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05-03-2013, 05:28 AM
Wolfie gets Deja Vu all the time.Wolfie read somewhere that it happens alot to Geminis,so that kind of explains it.When it happens,it is very strange,different from regular Deja Vu.See,Wolfie has the regular one,but double,as if she has felt that particular Deja Vu before and recognized it as such.Also,Wolfie has "Lucid" Deja Vu.Usually,when Deja Vu happens,it stops when the person realizes it,but Wolfie will have it,realize it,and continue to have it.Wolfie usually rides it out,watching things happen and thinking "Wow,that happened,and so did that.That's exactly the same..." And it will continue for a few minutes before something changes and breaks the feeling.Wolfie has prophetic dreams sometimes,and she thinks that contributes to the feeling often.
So Wolfie wants to know,have you ever had Deja Vu? What was it like? Can you ride it out like Wolfie does? Have you ever had it double,or even triple? What about dreams? Did you ever have Deja Vu in dreams? (Wolfie has.'Twas strange.) Come on over here and tell Wolfie all about it! *Puts on doctors outfit*
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05-03-2013, 05:54 AM
I have had the feeling before (I am not a Gemini). Though whether or not it has been from a past event, or a dream I cannot always tell. Sometimes I have realistic dreams of doing everyday kinds of things, so therefore the Deja Vu might be from the dream. I have had it double before, but I don't remember a specific example of it. I just remember remembering it happened before and that I had a Deja Vu of it before, lol.
I have never paid attention if it seems to continue, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't happen to me. Most of the Deja Vu I have are just a minute or two long anyways.
I don't think I have experienced Deja Vu while I was dreaming though. I have had repeat dreams, that were exactly the same as the last time I dreamt it, not sure if that is counting as the same thing.
My husband had it had an experience of Deja Vu just yesterday when he was driving home.
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05-03-2013, 08:10 AM
Yes.
(watch as I come back later and simply post "yes" again)
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05-03-2013, 09:45 AM
I am not Gemini... but I still get Deja Vu... x.x
Mostly from dreams. I only realize about it when it happen. DX
I still remember my first dajavu, 10 years old, it freaks me out. DX
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05-03-2013, 11:21 AM
I'd heard of Deja vu and didn't believe the sensation was possible until it happened to me the one and only time. I was watching a repeat of Digimon as a teenager and it happened when one of the Digimon characters on the show cries out 'JOOOE!!!' and it was like I could've sworn I'd seen that exact scene just recently or that I'd been in that moment before, because it seemed so familiar.
I'll never forget it because it's only happened that one time.
I think I'd be a bit freaked out if it happened regularly.
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05-03-2013, 01:24 PM
I am used to it now that I have more than ten times of incidents. But mine is never that long, just silly daily life. I hope I can see the winning number... that is more useful.
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05-03-2013, 02:05 PM
I do all the time. I'll be doing something then feel like I've been in that same time and place before then think it's weird and continue on with what I'm doing.
With dreams. I have the same dream over and over again. I think sometimes it's the universe's way of telling you something while other times it's just you over thinking a dream so you have it again. It depends on the situation. It creeps me out when I have a dream and something in real life happens shortly after that has to do with the dream. I have that happen a lot too.
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05-03-2013, 02:34 PM
My dejavu never happen so near between dream and real life... O__O
Even though I know I had the dream before, cannot remember exactly when, but have a vague guideline that it is like few months ago or few years ago's dream.
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05-03-2013, 06:02 PM
I've experienced it too, but it's not what you think it is. Sometimes the human brain creates false memories. That is all deja vu is. Your brain says, "I think I've seen this before," when you haven't. Also, if you have a dream that comes true, it is either a false memory (you only think you dreamed it, but you never really did), or it is a coincedence. It does not mean that you are psychic.
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05-03-2013, 06:27 PM
That sounds scary if it is just false memories...
Now I am beginning to worry that my memories' being genuine or not. O_O
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05-03-2013, 07:47 PM
Haha, I wouldn't worry too much! This level of malfunction happens to pretty much everybody, and it probably won't cause too large a negative effect on your daily life. Most of the time, you should be able to trust yourself, haha!
Though I agree that memory errors and memory loss can be quite scary. I rely very heavily on my brain, so I would be absolutely devastated if I got some sort of neural disease.
On a similar note, did you know that your memories are actually altered when you retrieve them from long-term storage? It happens because the memory is actually re-stored when your brain is done using it. Again, this process doesn't usually have a large effect on the memory, but by recollecting an old memory in a certain context, you might accidentally insert some of the present context into the memory! For instance, if I am remembering a time I went to the beach with some friends while I am also thinking about a different friend who wasn't there, it is possible that I will accidentally restore the memory as if that person was there! That is probably a more extreme case than what usually happens though. And of course, this doesn't mean that your memories are safer if you don't recall them either, because recalling them, while it may change them, also strengthens them so that they are harder to forget. Memories you don't use are more susceptible to decay.
