Ahhh, one of those. Additionally, I would like to agree with you that Superman is a dick, of Ken Doll like levels.

My point was to say that he shows no regard for the feelings of others. He treats Jimmy like he's a servant and threatens to disown him on a regular basis. And any time Lois gets turned into a... gorilla or a baby or something, what does he do? Runs straight to Lana. Lois Lane's spinoff series was just an excuse for her to look like a bitch when she discovers him cheating on her because of 'wacky hijinks.' And he's not even like... torn about it.

That's a very fair observation. I've personally just never liked him, since youngster days, so I honestly hadn't kept up on it enough to know all that. But now, knowing that, I agree all the more.

I was never really into him, either. He just seemed to overpowered. Like... they would make up powers for him to have JUST to fit the situation. Like Superweaving. He has that. >____>

Its one of the reasons I stick with indy publishers. There's a broader spectrum of work.

Agreed. As far as the main stream supers though, I always kinda preferred batman anyway. Regular ass rich dude who can afford the cool toys and luxurious enough life to be a superhero, so he goes and does it to try to do some good in the world, but still ends up hated and keeps doing it anyways. Plus he just got a way cooler outfit and superman.

I do like Batman. Its really hard to hate Batman when you see how AWESOME the gritty reboots have been. Though, Batman wasn't always as cool as he is today. In the old-as-dirt incarnations, he was about up there with Superman, but a non-alien foil.

Yeah, sadly that is true. I was fortunate (unfortunate perhaps? depending on how you look at it) enough to not really get into most comics and super hero's and such until I was already 16 or so, and old enough to have a deeper appreciation for the eclectic and unique, so with his limited blipping on my radar due to his popularity, I only got bits and pieces, mostly what was handed to me by other, more super hero savvy friends. They made a pretty great cheese filter. Honestly, the first real comic-esq thing I read was 30 days of night, before there was even talk of it becoming that terrible movie. I loved it for it's intensely dark and gritty style.

First comic book I read was a Chick Tract. >>

Explains a LOT about my stance on religion.

Chick tract? *goes to google*

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Whoah! Upon googlign the first thing I came up with had a cthulhu in it... AHH! It's speaking to me! *hides*

http://www.snarkbate.com/images/CthulhuChickTract.gif

Oh, niiiiize....

A Chick Tract is a comic book written and drawn by Jack Chick: a devout Christian whose belief in The Word is... optimistic at worst. He believes that simply quoting scripture can make someone change their ways. He attacks homosexuals, pagans, catholics, and (famously) those who play Dungeons and Dragons.

Wow... that's quite the list of enemies to be battling. Seriously? The D&D kids? Whaaaaaa??? What are they doing to hurt anyone? *hides her white wolf books back in her brief case*

D&D apparently is a gateway drug to worshiping satan.

Here's the famous one: Dark Dungeons

HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! WOW! That was great :-p

I love christian propaganda. It's so entertaining :-p

So does that mean that satan went from wanting rock stars to wanting middle aged virgins living in their moms basements.

Intreasting

Hey hey hey now, not all table top roll players are like that *re-hides the white wolf books in her back pack*

I happen to live independently, am successfully (I think) raising my little one more or less on my own, and have a very ample healthy sex life :-p lol

lol I see but you must remember you have been one of the luck few born with a certain mutation~whips out fancy charts and pointer and points to DNA strand~seen here this has allowed you to evolve from your genetic Nerd cousins~flips chart and slaps pointer on to a picture of a stereotypical nerd~seen here in its natural habitat.

As someone who uses D&D methods in writing as well as sitting in on D20 sessions, I can safely say that I do not fit the stereotype. I am not middle-aged, not a virgin, and live on the fourth floor on my apartment building: quite far from my mother's basement.

Another fun one that is offensive to my people: Crazy Wolf

Wow... That one really is pretty offensive to native american culture. It's one thing to try to turn people to your religion, but seriously? That's just bad.

A lot of Native American philosophies are of the nature that the Gods speak to many in different ways. Violence only becomes present when violence has been offended. If one of their own turned to a "white man's God" then they would be skeptical at first, but come to accept this as a new attribute of their brother. Some even include Christianity as another way that the Gods speak to us.

