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09-04-2011, 12:06 AM
Yeh that was like my compaq lol.
Yep, ahh well that's cool. -nods-
Agreed. Well i'm impulsive like that, i don't have time to mess around lol.
Im almost finished my questys i just need npc items now. But with one particular npc not being around much, i dunno how we're gonna get em lol.
Yeh but the new items seem to just be going up not deflating like the older items.
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09-04-2011, 12:23 AM
Lol
The most I'll pay is 6-7k, if even that~
Haha Lucky!
I need NPC items, Auctioneer items, and 2007 EIs - I think maybe a few random EIs as well, but not sure anymore lol
No idea - it's crazy though - they need to come out with a better system instead of trying to make them ridiculously priced and rare. I mean seriously - make them abundant, to a degree, like the Sugar Cookies and Flowers, ya know?
That's because there will be like, one seller in there at a time and so they'll inflate it like crazy because hey - if they're the only one selling then people are going to have to pay that price or not get it because there aren't any others for sale, ya know?
No competition. And if there is competition, it's going to be within a few gold because no one is going to want to get less than they can for it.
It seriously sucks though when you even see Mods with new items up for sale at like, 10-15k right off the bat. That right there just makes the inflation worse and encourages it, ya know?
It's even worse when they're also putting that months items up for like, 2k :/
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09-04-2011, 02:23 AM
Yeah im starting to think this is bs. I just paid 30k for the two cape things and those wings. Ridiculous. Considering, they're remakes of CIs. So sad right now... :( Lol
Cool, cool. Yeah NPC and Auctioneer items - pretty hard to get your hands on em, unless you got the gold to dish out.
Yeah that's true. 2k a piece, that's reasonable i think. They were 2-2.5k for a very very long time (a set). So it's about time they're 4k a set now. I just wish the older items weren't deflating so much. I got a bunch of cookies i need to get rid of now xDDD.
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09-04-2011, 06:28 AM
Auctioneer items are generally harder to get when they first come out. Then, after the excitement, they go down in price and bid wars hardly happen as often as the month nears at the end.
*Got a couple scythes for 1k awhile ago.* > w<; You just have to be persistent. @__@
Also, I do not mind the new CIs being 2.5k. Why? Because when I donate, I feel like I can get more for the donation I make. I've donated more these past couple of months than I have when they were only worth 1k. Selfish, yes, but it does encourage questers to donate.
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09-04-2011, 06:34 AM
Krissy ~~ so the autioneer items will be available the whole month?
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09-04-2011, 06:48 AM
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Krissy ~~ so the autioneer items will be available the whole month?
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Generally, yes. I believe the Obsidian items are going to be here till sometime in October, also.
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09-04-2011, 06:53 AM
I know right?
Doesn't it just make you mad when you have to spend inflation on new items, but you can't even get close to that price for the older items??
Or unless you're willing to spend buckoo bucks, and I'm not lol
Really?
I actually think that's a deflated price lol
My point was simply that people are selling Auctioneer items for like 10-15k while the new months items are like 2.5k - and now event items cost 3k a piece, which is ridiculous lol
The economy is just backwards, and in the worst ways :(
@Krissy: The lowest I've seen the scythes go for is 7-8k o.O;
You're lucky to have gotten them so cheap - it's rare lol
o.O;
I've never sold CIs for as low as 1k
I don't get into the bidding wars, where people put their items up for sale for lower than what's the normal market just so they can get their items sold faster lol
Plus, 2.5k is pretty cheap in comparison to how this economy has changed. The marketplace pretty much backfired this economy and it's pretty much on it's way to being like Gaia's now, which really isn't surprising~
The balance is just completely tipped and it's hard for people to make money because if they want to sell old items, they're going to get a 1/3 of what they paid/what they're worth, and unless they get the new items cheap in auctions, they're looking at 10-15k a pop for new auctioneer items, and now it's looking at thousands of dollars a pop to get Event Items during the event. And on top of it, new monthly CI prices aren't reflecting it so unless you donate a lot of money a month (like, $20 or more), you're really not going to make a lot on CIs to even compensate or attempt to get the other new auctioneer items~
And I'm sorry - but for recolors of MCs?
I'm not paying 10-15k a piece for them. If they were completely different and new items? I may be more willing - but recolors? Come on. They should be making those extras for when you donate like they did with the Golden Faun Horns, not as auction items that no one can afford :/
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09-04-2011, 07:11 AM
@Krissy - Hmm i might do that thanks for letting me know, coz what i spent on those items today is just unbelievable lol.