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05-03-2013, 07:51 PM
It kinds of sounds like... hallucination.
The way how the false memories were insert.
How to differentiate the difference then? T__T
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05-03-2013, 08:20 PM
It is a bit like hallucinating.
And I'm not sure if you can really tell the difference yourself, since the old memory would be overwritten entirely. In a case like the one I described, you could ask someone else to recall their memory of the same event and then compare it to yours. Any discrepancies would then suggest that one of you has experienced a memory error. As for who is right, you would have to consult a third person to recall the event as they remember it and compare their memory to both of yours. If two of the people agree, the other person is probably wrong.
You don't always have two people sharing all of your experiences though, so the best you can do is just hope that the way you remember it is the right way, and if it's not, that it won't make a huge impact on your life.
Or you can document everything you don't want to forget through journaling, photographs, etc. It's still not perfect, but it is something concrete unlike human memory which is always changing.
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05-03-2013, 08:42 PM
wow... cross reference with unreliable second or third party brains? XD
I think I would have trouble in my golden years to remember what happen in my childhood days... My family is not use to taking photos nor do I have the habit of keeping diary. dang...
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05-04-2013, 04:08 AM
Well,this topic changed rather quickly.Wolfie was not asking about how the human brain works,only about other people's experiences with Deja Vu.
Although Vox's descriptions certainly explain why Wolfie has memories of things that no one else remembers,or why she has almost no memory of her childhood.
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05-05-2013, 11:58 AM
It is closely related~
I am pretty sure the deja vu I had are all from dreams. Not JUST the feeling of... I had seen/been it before.
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05-05-2013, 09:20 PM
@xuvrette: Hey, three heads are better than one! Even though they are not always reliable, you are more likely to get an accurate account of an event if you ask more people.
You can think about it statistically. Suppose, just as an example, that the probability of remembering something is 0.5 (a fifty-fifty shot whether you'll remember or not, just like a coin toss). Then if one person is asked (call them person A), the probability they remember correctly is 0.5. Now suppose you ask two people (person A and B). There are four possibilities: both people remember, person A remembers but person B doesn't, person B remembers but A doesn't, and neither remember. They all have equal probability out of 1.0, so the probability of each is 0.25. Then the probability of at least one of them remembering correctly, which would be the added probabilities of person A remembering and not B, person B remembering and not A, and both remembering, is equal to 0.75. If you ask three people and carry this out, the probably that at least one of them remembers correctly is 1.0 - 0.125 = 0.875. The probability will increase as you ask more people. In my example, I used 0.5 as the probability for accurate memory, but this effect will occur for any probability greater than 0 and less than 1.
tldr; more data = more accurate results!
Yeah, unfortunately, I have few memories of my childhood. You and I were born at the very beginning of a digital age, so the technology that many parents now abuse to document their children's lives wasn't as readily available for us. I didn't have a digital camera until I was thirteen.
@Wolf: Sorry about that! I tend to take the scientific approach to things even when not directly asked to. I don't mean to get off-topic.
That is pretty interesting though. It is entirely possible that you have a memory storage and/or retrieval problem. Perhaps your brain stores things in a very disorganized way so that when you attempt to retrieve them, you either can't find them or you end up retrieving something unrelated that it was incorrectly stored with to give the effect of a false memory? I'm not sure. Nobody is really sure how it all works.
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05-06-2013, 05:00 AM
I... forgot how to do probability.
Should it be the less it is the more probable it become?
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05-07-2013, 03:29 AM
@Vox Yeah,Wolfie forgets more and more of her childhood by the year.Most of her memories are more like blurry polaroids taken by someone else.Wolfie can't even be sure which are real memories and which are dreams or false memories.Wolfie tries to think back on her childhood and remembers...nothing.Well,Wolfie knows things,like that she lived in a certain building when she was little,and if she reaches back hard enough,she can almost remember what her room looked like.But the "memory" is more like a fact that someone told her,like watching a movie flashback belonging to someone else entirely.Wolfie knows she had a certain stufed animal,but she doesn't remember playing with it.Memories don't move,there's no sound or smell...mostly only flashes of color and static.Like Wolfie said before,blurry polaroids.Even short term memory is like that.For instance,just this morning Wolfie woke up while her siblings were getting ready for school.She remembers,vaguely,hearing her dad asking someone if they had their backpack.Then,when Wolfie woke up just a few hours later,she saw the memory as if it happened a lifetime ago,or even not at all.Wolfie remembers eating dinner,but it's all disjointed and frozen...it's hard to describe.Already it's like the memory happened to someone else,even though it was only a few hours ago.Nothing cements into Wolfie's mind like it should...nothing beyond the present moment seems real at all...
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