Naluc
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04-14-2010, 08:40 PM
I heard of this story and it rather sickens me. Heck yes to trying her as an adult. I mean, most people have the common sense not to sell out a 7 year old for sex.. It's just beyond foolish, it's just plain morbid.
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04-15-2010, 05:11 AM
By 15, you're old enough to know that selling a person is wrong, and also that allowing ANYONE to rape a child is wrong. Just how wrong, maybe you're not aware; after all, that part of your brain might not be done developing, but you SURE as hell aren't young enough to think "Oh, this is something I've seen on TV, so it's no big deal~!" Therefore, I think she should be tried as an adult, as should all of the people involved. Furthermore, I think the parents should be charged with gross negligence and/or child endangerment for leaving the girl in that situation.
If they were my children, I'd probably end up shooting myself. Or force the names of all the brat's friends out of her by any means possible, and then drag them to the cops PERSONALLY...and then proceed to hate myself and wonder how in the HELL I raised such a subhuman piece of filth. x_x
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04-15-2010, 04:44 PM
At 15?! I don't think I can blame anyone but the parents. Though I don't think most parents would come out randomly and say to their older daughter "Don't sell your younger sister for sex now kido," but I do think (if they didn't already) that the parents should atleast talk to the oldest about sex and what's wrong and right with it. I think this 15 year old should be punished now. Put her in jr. jail or something. That's just crazy and wrong! That poor little 7 year old is possibly scard for life. Unless, ofcourse, she enjoyed it .-. You never know now a' days D: Imagine that poor little girl's pain though. Poor thing.
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04-15-2010, 05:55 PM
I think she needs to be tried as an adult. This was not an innocent children's crime that she will be able to be rehabilitated from. She sold a little girl to a group of pedophiles. This 15 year old engaged in human trafficking for profit, and used the most convenient person she could find to do it with. This is not the type of crime that should be cleaned from your record the moment you hit 18.
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04-15-2010, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Alixness
At 15?! I don't think I can blame anyone but the parents. Though I don't think most parents would come out randomly and say to their older daughter "Don't sell your younger sister for sex now kido," but I do think (if they didn't already) that the parents should atleast talk to the oldest about sex and what's wrong and right with it. I think this 15 year old should be punished now. Put her in jr. jail or something. That's just crazy and wrong! That poor little 7 year old is possibly scard for life. Unless, ofcourse, she enjoyed it .-. You never know now a' days D: Imagine that poor little girl's pain though. Poor thing.
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She didn't want it. I can tell you that much. And even if she did want it/enjoy it, it's still wrong. You don't sell a 7 year old for sex.
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04-16-2010, 05:43 AM
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Personally I'd like to see the parents get in trouble for leaving their 7-year-old in the care of a clearly troubled 15-year-old.
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Seconded. Though IMO when child rape is involved, the 15-year-old should be tried as an adult. The parents are responsible, too, for neglect on the part of both children. It's sad to think of the 15-y-o languishing in jail, though, when she's so young -- but her crime was an adult crime.
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04-16-2010, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheYaoiButterfly
She didn't want it. I can tell you that much. And even if she did want it/enjoy it, it's still wrong. You don't sell a 7 year old for sex.
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*nodnod* It is physically impossible to enjoy sex before sexual maturity.
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04-16-2010, 11:49 PM
It is unbelievably sick and disgusting what that girl had to go through and how her older sister put her through that. Hell yes I think she should be tried and jailed as an adult! She did this on purpose, and she did it without remorse or thought. Its disgusting.
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04-19-2010, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TheYaoiButterfly
She didn't want it. I can tell you that much. And even if she did want it/enjoy it, it's still wrong. You don't sell a 7 year old for sex.
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I know that, yes. But what I was getting at with the whole '7 year old enjoying it' thing is that you never know at what age a child is sexually active anymore because that knowledge is not discussed with them by their parents like it used to be. Sometimes the parents just flat out don't care. Yes, I agree it was very wrong.
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04-19-2010, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Alixness
At 15?! I don't think I can blame anyone but the parents. Though I don't think most parents would come out randomly and say to their older daughter "Don't sell your younger sister for sex now kido," but I do think (if they didn't already) that the parents should atleast talk to the oldest about sex and what's wrong and right with it. I think this 15 year old should be punished now. Put her in jr. jail or something. That's just crazy and wrong! That poor little 7 year old is possibly scard for life. Unless, ofcourse, she enjoyed it .-. You never know now a' days D: Imagine that poor little girl's pain though. Poor thing.
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Why would the parents be to blame? They didn't sell the child for sex. It was the 15-year-old. And just because her parents never told her sister not to do it doesn't mean she didn't know it was wrong. Look at everyone's reactions to the story. I bet that their parents never said to them "Don't sell your sister for sex." Did your parents? Its all about knowing right from wrong, not what you've been told. You can't say that you didn't know it was wrong just because you were never told it wasn't right. Everyone knows it is wrong, unless you are mentally impaired (I'm saying this, not to be mean, but because saying you don't know right from wrong only works when you are very young, or if you're mentally handicapped). And just because the 7 year-old enjoyed it (which I'm pretty sure she didn't), doesn't mean that the sex was okay. It's child prostitution and rape of a minor,(if have sex with anyone under the age of 18 and you're over the age of 18, it's automatically rape) and it can also be endangering the well fare of a minor, and selling a minor. Because she was taken while the child was in her older sister's care, it can be charged as kidnapping (which I'm pretty sure it will be).
