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#101
Old 08-12-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kah Hilzin-Ec View Post
The other day in class, a guy was calling a girl some name she didn't like. It went to the point she hit him, and he threatened to hit her [with my book >.>] if she ever hit him again. She said: "You're going to hit a GIRL?!" and he replied: "I don't see why you can hit me but I shouldn't hit you just because you're of the opposite gender".
So, my question is:
Hitting the women - Uber Wrong or Sexist Excuse?
Is it "acceptable" to let a man hit a man, a woman slap a woman, a woman slap a man, but a man shouldn't hit a woman? Is this because woman are "biologically weaker" than men, or is it just a Double Standard?
Me? I think saying a man can't hit a woman just because is kind of an insult to females, as if being a girl means you have a discapacity. Hell, hitting is wrong in the first place anyways! xP

PS: They stopped arguing after that. The guy decided it would be better to hit me with my book instead, and then he hit himself to prove it didn't hurt anyway. Happy Ending x_x
I do think it is a double standard. I like to think of myself as a feminist. I think that, as a person in general, if you're going to hit a person, you should be prepared to have them hit you back. For there to be equality in the situation, the moral of the lesson should be: "Don't hit someone who will kcik your ass". That goes for both. If a woman hits a man who will wipe the floor with her, maybe she should rethink her tactics here, kick him in the groin and run instead ;)
I think a man who is thinking about hitting a woman who will wipe the floor with him may want to hit the gym :lol: Just kidding, the same rule above applies (and yes, if you kick a girl in her pubic bone, it will hurt like a bitch, I know)
Also? I love the ending to your story.

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#102
Old 08-12-2009, 01:47 PM

You're right...
I don't think hitting others is a good way to end a discussion (or start one)
It's childish, and men shouldn't hit women as well as women shouldn't hit men and so on... Then we're back in the stone age O.o
The only way hitting people is okay is in self defense, and that's not when people call you names...

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#103
Old 08-12-2009, 03:34 PM


i have been told over and over again, "if someone hits you, you better hit them back twice as hard, make them think twice." i am tired of everyone calling girls weak. i used to practice tae kwon do, and the strongest student was a girl. fourth degree black belt, and i was first degree. everyone is equal, weather your a guy, girl, black, white, heck, if your an alien, i view you as equal. oh, and you people saying its childish. if someone knocks your teeth out, are you just gonna sit there and let them keep on beating you up? you dont go and hurt someone because you want to (that, my friend, would be childish), you do it for protection and self defence.
however, if you just hit someone else out of the blue, expect some recoil.

my grandma always said that your only as weak as you think you are.

Chivalry is DEAD people. get over it...


@ chardfoxfire:: it is the fact that they think differently in the first place is what makes them equal. every human being is different in some way, and that makes them unequal? sure, someone may be better at sports then someone else, but that person who was better at sports is worse at science than the person who was worse at sports. its our differences that make us equal, not our simmilaritys.

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#104
Old 08-14-2009, 07:43 AM

I think the whole don't hit girls thing is patently ridiculous. Maybe, back in the days where hitting wasn't so rampant, it held water. These days, girls hide behind it! Frankly, I've always thought that if you hit, you'd better be prepared to be knocked on your a...tail. I really don't care which gender you are. If you hit me, I'm going to lay you out, it's that simple. I've taught my kids not to hit unless they're being physically attacked, but for my daughter, I added that she'd better NEVER hit a guy, then start screaming about not hitting girls.
And, just to clarify, I think everybody needs to keep their dang flabbin hands to themselves.

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#105
Old 08-14-2009, 04:16 PM

Hitting anyone is just wrong, man or woman, boy or girl, adult or child. We are taught as children that hitting is a no-no. It does not become okay as we grow into adulthood. The girl was wrong in the first place to hit and I applaud the boy for not hitting back. Just because you are a girl and supposedly of the weaker sex should not give you any protections. I know far too many women to count, that are physically stronger then the men they are with.

Violence begets violence and is wrong whether it is girl on guy, guy on girl, girl on girl or guy on guy. If this girl wants to be equal in the eyes of the world then she should understand that many people would have struck back...believing fair is fair.