Yeah... browse through those. This is what I was brought up on. xD

We didn't even get witty comics and attempts to persuade us to be Christian. I grew up in a near military level christian school that offered no reasons behind why we should believe, but instead simply said that you must believe or leave. They even made us sign a document at the beginning of each year saying we agreed to pledge our faith to their teachings of god and act according to all their beliefs, rules, and guidelines both on school grounds and in our private lives.

I got 5 detentions while in high school. One for reading the divinci code, one for being caught with an r rated movie in my car (I'd meant to drop it off at the rental store on my way to school, forgot it, and left it laying in plain sight on my back seat. The confiscated it and I got hit with almost 2 weeks worth of late fees while waiting for them to give it back so I could return it. My family finally had to have our lawyers threaten them with theft charges to get it back) another time for having a henna tattoo (that only was visible because some girl decided she needed to tuck my tag in on my shirt for me and she noticed it between my shoulder blades and went running to the homeroom teacher.) Once for swearing on my Xanga and someone from the school seeing it. And I think the fifth was something mild, like not having a hall pass when I went from the year book room to the bathroom.

But I was flat out suspended for 3 days the time I got into a religious debate with a teacher, after school. Not even questioning the faith, just asking questions because I genuinely wanted to know the answers. Chiefly, why put the tree in the garden in the first place if god didn't want us to fail.

Daaaaaaaayum. My childhood looks like a blessing.

I think its amazing how often the militant Christian education is used, despite how often people go against it... often because of the militant teachings.

A lot of my friends who were Christian when I was growing up are still Christian. We used a significantly lighter touch in the Methodist church. The reasons that I got out were because I felt like I was only Christian in name and felt like if I am going to call myself anything I should be able to own up to it... and because there was a heated debate over homosexuality and it pissed me off. >____>

Sorry I didn't answer sooner. Had to head home. Funny part about how I grew up is that my family wasn't even religios. They seemed to have the mind set of "sending her here will make her a good kid even if this place drove her aunt to teen drinking and getting pregnant at 15" (my grandparents were the ones who sent me there, and their own daughter had already been kicked out after getting pregnant to one of the guys there) so it wasn't even like my home life synced up with the school principles.

Also just to let everyone know, my husband screwed me out of sleep today by "forgetting" he worked when he told me he was off, so I had to bargain away a few hours of my shift tonight for sake of getting sleep, so I won't be on till 2 am my time.

Eeeew.... on both accounts.

Unfortunately, today is a holiday and that means that I work. u_u

Also, I seem to be bringing the jesusfreaks out of the woodwork: http://www.menewsha.com/forum/commun...esbians-2.html

Scroll down until you get to Love4Dreams' post. I nearly had a fit. >_>

Why do people seem to have problems with homosexuality?

There are several theories on that.

One is because their pastor tells them so. That seems like an anti-christian statement, but its the same with any religious view that sees homosexuality as morally wrong. The basis of it being wrong is that woman was created for man, not for other women and men not for other men. Many sects see sex for any reason other than for procreation as going against God's order of "go forth and be fruitful." Since same-sex relationships cannot produce children, it is therefore going against God's orders and falling prey to lust.

Another is that people are intimidated by the idea of there being more than one option. Because of the religious stigma, people see it as sinning regardless of the dynamics of the relationship. So if they see that there are more options than just marrying the opposite sex, it becomes a risk for them to be influenced, or so they feel. It wigs people out, but intrigues them in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable.

One of the arguments is "if we allow same-sex marriage, then what's to stop us from allowing group marriages... or to stop someone from marrying their dog? Homosexuality is wrong for the same reasons that incest is wrong." All statements untrue and not following any sort of logic. I personally have no problem with polygamy, as long as three or more people can maintain a healthy relationship. Two can sometimes be too much. The reason we don't allow incest is because of the genetic defects that can come from their progeny. That's why its one of the few universal taboos. And the reason we can't have someone marry their dog is because a dog cannot sign a legal contract.

Furthermore, there is the stigma about pedophilia, wherein people fear that allowing same-sex couples to marry would be a gateway to pedophiles adopting children for... less than kosher reasons. But I do believe that happens without equal marriage rights, so moot point.

A lot of it does stem out of religion, but mostly the reason why religious folks don't like it is because it wigs them out.