Gold Stars, and yes your game creation counts as part of this, because it is character and world creation.) See, our help can fit anywhere.
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'rubs eyes' there's also always keeping certian peices of the back store in mind. if the character .. say grew up on the farm.. or has a gift with plants or, like sev, does potions. their gonna feel most comfortable in certian settings. with sev, its a potions lab. he feels incontrolt here. and hte world feels more distant. as if it can't hurt him. tak ehim out of that setting and he's uncomfortable, irritable, and feels threatend at least a little bit ALL of the time..
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There's also a concept of not revealing everything in one go. You do not want to overload someone from the beginning. Share what is most relevant at that moment. And through other posts, if in RP, reveal HINTS of other things. Hints come in the forms of movement. Say, a character does not like touch. Like Star's Severus, he flinches. But it is not stated outright he hates touch. He finches, twitches, moves away. Eventually, key word there, he will share why he dislikes touch. But it is never said 'he dislikes touch', it is shown. Show, do not tell. That is the hardest thing for a writer to learn. I had issues with it for a while, believe me. And sometimes I still catch myself doing it. I have to re-work entire sections when I realize I have been telling more than showing. Realizing you have to 'show' makes you more conscious of action, thought and speech for characters.
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My teachers where actually books so i learned the 'show' first.. of coruse without understanding how to actually tell a story.. showing means a very confusing well story. i used to 'borrow' characters from other peoples work and write whats now refered to as 'fanfiction' with them in my world haha. still do it to 'nods' i just so do not claim ownership.
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I never really used characters that were not my own until I began RP with you, and even then I put my spins on them that make them mostly completely new. I still have my preference for personal characters, I like to create, I do not like to take. It is a personal pet peeve of mine. I have never written a fanfiction, though I do not mind our little play on the side which no one else ever sees. I do it for you because I loves you.
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I know you spoil me.. and its not like my characters are anything like their original counterparts..could you imagine HP's Severus beign anythign like mine? Voldemort wouldn't of lived.. and dumbledore would not of been able to keep severus from down right snatching harry up and keep ing hte kid safe fromt he world for that matter..he'd of never ended up with those emotionally abusive Muggles.
---------- Post added 11-04-2013 at 10:54 AM ---------- One thing lone does that annoy s the heck outta me, is you'll tell him a great dream right. that you OBVIOUSLY want to rp badly. otherwise why would you tell him about it? and then he'll go 'oh.. we can do that OR we can ...' and throw up something you are obviously not interested in but know if you don't rp he'll kill said rp in like a few boxes. he does it EVERY TIME and then wonders why i get down right crabby. or give half hearted posts. ---------- Post added 11-04-2013 at 12:55 PM ---------- another thing that is annoying is taking forever in a day to get any where in a story. it drags it on. makes the partner have to WORK to keep the story moving, and if its a story YOU picked out, its doubly annoying. and not to mention rude as all hell. Another problem is if a person doesn't consider all the facts. say, you wan tot do a rp with say Dracula, his brides, and a hunter. but the person only considers dracula and the hunter characters. their purposely LEAVING OUT a third rp character type. which is annoying as well. |
I'm not that bad, am I?
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YES you are. you ignore us when we try and tell you what we want to rp, but still have the gull to ask if we want to rp. if we don't rp what you want the rp dies with in a few posts. never mind we didn't want to rp it and yoru worse with msitress because she's to nice to tell you where to shove it. she told you a GREAT rp she wanted to do. but then you went 'or we could do this' and started spouting your rp wants. she does YOUR rp almost all the time. you very rarely do hers. and then when you do YOU KILL IT ON PURPOSE. and don't say you don't. if its not what you want. you kill it. you might claim you don't but you just don't try. and when you want OUT of an rp. you pull the 'grandma's threatend to cut the internet' but then i see you on at like four or five in the morning...apparenlty she didn't cut the internet. it gets old. and fast lone. you complain your an insensitive jerk and should change.. but you don't. YOU ASK what we want to rp, we tell you , but if its not what you want the rp pretty much dies. so why tell you? just easier to rp what YOU want. I at least TRY to do things she wants. i might not do them to well but i try.
---------- Post added 11-04-2013 at 04:07 PM ---------- Meh i decided my girls been out in the rain 'nods' what'cha think cel? ---------- Post added 11-04-2013 at 05:09 PM ---------- TimmyTheNerd: okay fine, you don't want to talk to me period. just block me. don't sit there and ignore me when i've been try ing to talk to you. |
I have no complaints, at least none I am willing to share. I am a writer, I want to write. I'll gladly teach him too as long as he's willing to do some form of rp. It's just that he hasn't really gotten into any in the last week. I can't do anything if we do nothing. That's perhaps my biggest complaint.
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meh. like your avi by the way 'nods'
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Hmm another thing I've noticed, is if he gets irritated he goes into a 'sulk'. especially if he's proven wrong. he doesn't even try and join the conversation. and if its 'games' he wants to talk about he purposely says it and then 'because star doesn't like it' ... like its my fault he can't join the conversation because the only thing he wants to talk about are games. 'sigh' or complain about his family. or his life. or if you tell him somethings wrong in YOUR life.. suddenly he has some huge problem in his .. and most of his RP's he does a 'this is my character, WANT him' undertone. of course he claims he's not. but its still there. and then he pulls the 'i didn't know i was doing that'..'mutters an oath'.
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Star, I get it. I'm an idiot. ._.
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Hey, genius, sign on to AIM.
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Like he's gonna do that. then he actually has to think.
---------- Post added 11-05-2013 at 07:47 AM ---------- Though I CAN admit that he has improved SOME. his opening posts are WAY better then when i first met him. He's more detailed, and gives a lot of information. of course, if its in a game world he gives ether to much information, or to little info, he doesn't spread it out through the rp or doesn't give enough. but he HAS improved..err some. I mean heck he can do an occasional box and a half of post now. that is WAY better then what.. ten years ago? ---------- Post added 11-05-2013 at 07:48 AM ---------- TimmyTheNerd: you'll wanna read some of the above. |
Exactly. At least I've gotten him from five words to two or three hundred minimum for an opening post. I can get a character description out of him now, sometimes even more! I just need to get his stamina to last through more of the posts.
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I haven't improved that much.
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LONE who is teaching you? Cel and me? yeah i thought so so if we say you have improved, you have improved. so stop arguing with us.
and MAN they have this one head peice that normally doesn't look good with anythign i just tried it on in the MP ( Market Place), and it looks ABSOLUTELY GORGES. ---------- Post added 11-05-2013 at 08:40 AM ---------- Cel meh dream avi or newest one anyways. migh tmake it more wintery later: http://i.imgur.com/w9pJGkg.png |
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