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#106
Old 08-15-2009, 12:57 AM

I think men shouldn't hit woman and woman shouldn't hit men to be mean but if it is a playful hit then that is so sweet.:cool:

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#107
Old 08-15-2009, 05:25 AM

It's not okay for ither gender to hit one another.

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#108
Old 08-15-2009, 06:38 AM

Men are generally stronger than women.
If a man hit me, I would assume hes lame and weak.
Heck, hes not even a man then.
Hitting, like the 1st post states, is wrong in the first place.
So I dont give it much thought since I doubt anyone will ever find a reason to hit me.

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#109
Old 08-15-2009, 08:14 PM

Depending on what he called her, I think she had a right to hit him. And if that's the case then he shouldn't hit her back. He hurt her verbally so she decided to hurt him physically. Call me childish, but he started it.

As for if men should be allowed to hit women... it just depends. I don't think anyone, man or woman, should abuse anyone else. But... if a woman is getting all hormonal, is caught cheating, starts acting/saying something profanely, attacks someone, etc... than I think it'd be OK to hit/slap them. I think that goes for both women and men.

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#110
Old 08-24-2009, 10:10 PM

I actually think it's a double standard.
Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against spousal abuse, and attacking someone of the opposite sex.
But playfully, I'll joke and hit my guy friends (not hard) and honestly I'd be insulted if they didn't hit me back.
I'm with Agent HEY-LEE, sometimes you need someone to slap you back to reality.

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#111
Old 08-24-2009, 10:37 PM

if the guy's a perv or something, then i would hit him. like, slap him or something. yup, he did start it! or if somebody is cheating on you. or self defense! i could think of a bunch of ways it would be justified. but that's just me.

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#112
Old 08-24-2009, 10:55 PM

I don't believe you should hit anyone unless if it's self defense.

Play hitting is alright, but it can only go so far. When someone asks you to stop, then stop. There's no need to continue it.

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#113
Old 08-24-2009, 11:29 PM

The thing is, the average female is not as strong as a guy. I'm not saying there aren't girls who can kick a guy's ass, but it's true that biologically, it's how we're built. A girl can't do much damage to a guy with their slaps, whereas if a guy put his heart into it, he could really hurt her. It's all about common sense. Do you really wanna hit a girl half a foot and fifty pounds lighter than you? With power, you need to exercise control. Now, if it's the girl who's that much stronger than the guy, the same should apply.

There's a reason the phrase, "Pick on someone your own size," exists.

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#114
Old 08-27-2009, 09:43 PM

I dont think men should get in fist fights with women, or that they should regularly hit a woman. But if a woman hits a man then she should get slapped. But I think that should only be a one time thing. Some women encourage men to hit them cause they are trouble makers and want to use it against a man for pity or blackmail, whatever the reason. So it is such a touchy subject that its hard to say what should or should not happen. I dont think that women should hit men or other women and I dont think that men should hit other men or women. Abuse is bad all the way around. The only time it should happen is if its the last resort in self defense.

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#115
Old 09-02-2009, 11:21 PM

It's absolutely wrong to hit a girl. No matter what the case is.

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#116
Old 09-03-2009, 12:34 AM

Wrong to hit a girl is a good thing for a boy to remember but hey lets face it I have seen some mean hateful women out there. I saw my mother hit my father with a frying pan one time. I never saw my father abuse my mother by beating on her but I have seen him defend himself by grabbing her and pushing her away or down.
I think a man has a right to defend himself to the extent that he can make her stop or get away even if it means b---h slapping her.

If a woman is man enough to hit a man she should expect the same back.

But if he is not defending himself then, no I dont think a man should hit a woman.

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#117
Old 09-03-2009, 11:38 AM

Violence is not acceptable in any case at all. Where I come from, you get in jail if you beat up others :/

Which I personally think is very fair.

I might be more controlled by my feelings on this subject though, since I was physically abused for 5 months. By a girl who was physically abused all her life. Which makes me say, there's never a good reason for violence, never ever....

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#118
Old 09-03-2009, 10:50 PM

I'm really against men beating women. But if she instigates it and hits him first then I don't think it's fair that he can't strike her back.

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#119
Old 09-03-2009, 11:09 PM

How about no one hit anyone, period? And saying so-and-so hit you first is a juvenile excuse to be violent. Self-defense is one thing, but assaulting someone because they did it to you first is incredibly childish.

