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#51
Old 12-21-2008, 09:38 PM

It depends on the situation, of course. i also think it changes with their strengths. if they're going to get severely hurt, then no. If it's the best way to solve the situation (although I believe that's rarely.) then yes. I don't believe in hitting anyone anyways, male OR female.

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#52
Old 12-22-2008, 11:18 PM

Maybe so. I can understand the biologically weaker aspect. Like being a larger person not picking on a smaller person. Thing is if the smaller person or female person hits you first as the larger person or male person, I dunno. If they expect that person not to fight back due to honor, that's a rather underhanded thing to do. Maybe if the female person or smaller person doesn't want a larger or male person to hit them, they shouldn't hit them first without expecting retallition so?.

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#53
Old 12-23-2008, 10:36 PM

I believe that men should never hit a women, in the sense of physical abuse.
However, there are so many women out there who are either feminists or believe strongly in equal rights/opportunities for both genders. So, going along with that line of thinking, there's no reason a guy can't hit a girl if the girl first hit him. And the people I'm talking about here are like teenagers in school. If a girl provokes a guy by hitting him, thinking he won't retaliate just because she's a girl, then her way of thinking is wrong. If she doesn't want to get hit back, then she shouldn't have hit the guy first for no reason. Whenever I hit/smack my guy friends, I expect for some sort of retaliation. But then again, there are some traditional guys who will never hit a girl back because they were brought up like that.

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#54
Old 01-04-2009, 04:14 AM

If you're playing around, fine, but she thinks they each should know the limit. This one hits(bites mostly) her guy friends sometimes but it doesn't hurt them and she was trying to. She just likes wrestling with guys.

If it's seriously fighting that's different. Avoid it if you can no matter what gender you are. There's no reason to hit a person unless it's self defense. If your life is not on the line then get over it. If it is, beat the living Hell out of the other person. :)

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#55
Old 01-04-2009, 05:30 AM

I personally don't think it is right to hit a girl.

I am a strong girl, and there are a lot of guys that are scared of me, but I still don't think it's right.

It's the sad truth, but men are naturally stronger than women. It's how we are built. And it doesn't take much from them to really hurt us. If we smack its not going to do much damage but sting. If they slap us, then they could very well knock us off our feet.

Also, its been pretty obvious to me that a lot of guys lose control when they are mad and probably would be less willing to lessen their blow not to really hurt the girl.


I really can't stand the guys that actually do hit girls and hurt them. I have a "friend" (don't really care for him much, but he's a friend of friends) who has taken karate and has three older brothers that all have taken karate and are in the military that have grown up beating on him. And he uses the "I treat girls as equals" excuse to hurt girls too.

I mean, it's one thing to just joke around, but he has really hurt me before. If you joke around with him and maybe push him in the arm or give him a little punch, then he'll like twist your arm around and do all this stuff and it can really hurt. And even if you tell him to stop, he wont. You have to basically say "GET THE HELL OFF NOW! YOU ARE REALLY HURTING ME!"


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Also, I do think it's okay to hit a girl if you're just joking around with one another. I mean, there is no harm in two friends beating up on each other, because they're not really hurting one another but just doing it to mess around.

And I think a guy has the right to get a bit rougher with the girl if she freaking BITES him. I mean really, girls. Keep your damn mouths to yourself. It can really hurt when you bite people and most guys won't hurt you for it, but it doesn't mean you didnt' hurt them like hell. It's not funny; it's just cruel. Not to mention that no one wants your slobber on them. So knock it off, please!

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#56
Old 01-04-2009, 05:35 PM

My opinion: Stupid double standard. If I hit a guy out of anger (never actually have, mind you) I will expect him to retaliate. If he doesn't, then I win. I walk away. Over. If he does hit back, then I have a choice. I can hit again or I can walk away, this time as a loser, not a winner. Women have the advantage in any civil confrontation with a man. It is seen as socially unacceptable to hit a woman, even if she hits you first. Women, however, usually fight men with words. They are not afraid to dredge up the most painful of memories in order to deal a blow at the ego. If a man did this to another man, he would get punched in the face. If a woman does this the man has to take it. That's not fair. The woman probably could not win one on one combat (there are exceptions) because women are physically weaker than men. It's a biological fact. It's the way we are built. However, a man should not have to sit there and suffer verbal, or physical, abuse from a woman just because they are weaker than he is. If it's going to shut her up or make her stop, slap her across the face. Women have high pain tolerance (childbirth o.o) and one little slap isn't going to do any lasting damage. As long as you don't do any serious damage, I see no problem with defending yourself.

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#57
Old 01-08-2009, 10:40 PM

If a woman starts the fight she better plan on finishing it. She should not hide behind "I'm just a girl."
In that simple statement she contradicts herself. "Girls" are not suppost to hit others.
I'm a girl and if some guy made me so mad that I hit him then I would expect to be hit back. So I don't go around hitting others.
Gender should not matter. Haven't women been fighting to be "equal"?