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I know that, yes. But what I was getting at with the whole '7 year old enjoying it' thing is that you never know at what age a child is sexually active anymore because that knowledge is not discussed with them by their parents like it used to be. Sometimes the parents just flat out don't care. Yes, I agree it was very wrong.
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Just because a parent doesn't discuss it doesn't mean it makes a child active or they know what it is. ._.
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04-19-2010, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CiaoPinkZebra
Why would the parents be to blame? They didn't sell the child for sex. It was the 15-year-old. And just because her parents never told her sister not to do it doesn't mean she didn't know it was wrong. Look at everyone's reactions to the story. I bet that their parents never said to them "Don't sell your sister for sex." Did your parents? Its all about knowing right from wrong, not what you've been told. You can't say that you didn't know it was wrong just because you were never told it wasn't right. Everyone knows it is wrong, unless you are mentally impaired (I'm saying this, not to be mean, but because saying you don't know right from wrong only works when you are very young, or if you're mentally handicapped). And just because the 7 year-old enjoyed it (which I'm pretty sure she didn't), doesn't mean that the sex was okay. It's child prostitution and rape of a minor,(if have sex with anyone under the age of 18 and you're over the age of 18, it's automatically rape) and it can also be endangering the well fare of a minor, and selling a minor. Because she was taken while the child was in her older sister's care, it can be charged as kidnapping (which I'm pretty sure it will be).
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Just because a parent doesn't discuss it doesn't mean it makes a child active or they know what it is. ._.
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Yes, I know this. I'm not saying this for everyone, but my parents have discussed sex with me at a young age. They discussed prostitution, whores, the whole bit. They explained it all to me clearly. If the parents didn't do that with their child, then how could the child possibly know? I did say that I wasn't sure if they did or not, and I agree that the 15 year old might just be that cruel to sell her sister and know ALL about sex... but thinking about it from another view, maybe the parents didn't explain all there is to know to the 15 year old and so she didn't exactly know what she was doing. I am not at all sticking up for the girl, but saying that SOMETIMES in these cases the parents can be to blame, especially if they didn't have a watchfull eye on their daughter. Read my other post explaining what I ment about the 7 year old "liking it" and you'll see what I ment by what I said.
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04-19-2010, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Alixness
Yes, I know this. I'm not saying this for everyone, but my parents have discussed sex with me at a young age. They discussed prostitution, whores, the whole bit. They explained it all to me clearly. If the parents didn't do that with their child, then how could the child possibly know? I did say that I wasn't sure if they did or not, and I agree that the 15 year old might just be that cruel to sell her sister and know ALL about sex... but thinking about it from another view, maybe the parents didn't explain all there is to know to the 15 year old and so she didn't exactly know what she was doing. I am not at all sticking up for the girl, but saying that SOMETIMES in these cases the parents can be to blame, especially if they didn't have a watchfull eye on their daughter. Read my other post explaining what I ment about the 7 year old "liking it" and you'll see what I ment by what I said.
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Remember that the sister had sex with paying people first, then she sold her sister. She also proceeded to put her sister outside and go back in to have sex with the men. And no where in the articles does it say that she didn't know what she was doing. I guess we'll have to wait until the case starts to see if she'll say that she didn't know what she was doing.
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04-19-2010, 09:01 PM
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Remember that the sister had sex with paying people first, then she sold her sister. She also proceeded to put her sister outside and go back in to have sex with the men. And no where in the articles does it say that she didn't know what she was doing. I guess we'll have to wait until the case starts to see if she'll say that she didn't know what she was doing.
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Yes, I was just throwing options out there.
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04-19-2010, 09:10 PM
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Yes, I was just throwing options out there.
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Okay it just wasn't very clear to me lol. ^^;
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04-19-2010, 09:15 PM
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Okay it just wasn't very clear to me lol. ^^;
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LOL (: No harm, my friend.
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04-19-2010, 09:20 PM
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LOL (: No harm, my friend.
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Alrighty ^^
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04-23-2010, 10:24 PM
Yeah; she should have been charged as an adult. She obviously knew what she was doing. How sick people are..they will do anything for money.
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LilAnimeEarth
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04-24-2010, 09:43 PM
This is sick for a 15-year-old to do. Of course she's supposed to know better. She probably was a stepsister. This 15-year-old should be in prison until she knows better.
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Jymphoni
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04-25-2010, 06:13 PM
If she's 15, obviously she/he is in school by now. And I do recall studying a little slavery in school when I was 15 (actually, when I was 12, but hey, I knew when I was 15.) so they must know better.
In my opinion the only way this child couldn't have known better at 15, is if she had a learning disability.
I think this person should be punished as an adult. And who ever bought her sister too. (Obviously)
I don't really have much more to say on this topic. But how on earth would a fifteen-year-old girl sell his/her own sister, with out their parents finding out somehow?
I doubt another person around her age would be calling for more information on the sale of the sister, so wouldn't his/her parents question 20+ people calling for their 15 year old child?
I know my mom would.
LilAnimeEarth; Considering when she knows better is determined by an age, when it comes to law, that wouldn't be too long.
In my opinion this girl should be in jail for life.
Kid or not, she should have known better.
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