As far as the gender issue goes, not hitting a woman is sexist -- toward women. Men have been taught not to hit women for a variety of reasons: women are too weak and can't fight back; women aren't strong enough to do any real damage anyway; women aren't smart enough to understand the consequences of their actions and shouldn't be held accountable for starting a fight. In case you haven't noticed yet, all these excuses are based on the idea of women being less than men. These same excuses have been used to justify various other forms of discrimination toward women, such as us not being "smart enough" to vote intelligently, or "strong enough" to work and thus have financial freedom from often abusive husbands. If we allow it in this instance, we are in grave danger of slipping back to allowing it in all instances.

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#120
Old 09-03-2009, 11:21 PM

I dont think either gender hitting each other is right. He has a point, why should she be able to cause him physical harm if he can not retaliate? how is he ment to defend himself? what if she came at him with a weapon?

Just stop beating the cr*p out of each other for no reason and we wouldn't have so many problems in this world... you took English at school didn't you? USE YOUR WORDS! >_> preferably socially acceptable, non derogatory words... >_>

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#121
Old 09-04-2009, 07:04 PM

Depends on the situation.
If a man is defending himself, cause the bitch wont stop attacking him, then sure, punch her out to get her to stop.
But if it's just to PROVE HES A MAN AND HE DONT TAKE SHIT FROM NO ONE, then he's just an asshole and a future wife beater.

But yeah, I think men should refrain from hitting women.
Women are just physically weaker than men, it's really not fair.
If a strong man beat the shit out of a weak guy, he'd be looked at as a douche.
So why not for beating a woman?
True there are women or are strong and can punch out a man with ease.
But not every women has that advantage.

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#122
Old 09-13-2009, 02:24 PM

They should just not hit each other in the first place.
However of course in reality it isn't that easy. Oftentimes you can get a situation where there is some crazy woman who just won't stop bickering or hitting you no matter how much you tell them not to. Some people, regardless of gender will only listen if they are physically hurt. No words will stop them.
Of course first option is to talk it through. Then attempt refrain. Then hit.
The same thing the police do pretty much.

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#123
Old 09-13-2009, 10:18 PM

If a girl can throw a punch she should be able to take a punch
now if he just hits her to just show he "the man" then no its wrong to hit the girl

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#124
Old 09-14-2009, 03:21 AM

Personally (and this is from a woman's view, mind you!) I think that it is FULLY justified for a man to hit a woman... IF SHE PROVOKES IT.
That is my policy on ALL fighting. If one person provokes you, will not let you leave, or escape in a peaceful way, then you have EVERY RIGHT to defend yourself, irregardless of gender, age, or disabilities.

In training or sparring, everything goes. No one should pull punches, and all should fight to the best of their ability (but without trying to severely hurt each other).
If a woman expects preferential treatment in sparring, or other contact events... she needs to find a different hobby. Really.
All my friends who are female and engage in sparring, whether with wooden swords or barehanded, all go full-out, encourage male opponents to do so, because they want a fair match, and do not whine when they are beaten.

I think this whole "be gentle to me because I am a woman" is rediculous.
As someone else mentioned, girls fight worse than guys.

I remember in middle school... This one girl came after me, took out her hoop earrings first (I didn't have pierced ears yet) and grabbed me by the hair. My left hand on her shoulder, pushing her away, then one, two, three punches to the face made her let go, and she started screaming, "You don't fight fair!" I was, by then, in a defensive pose, ready to go, and said, "No. I fight for real, B***h." Which obviously made her mad... I was able to repel her effortlessly then, because she no longer had my hair...

Sorry, had a bit of nostalgia there. :sweat:

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#125
Old 09-14-2009, 07:55 PM

hitting women being a no no was started when women all wore corsets and walked around with umbrellas talking about their poodles and the likes. modern women have taken an intrest in many sports that before were considered mens sports. boxing, martial arts, football. it's really based on chivalry though i think. i don't think that it's right to punch a woman. i do think that some women tend to go a bit extreme with the swinging... but it's generally a couple plants on their butt won't fix. by all means don't let your eyes get clawed out, go ahead and set her down.. but a hand making contact... not too cool to me.

 



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