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#58
Old 01-09-2009, 01:14 AM

Exactly. If women want to be equal to men, then they can't hide behind a standard of physical inferiority to avoid being hit. If they started it, they deserve it.

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#59
Old 01-09-2009, 01:17 AM

I treat women the same way I treat men.
I don't see why they should be treated any different?

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#60
Old 01-09-2009, 02:13 AM

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This is just my opinion....

If a woman hits a man FIRST.... then he has every right to hit her back. By hitting him she's saying "I'm tougher than other women and I think I can take you. If I hit you I give you full rights to try to hit me back because an assult is just that... regardless of what gender it comes from." I honestly think it's an unfair standard for men to just be expected to take abuse from the opposite gender because we're "weaker". That all depends on who you are anyway. I know PLENTY of women who could beat up some of my male friends. *shruggs* Whoever hits first is inviting open war. I'm a pacifist so I tend to look down on people who throw the first punch anyway.... regardless of what sex they are.
That's exactly how I feel, too. :yes:

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#61
Old 01-10-2009, 02:24 PM

I think if a woman is saying "You're going to hit a girl?" and she's a feminist, she's given up any rights of "special treatment". Equal rights means exactly that, treat everyone equally. I will playfully hit my friends sometimes, but never a real knock-out drag-down fight. I'm just not into that. My brother used to beat me up all the time as a kid. (Not literally beating, but he always wanted to get me in a headlock and do that whole noogie bit. Made my scalp sore.)
Equal rights? Expect equal treatment, on everything. It's only fair.

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#62
Old 01-11-2009, 03:56 AM

Women are trying to get all these equal rights for jobs and education and salaries etc etc, but when it comes to taking out the trash or taking a blow for being an ass, they want the vagina back.

My fiance told me about a time he was sent to the principal's office for cursing a girl out after she slapped him. He didn't strike her, but only reacted to her violent action. She didn't even cower at what he might do because she knew he wasn't allowed to hurt her back.

He said after he saw her later, he sent her a look and a threatening message that discouraged her from ever doing that again, and I see nothing wrong with it. If you're going to hit someone, be prepared for the consequences. If I hit someone and it's harder than I expected, I either duck or run. I hate fights.

I'm more opposed to those old feminist movements than for them. My main desire in life is to raise a family, be a good wife to a good husband, and a great mother to growing children. The whole education perk is nice, but I really wanted to take that Home Economics class. I wanted to major in culinary art just to be able to learn how to cook, but I didn't want to work in a restaurant, so my parents suggested I take journalism so that I can be the next Katie Couric. Whooppeeee. :sarcasm:

Family and child upbringing is a bit more important to me.
I like that I have the right to do all these other things women once were not allowed to do, but I don't want to have to be forced by my feminist sisters to partake in them. That's why I want my husband to be the one to take out the trash, do the lawn work, make the money, while I take care of the inside of the house. I liked the idea of being the one to hold the family together and create a haven in my family's hectic lives. Man does the physically hard stuff (including taking a beating), while I was protected on the inside getting bandages ready.

You know what? I think I'm rambling on about a slightly different subject.

Main point: If women want it equal (like I don't), they should take it all as equal. Otherwise, stick with me and keep your fists down.

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#63
Old 01-11-2009, 04:24 AM

Personally I think guys shouldnt hit girls and vice versa but if the girl is man enough to hit the guy she's man enough to take a hit back, especially in self defense.

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#64
Old 01-11-2009, 06:45 AM

It's chivalrous and polite not to hit a woman, or anyone in that fact. Women aren't supposed to act in a manner that would need to be punished such, but that's not always the case, so it may be hard for the man at times. To refrain from such an unsightly act would win you respect and strengthen your character. It's hard to imagine how attractive the person is who says no ill about others, to their face or behind them. Not to hit a lady is a test and show of character. Though, a man must not only endure ladies, but other men and ladies must also endure other ladies and aggressive men.

Personally however, being a woman myself, if I hit a man for any other reason than self defense, I'd see no right reason for him not to strike back(given it's not bone crushing -- I'm 115 lbs. I'm not going to be able to hurt many people, so there'd be no reason to strike me hard). If I were a man and a lady slapped me in a sassy manner, I'd probably pop her back, little harder than she hit me at most unless I thought she was going to try and fight me. In my opinion women shouldn't be able to walk over men like that, nor vice versa. Of course, a respectable gentleman(or lady) would take the hit. To retaliate and start a fight wouldn't make either party attractive in any sort.

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#65
Old 01-12-2009, 04:08 PM

I think this is an issue that depends on the situation. I honestly don't think it's okay for anyone to hit anyone else, unless it's play fighting, then it's fun. But I do think that men should be able to hit women if it's a means of SELF DEFENSE. I don't think it's okay for men to hit women just because "the bitch said something that the man didn't like"... as is what usually ends up happening.

But then again, violence isn't the answer, it's the solution... right?