Yeah that's true. Plus anyway they were due to inflate sometime, they were 2k a set for so long. I still get em for 2k a set, but that's coz my supplier is so awesome lol.
@Hummy - Hello :P
@Emma - Yeah xDD
Yeah i guess im impatient and stupid then? LOL
Hmm yeah that's true.
HMM what should i sell next...
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09-04-2011, 07:12 AM
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@Krissy: The lowest I've seen the scythes go for is 7-8k o.O;
You're lucky to have gotten them so cheap - it's rare lol
o.O;
I've never sold CIs for as low as 1k
I don't get into the bidding wars, where people put their items up for sale for lower than what's the normal market just so they can get their items sold faster lol
Plus, 2.5k is pretty cheap in comparison to how this economy has changed. The marketplace pretty much backfired this economy and it's pretty much on it's way to being like Gaia's now, which really isn't surprising~
The balance is just completely tipped and it's hard for people to make money because if they want to sell old items, they're going to get a 1/3 of what they paid/what they're worth, and unless they get the new items cheap in auctions, they're looking at 10-15k a pop for new auctioneer items, and now it's looking at thousands of dollars a pop to get Event Items during the event. And on top of it, new monthly CI prices aren't reflecting it so unless you donate a lot of money a month (like, $20 or more), you're really not going to make a lot on CIs to even compensate or attempt to get the other new auctioneer items~
And I'm sorry - but for recolors of MCs?
I'm not paying 10-15k a piece for them. If they were completely different and new items? I may be more willing - but recolors? Come on. They should be making those extras for when you donate like they did with the Golden Faun Horns, not as auction items that no one can afford :/
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The average buy price for those items aren't really something to go off on. Really, it's just the average of the lowest buy price + highest. When it comes to auctioneer items, you either buy high or buy low. D: This is why I think there should be listing for how much a recent item sells for, mainly because the average buy price isn't always accurate.
As for CIs going for 1k each even less, take a gander through my exchange thread. People were offering 250 gold for a glacial circlet. xD That was in 2008. I took periodic breaks from then and now, mind you. I do recall some new CIs going for 500 and 1000 gold at one point, but meh.
Oh, for some reason I thought I paid 9k for my crown back in 2007, guess it was really 3-4k, haha. Aaaah, sorry, going through my thread to find sales of ye' olden days. xD
Anyhow...
I really don't see it backfiring on people who actually want the items, truth be told. For people who have them, yes, I can see it as such. But I can say this for a fact; new members do not want to go through extreme lengths to catch up on items that were released in the past. So with older items deflated, I think it encourages new users to join because they do not have to strain themselves as much. It's a double edge blade, but at the same time, the MP encourages more people to sell items that wouldn't have sold them in the Exchange. I think there are more older items than people first realized and I think that's why items deflated.
The recolors are more of a gold sink, imo. Really, I'd be more upset if they were to sell the recolors as another CI. But Mene lost money when people got free items for donating a set amount, remember? Because people didn't want to donate just in case there was a free item for the later CIs. :[
@ Roachi: I made the mistake of buying gems for 8k and then as soon as I did that, they were going for 3-4k a few days later. D8 I was so pissed...
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09-04-2011, 07:20 AM
Ahh yeah i'm kicking myself now lol.
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09-04-2011, 07:22 AM
It happens. :/ People pay soooo much at the beginning. x__x It always happens with those Auctioneer items.
I believe I got the Wicked Grin for 100g because other Auctioneer items (the slippers) were released. xD; I sold it, though. I don't like the item...
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09-04-2011, 07:29 AM
Yeah i gotta remember not to be impatient. Yeah i think i got those items for way over what they're going for now lol.
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09-04-2011, 07:31 AM
I'm sorry. D: Well, we live and learn. Patience, especially on Mene, is very important. I learned that the hard way. Then again, I halfway think that I paid 8k for one gem just because the other person bidding was pissing me off. xD;;
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09-04-2011, 07:35 AM
@Krissy: I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree - really don't feel like debating this morning XD;
I will note though - I didn't mean the average price as in what's listed in the MP - I know very well that that's inaccurate lol
I meant average as in what it's usually being sold for/listed as :P
I will also note that I know that back when I first started (in 2008) - yes, CIs were quite cheap in comparison to now - however, the economy changed, the worth of gold changed, etc. So it's only natural that the items increased in price as the economy changed - I was simply saying that I haven't sold new CIs for 1k in a very long time - basically never anymore. Yeah, when I first started I did - because that was the normal price for them - but now it's not the normal price and it's quite dirt cheap for them lol
Basically the price of items that aren't overly wanted lol
But I've never sold a CI for less than 2-3k in the past couple of years lol
Not that I remember anyway :P
Just my opinions - but sooo not debating them this morning XD;
And no - I don't keep up with Menewsha's profits and losses in regards to MCs lol
I'm just saying that to have recolors of MC parts as Auctioneer items, and for those inflated prices, is ridiculous lol
I'm not paying that much for simple recolors - if it were new items, it might be different - but I'm not spending a fortune on recolors :P
@Roachi: LOL Or just auction-crazy ;P
No clue haha
I've just been kind of letting my items sit in my inventory if they don't sell lately lol
Don't have time to put them back up!!
I wish we could do them all at once - so much faster XD;
Then again, I'm just lazy and don't feel like taking the time to put them up :P
On a side note - it looks like we're getting the store front!
At least things are looking really good, anyways :3
Just trying to figure out a good figure for rent every month (utilities included) - and it's looking to be about $700-ish - so that's not bad - a hell of a lot less than we were expecting - so things are looking up to some degree!
Now I just have to make it until Saturday and try not to go crazy until then xD;
(Dad's driving me up the wall to the EXTREME - seriously wish he'd just leave and visit his family for a week - would be so much more peaceful and so much more happy around here if he were gone. JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE STORE OPENS AND PICKS UP!!)
Got out of the house today, though, so that was a plus - other than he kept calling and being a jerk and pissing us off, but ya know >.>
At least Saturday he can't harass us - I'll keep my phone on silent LOL
(We're going to the theater with my family downstate and then having dinner/ice-cream after)
Seriously can't wait to see Broadway's The Lion King!!
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09-04-2011, 07:42 AM
I wasn't trying to debate, it was just more of an input from a user who lurks and is questing quite a few older items. I actually think I sold some CIs when I first came back for 1.5k before they suddenly went up. I think that was in May. So it hasn't been too long since the CIs went up. ^^;
The only reason those items are inflated is because people are willing to pay that much for them. You cannot blame Mene for what users are willing to pay for a recolor. :[
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09-04-2011, 07:46 AM
I think we'll just agree to disagree xD;
We have views that conflict and see things much differently :3
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09-04-2011, 07:49 AM
Yeah. To each their own. ^^
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09-04-2011, 07:58 AM
@Krissy - Yeah i paid 10k today for obsedian wings only coz the other person bidding was pissin me off xD. Ahh well, they can just sit nicely in my inventory for awhile lol.
@Emma - I've been selling a lot of my mules inventory, simpy because its been sitting there for far too long. And a lot of it has lost it's value. Which sucks.
Ahh well that's awesome, good luck with that. Argh seriously i think it's a male thing, they're terrible lol. It was my partner and i's anniversary today - 1 year lol. And it's his bday tomorrow.... Gosh he's gonna think i have to spoil him rotten. lol
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Selling stuff now, and a few of my cookies, kinda tired of hoarding em now lol.
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09-04-2011, 08:04 AM
I bet :(
I'm reluctant to sell a lot of my items simply because of that :(
Haha Thanks :P
I've had my wits end of it lol
Haha!
Or he could spoil you because it's your anniversary and then you could spoil him for his birthday :P
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09-04-2011, 08:07 AM
I won't hold my breath emma lol. He's broke at the mo, doesn't have a job.
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09-04-2011, 08:08 AM
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@Krissy - Yeah i paid 10k today for obsedian wings only coz the other person bidding was pissin me off xD. Ahh well, they can just sit nicely in my inventory for awhile lol.
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xD; Yeah... angry bidding isn't always a good thing. My mind set is always thinking evil thoughts when that happens. xD;;
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09-04-2011, 08:16 AM
@Roachi: Damn - well that makes things worse :(
Hope you have a good day none the less!
I'm headed back to bed though :)
Talk to you later!
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09-04-2011, 08:19 AM
@Krissy - LOL me too. Im like die die die!!!! xDDD. Jks., But seriously it can make a person do stupid things lol.
@Emma - Yahh, i wish he'd be more romantic, but i won't hold my breath haha. Alright hunny, nyte nyte <33
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09-04-2011, 08:22 AM
Don't we all wish that about guys? Hahaha
Night hun <3
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09-04-2011, 08:48 AM
Yeppers lol.
Night hun <3
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