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#66
Old 01-12-2009, 10:44 PM

This is of course, would start with the issue of not only being physically more powerful, but also domestic violence. It is not only sexist to a girl saying she is weak, but just goes to show how sexist a man could be to think he needs to hit a girl to be in control. A lot of people, especially women and girls, don't like that because they have experienced being abused b a guy, and it isn't fair. Drunk or not, the man has to be dominant and in control, which turns out very unhealthy for the woman/girl. Even boys can get hit, and that is also a threat. Women can be abusive too to their family, especially children, which is when i believe children have a right to fight back, regardless of gender. For me, it is about age and sex. At some point though, guys may have to fight back, when a girl becomes a real threat. It's ok if the girl confronts the guy, but not when the guy confronts the girl (eg, advances and invades spcae out of anger). It is best though, when someone else intervenes.

I really don't think a guy shouldn't feel any doubt about striking a girl though, but that doesn't mean never. It's about offense and defense.

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#67
Old 02-16-2009, 10:53 PM

I dont think the a women should hit a man, and a man shouldn't hit a women to begin with. I mean men are stronger then women i suppose >.> but i see it as, if i hit a man, then i expect to be hit back, just because im a girl, i shouldnt be able to get away with it.

i see it as if a girl wants to punch a guy, then they should expect something back.

but over all, people shouldn't hit each other. I think that men shouldn't hit women, BUT for me, if i hit a guy, i expect something back.

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#68
Old 02-18-2009, 04:21 AM

You know, I absolutely hate that mindset. I have heard/read men say they would refuse to hit a woman, even if she was attacking him. Not me, boy howdy. You hit me, you're just asking for a fight. I don't agree with violence, as a general rule, but I disagree less with standing there and taking abuse. You hear about women abusing men less often than the other way around, because the general idea of our society is that women need to be protected, and men have to be macho and stick up for themselves. That's bull. Women should learn to protect themselves (and many do), and men need to drop the idea that women are the "weaker" sex. Biologically, yes, typically a woman has less body mass than men. However, this does not make them incapable of protecting themselves, of standing up through a fight, or of releasing them of responsibility or retalliation from actions of violence they initiate. If a woman hits a man, she should be prepared to be hit back, and he should not just let her do it because she's a woman.

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#69
Old 02-19-2009, 01:06 AM

i guess people saw women as weaker than men so they see men hitting women as a bad thing.
it is even a law in my country that men should not hit women or something @__@

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#70
Old 02-19-2009, 01:26 AM

This totally resonates the whole Chris Brown & Rihanna fiasco going on right now =O
Anyways, as I girl, I do feel like men shouldn't hit women on the fact that men are biologically stronger than women in terms of strength. I'm not saying all women are weaker (are that it should be the norm) but it just appears that that's the way it is.

It's also what's expected from our society - that men should act courteous and respectful towards women. It's ironic (and appalling) however that several other societies who view women as mere objects do consider it a normal thing for husbands/brothers/fathers/male acquantances to beat their women counterparts if they got out of line.

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#71
Old 02-20-2009, 05:12 AM

I think it's wrong for a guy to hit a girl... but if a girl hits a guy... gender doesn't count.

Now... if a guy hits a girl first, it depends on if the girl is capable of defending herself. I mean if she's a black belt... it's fair right?

But, if a guy (since they are normally stronger) hit a girl whom I knew was incapable of defending themselves, I'd figure it's wrong. This also goes for guys incapable of defending themselves vs. a girl who knows how to fight.

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#72
Old 03-03-2009, 03:52 AM

The only time I would say it is appropriate is if defending yourself, and I'm not talking about she punched you in the arm so you slapped her. I'm talking about "Oh my god she has a knife!" Otherwise I say it is completely wrong to hit a woman. I myself have seen it quite a few times in my life and you know what every time I saw it no matter how strong or tough the woman was, she couldn't take it. And it isn't anything about a woman being a weaker sex, I think its more about shock or something, I don't know really but its wrong. It is sad, wrong, and sickening. And I might bother some people by it but it changes things when that happens. So I would say a man cannot hit a woman unless it is defending yourself from receiving a life threatening injury.

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#73
Old 03-03-2009, 01:34 PM

That's almost laughable, in reality. If anybody hits anybody else, they should be prepared to be hit back. Would it be okay to say "If that guy only hit me, I wouldn't retaliate because he's Asian?" No, it wouldn't, so why is it any less wrong to do it to women?

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#74
Old 03-08-2009, 10:39 PM

People shouldn't hitting anyone regardless of gender.

Someone calls you a name and you don't like it? Walk away; I strongly urge this if you have anger problems.

Someone hits you and you don't like it? Get authorities involved or if you are going to fight back, it's not necessary to beat someone so badly that they're near-death.

My over all thoughts on defending yourself: defense should never cross into offense unless you truly believe that your life is in danger.

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#75
Old 03-08-2009, 10:47 PM

If a girl starts smacking a guy, he has full rights to hit her back. Seriously.
The womens should know that men are, by nature, bigger and stronger. It's just logical not to pick a fight with someone larger than you, and if she gets seriously injured then it's her own damn fault.

I playfully slap my boyfriend probably more often than I should. And it's perfectly fine for him to playfully slap me back. Sometimes I deserve it. xD;

 



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